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Debby
Citizen
Username: Debby
Post Number: 2291
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:23 pm: | 
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The rationale here is that if he were put to death, he would become a martyr and that could inflame hostilities among Muslim extremist groups.
I feel so safe |
Darryl Strawberry
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7135
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:27 pm: |
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The judge pretty much thought the guy was a little retarted. Chances are so did the jury. |
Swearengen
Citizen
Username: Swearengen
Post Number: 29
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:42 pm: |
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Let's see how long the jerkface murderous diaper-eater lasts in the pen. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11393
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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Probably a long time. He will end up in someplace like Marion, in other words a supermax prison, where he will spend 23 hours a day in an 8 x 5 ( a little bigger than a standard sheet of plywood) with a solitary hour outside for exercise, walking around in what best can be viewed as a dog pen. Once a week he he will get a shower and a shave.
I think he wanted to be a player in the terrorism game. He wasn't. He was a wannabe. To have offered him martyrhood would have been a shame.
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Debby
Citizen
Username: Debby
Post Number: 2292
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 6:51 pm: |
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What really disturbs me is the prospect that he'll have access to other people and infect them with his hatred. |
Peter J. Watts
Citizen
Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 22
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 7:05 pm: |
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"America you lost!" Moussaoui shouted as he left the courtroom after hearing the verdict. He clapped his hands and shouted, "I won!"
I love his style. I'm gonna miss that guy. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 240
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 7:42 pm: |
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Does he have soap-on-a-rope?
Could need it.
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sylvester the investor
Citizen
Username: Mummish
Post Number: 124
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 9:32 pm: |
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obviously the jury was comprised of a bunch of liberal (*&&&^%%)**&^^%*%*, just like 97% of this town. Glad to see we are so compasionate and that we feel it is better for someone who is responsible for the murder of 3000 innocent americans to go to jail than to be put to death. What do the rest of you left wing freaks have to say about this. I hope you all go to hell. This is a disgrace. Shame on you all.
We can only pray that he gets his due when he gets to prison. Hopefully he is raped for years, then maybe they pull out his finger and toe nails, and then maybe, just maybe they will put him out of his misery.
If this is forshadowing of what will happen if a dem gets back into the white house......the muslim world is going to have a field day (or should I say lifetime) with us.
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yabbadabbadoo
Citizen
Username: Yabbadabbadoo
Post Number: 349
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 10:00 pm: |
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Sylvester,
You need help.
FF |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 628
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 10:06 pm: |
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(*&&&^%%)**&^^%*%*
What is this, Advanced Calculus? |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 9348
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
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Econometrics, I think. |
Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5359
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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Okay, now the right wing is going to start complaining about the jury system?
That's one of our oldest institutions - long before we had presidents, or congresses, or even states, we had juries composed of ordinary citizens. It's a gift from English Common Law, and I don't think it's right for the right-wingers to start bad-mouthing it.
Basically, the jury said to Moussaoui: "No martyrdom for you!"
Works for me. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4854
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 11:33 pm: |
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they complain about judges
they complain about juries
but whatever big poppa in the white house does is cool.
what do you call a country where the chief executive makes the rules and is always right? |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 247
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 11:44 pm: |
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I would room him with Charlie Manson. |
Peter J. Watts
Citizen
Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 23
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 1:06 am: |
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Sylvester, your post was beyond frightening. Fingers and toenails? I agree with the previous poster, you need help.
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tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4296
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 6:09 am: |
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And if we hadn't executed Timothy McVeigh, he could have shared a cell with Moussaoui. I expect one or the other would be demanding execution before too long. |
3ringale
Citizen
Username: Threeringale
Post Number: 179
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 7:25 am: |
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I think the jury did the right thing. The death penalty is not always needed. I would leave his fingernails and toenails alone, though. But I wouldn't mind piping 16 hours of tv and talk radio into his cell every day. That would be true torture.
Cheers |
Darryl Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7137
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 7:40 am: |
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Well actually the Jury did nothing..
This is a case of a jury NOT being able to unanimously decide a sentence. That's what happened.
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Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 972
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 8:53 am: |
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How long until Americans overseas are kidnapped and the demand is - you guessed it a prisoner swap. Moussaoui for the Henderson family. That will be interesting. Nohero, of course some will complain about the jury system. This happens after just about every trial from one side or the other. It's kind of like libs complaining about the electoral college.
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GOP Man
Citizen
Username: Headsup
Post Number: 362
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 8:57 am: |
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of course this is the fault of the libs. Everyone knows that northern Virginia is a hotbed of liberalism. also who is it that doesn't have the juice to get out of jury duty? welfare queens and retirees, two of the biggest liberal constituencies. we Republicans are off running our businesses and contributing to the economy. we don't serve on juries. when juries make such moronic decisions, you can be sure libs are at the bottom of it. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1263
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:02 am: |
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SOutherner your post is irrelevant. We do not have prisoner exchanges with terrorists, kidnappers or anyone else. In fact your point is foolish because if Mousaoui had been given the death penalty you could have just as easily raised the issue that the fictional Henderson family would now be kidnapped and murdered in retaliation.
It makes no sense. Justice is served, a minor player is taken out of the game never to be heard from again.
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tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4297
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:03 am: |
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Southerner,
Don't act like negotiating with terrorists is a Democratic thing. We all do it.
