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Alleygater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1876 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |
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And here is why this argument by the Strawman is beyond idiotic (or imbecilic if it will make the good Doctor happy.) But some would argue that all of his posts are idiotic! |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 215 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:04 pm: |
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Dick Cheney stood in a field, with a gun and a few beers in him and shot and missed his intendet target a duck (or whatever) but nailed the lawyer dead pan in the face and chest. It was stated that the lawyer acted inappropriately for sneaking up on the Vice!? What I wanna know is where the heck was the secret service if a person with a gun was able to sneak up on the Vice. Somebody should have yelled "DUCK LAWYER". Darryl - how come somebody with your handle is ripping a Kennedy? As far as role models go your handle was one of the worst for kids. |
   
Aquaman
Supporter Username: Aquaman
Post Number: 895 Registered: 8-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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Bajou, When someone is about to shoot a lawyer, no one ever yells "duck". Thankey |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1609 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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Seems like the Bush clan are running neck & neck with the Kennedy's. Bush Nephew Nabbed Jeb's youngest son in Texas booze, resisting arrest bust
SEPTEMBER 16--One of President George W. Bush's nephews--the youngest son of Florida Governor Jeb Bush--was arrested early today and charged with public drunkenness and resisting arrest. John Ellis Bush, 21, was nabbed at 2:30 AM by Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission agents in Austin (Jeb Jr.'s street corner arrest came in one of the capital's popular bar districts). According to the below arrest warrant, filed with the Travis County Municipal Court, an intoxicated Bush, "continually pushed against this officer and struggled as I attempted to handcuff him." After about four hours in custody, Bush was released on $2500 bond for the resisting count (the intox charge was covered by a personal recognizance bond). This is the second time young Jeb--pictured in mug shot at right--has landed on a police blotter. In October 2000, Jeb, then 16, and a girlfriend were discovered naked from the waist down in a Jeep Cherokee parked at a Tallahassee mall. Jebby's siblings, George and Noelle, have also had well-publicized run-ins with the law. Hey Straw, Didn't you say Jeb is one of your best buddies! Could ya tell him to control the kiddies!
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Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7164 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:32 pm: |
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Again, Not an elected official. It's kind of like when Ferraro's son was busted on coke charges. I certainly do not consider that situation as horrid as what we've seen with Patrick Kennedy because Ted's son has been elected to lead. Instead he's taking drugs, or drinking or both and driving. another dumbocrat. |
   
Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1610 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:43 pm: |
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So again… Cheney? What's his excuse for the cover-up straw? Waited over 24 hours before reporting the SHOOTING of an elderly man. I guess 24 hours gives him enough time to SOBER-UP! BTW Cheney didn't have a legal license for his hunting excursion. oh yeh, isn't he second in command behind the prez? another repugoramous. |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 228 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 1:47 pm: |
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Damm, Straw, must be a good life if you have time and connections to get your handle changed so quickly... Hmm lets see ... would that be you, a supporter, abusing your connections to get things done your way and at your speed. Hun, you should run for office... |
   
joel dranove
Citizen Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 451 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:07 pm: |
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doltish, ludicrous, flippant, balmy, nit-wit, dim-wit, puerile.... Next! jd |
   
joel dranove
Citizen Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 452 Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:10 pm: |
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He gets limited immunity from prosecution if he was going to or from a vote. So, he was not so drunk as to forgot the excuse. What would Mary Jo Kopechne say, if she hadn't been drowned by the schizoid's father 37 years ago? "At least he was alone." jd |
   
themp
Supporter Username: Themp
Post Number: 2859 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:17 pm: |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/08/business/08ambien.html?ex=1146974400&en=cc6328 ea6d2bbd20&ei=5070 Who knows? It sounds like he came from his house. I don't think he would say that if he knew he had been seen at a bar. Maybe he is telling the truth, or a slightly whitewashed version of it. It seems like there is evidence here that can be looked at. There is probably a report be Capital Police, right?
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tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4859 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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straw, if you want to tar all the kennedys because of the actions (or alleged actions) of one of them, then we get to tar all the Bushes. Fair? The fact that Pat Kennedy is elected doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the kennedys as you lump them together, so the fact that the daughters or nephews are not elected doesn't matter either. Cheney's elected, and he shot someone after drinking. Unless you're going to call for his resignation too, it's time to put a lid on it. 'cause otherwise all you're saying is, he should resign because he's a democrat. |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1288 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:47 pm: |
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tom - I wish I said that. |
   
themp
Supporter Username: Themp
Post Number: 2860 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 2:49 pm: |
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Capitol Police. |
   
FlyingSpaghettiMonst
Citizen Username: Noodlyappendage
Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 3:13 pm: |
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Rep. Patrick Kennedy is checking himself into a rehabilitation unit, CNN learns. |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 240 Registered: 2-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 3:18 pm: |
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What happened with Goss by the way? Porter Goss resigns as CIA chief: "This is a devastating blow, the importance of which really cannot be overestimated," Barr told CNN. "It indicates again a continuing downward slide in the intelligence capabilities of our government, it indicates again the disorganization on the part of our intelligence agencies at a time when we can ill afford to see that happen." |
   
Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7165 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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Drug rehab..very sad day for Democrats. You people sure know how to pick em. At least Kennedy didn't announce he was gay and resign in order to avoid potential prosecution. |
   
themp
Supporter Username: Themp
Post Number: 2863 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 4:22 pm: |
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That was like a glass of water in the desert for republicans. Now it's gone. Back to crawling painfully from scandal to disgraceful failure to plummeting poll numbers toward November. |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1293 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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Quote:At least Kennedy didn't announce he was gay and resign in order to avoid potential prosecution.
That sentence is in the running for strangest Straw post of the year.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 303 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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Listen- The drunken Bush twins are cute. Patrick Kennedy is not. On the bright side he wasn't driving over any bridges with young female campaign workers. Plus the UAW will certainly support him in the future. He was driving an American car. |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 304 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 5:26 pm: |
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One more thing, he doesn't have that Kennedy overbite thing going on. |
   
Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7167 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 5:36 pm: |
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For those like Hoops who missed the punch line...It was a shot at McGreevey, another successful democrat. |
   
Alleygater
Citizen Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1887 Registered: 10-2004
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 5:57 pm: |
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I don't get it, BOTH BUSH AND CHENEY have been CONVICTED of DUI felonies. What is this thread about? Why not wank over top a saltine? That would be a better use of your time. |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 314 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 9:46 pm: |
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Alley, "wank over top a saltine"? I like that one. is that copywrited or trademarked?
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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Maybe after rehab Patrick can be the front man for the "Dead Kennedys" (are they still around?) Ps - This post can be explained by the fact I am home tonight and incredibly bored. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4860 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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the obvious facts are that 1) straw is running his double-standard in overdrive on this one, and; 2) Anything ... anything!!!! to distract from the Republican scandals overrunning Washington. Goss resigns, under the cloud of attending parties full of kickbacks and prostitutes. Hotel records from Duke Cunningham's parties are subpoenaed. Kathryn Harris will either be in the Senate or an institution by January (the smart money is on the institution). Blackwell and his minions in Ohio have managed to "lose" hundreds of thousands of votes from the recent primary. A top Bush judicial candidate failed to recuse himself from corporate lawsuits involving companies he held stock in (guess which side he ruled in favor of). The Republican Majority Leader drops out of the race while under indictment for money laundering. One Republican senator is probably going to end up in jail. Rush Limbaugh breaks narcotics laws. Rumsfeld is caught in a flat-footed lie in a press conference, saying "I never said that," but it had been caught on tape. The President has made it clear that he has no intention of obeying or enforcing some 250 laws, because he don't need no stinkin' laws. But a Kennedy drove up over a curb. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5589 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 5, 2006 - 11:30 pm: |
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Look, captains of damage control. There's a reason why people are thinking 'a pox on both their houses." Sure Democrats win in a generic vote, but not enough to break the blue/red majorities inherent to the districts that are in play. It's called William Jefferson, who's most assuredly going to be indicted on bribery charges. It's Mollohan's sudden surge of wealth for all the nifty non-profits that employ his close associates that he's funding with federal dollars. It's about the Abramoff directed Indian contributions to people like the Senate Minority Leader who is suddenly picking one tribe against another based on contributions by the tribes involved, along with the returned 'legit' contributions from tribes by Democrats who are returning money that's supposedly clean. Straw doesn't have to bring up the latest generation of sorry Kennedys to counter the "Culture of Corruption" charges by Pelosi. You guys are doing such a bang-up job all by yourselves that the media can't avoid pointing out your problems. You're left pointing fingers while your thumb is stuck up your . If you want to win, best you get an idea. Parading your bench and trying to win on personality and virtue is a loser. |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11427 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 6:15 am: |
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Kennedy has announced he has a a relapse in his prescprition drug problem and is entering rehab at the Mayo Clinic, where he went over Congress' Christmas break. If this disqualifies him for Congress is an open question. Personally, I think it should be decided by Mr. Kennedy and the voters of Rhode Island. |
   
Brett Weir
Citizen Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 1518 Registered: 4-2004

| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 4:42 pm: |
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie- The Bush files are a must read, for sure. Bob K.- I don't know if Mr. Kennedy should decide his political future alone, but I agree that the voters who put him in Congress should have the final say; they always do. |
   
Gregor Samsa
Citizen Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 509 Registered: 11-2002

| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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How come Republicans aren't ever allowed to use the "Double Standard" argument? You guys have racked up nearly 100 posts with your whining. |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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Where are those Dems who wanted Rush in prison? Why aren't they calling for Kennedy's head? Is it because they are no better than we are? I love this. Another Kennedy in rehab and Rush is still going strong making the libs crazy. This is going to be fun watching the Dems lose all their momentum. They cried wolf about 3 years too early. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4865 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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I doubt there were many liberals calling for Rush to be imprisoned. You see, we tend to be a bit more compassionate (well actually a whole lot more compassionate) with peoples' personal weaknesses and failings, especially when the only victim of one's crime is one's self. It's the conservatives who cry for longer and longer prison terms for smaller and smaller quantities, and Rush was at the front of the line calling for harsh punishment for people who committed crimes just like his. |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1007 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Saturday, May 6, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Have you read the other thread. I missed your post asking for compassion for Rush. I am a very compassionate neo-con, especially when the victim is a victim of himself. That is why I feel really, really bad for you Democrats. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