In fact, the negotiation with terrorists should go something like this:
President: We agree to your demands.
Terrorist: Good.
President: Please provide GPS coordinates so we can send money and return hostages.
Terrorist: OK
Later that day, 50 JDAMs accidentally obliterate that GPS point. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 974
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:20 am: |
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tjohn,
Where did you get the "Democratic thing" from. My post was pretty nonpartisan (for a change). I never said a Repub or Dem admin would negotiate. I don't think either would. But don't you think some cells will try this strategy since the guy is alive? They have been doing it in Iraq for years. Hoops, I understand your point. Don't worry, Americans will be murdered by terrorists in the future and Moussaoui will still be alive. Listen, the sentence doesn't bother me whether it was life or death. I'm just looking at the repurcussions. There will be repercussions either way the jury went. All I'm saying is don't be shocked when Americans show up on video as trade bait for him. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1266
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:25 am: |
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Fair enough. There are ramifications to every action. In the next administration hopefully we can get back to actually hunting terrorists and away from blowing up sovereign states. |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4298
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:39 am: |
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Southerner,
Fair enough. Until we start negotiating hostage releases with JDAMs, we can expect this practice to continue. Heck, even Israel negotiates prisoner swaps. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 976
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:46 am: |
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Hoops,
I kind of like you. You are me on the other side of the fence. You believe in your opinion and aren't shy in expressing it. I have no problem with that. At least you don't flap in the wind like so many do depending on the issue. Of course, I think you are totally wrong on everything politics but I enjoy the banter. And you seem to have the proper perspective of this board. Some libs take it way to personal and respond like my posts or any posts really matter. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1267
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:52 am: |
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To know me is to like me. Or something like that.
Also knowing that you have the opposite side on 'everything politics' reaffirms my positions, so thankyou.
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4855
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:57 am: |
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It's been public knowledge that he's been in U.S. custody for close to five years now. Is there any reason why a terrorist group might have been saying, "well now that he's convicted we can finally kidnap the Hendersons and put our nefarious scheme into action! Curse the infidel justice system that made us wait so long!"?
Not to mention the fact that the death penalty always take years to, um, execute, what with mandatory appeals and other procedural matters. |
Peter J. Watts
Citizen
Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 24
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 10:52 am: |
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No terrorist organization cares about Moussaoui. No one's going to be kidnapping Americans for his release. As stated, he's an Al-Qaida wannabe. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1844
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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I think death would have been the easy way out. I suspect the jury had an evil side to them and wanted to seem him tortured to his last. Now there is a chance he will get anally raped, beaten up and go insane waiting for himself to die of old age. |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1723
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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Southernor,
No prisoner swaps in the future. You need not worry. I will gladly wager that Moussaoui will not be used as barter before his death.
Arms for hostages? Well that's another thing entirely... |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5585
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 11:10 am: |
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Denying martyrdom was not cited as a compelling reason to let this guy off by the jury. It had more to do with racism, his dad was abusive, a tough childhood, etc. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 255
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 11:16 am: |
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Alleygater-
"anally raped"? And I haven't even had my 2nd cup of coffee yet, so thanks so much for the un-desired mind picture wake-up. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1847
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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You're welcome? I think?
So when you think of men going to jail you don't think of anal rapage? |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 978
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |
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tom,
Good point. I wish I could be there when Mouss is being laughed at by guys like the Unibomber. Now there was a guy with a plan who followed through. Both Mouss and Reid were ultimate failures and will be ridiculed by other inmates. And if many of you think he will be touched in Super Max by other prisoners you are mistaken. He will live to be an old man unless he uses his own hand to see the virgins.
Hoops,
May the best philosophy prevail. I have faith in the American people and won't whine if you guys prevail. But I don't think you will. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 262
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 3:32 pm: |
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Alleygater-
Uh.... no. I don't really have much reason to think about prison. I would prefer to fantasize about supermodels, frankly. BTW does Heidi Klum post here? |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1857
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 4:12 pm: |
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He will live to be an old man unless he uses his own hand to see the virgins.
When you say use his own hands to see virgins, are we talking about killing himself or choking the chicken? |
eliz
Supporter
Username: Eliz
Post Number: 1443
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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He's going to be in 23 hour/day solitary confinement - if it were me I would rather have the death penalty so I am more than happy with the sentence. I think solitary confinement for the rest of his life is the worst form of punishment - he'll lose whatever little is left of his whacked out mind. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 288
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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Well on the virgin thing, it depends on whether they have imposed strict inventory control. Figure 72 per suicide bomber/nut job. Poor old Zack may find they have run out of supplies, hence he has to say alive and date Bubba in the next cell. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1756
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 4, 2006 - 9:18 pm: |
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Quote:...the Unibomber. Now there was a guy with a plan who followed through.
Are you f*cking kidding me? I would've pegged you for more an Eric Robert Rudolph.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 329
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 4:27 pm: |
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Good point made today by commentator:
Fact that Zacki is alive allows his fellow terrorists the opportunity to take hostages and attempt to free him.
Comments? |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4861
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 7:39 pm: |
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already commented, see above |
Brett Weir
Citizen
Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1519
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 7, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Where there is life, there is hope. He should have had all hope extinguished... |
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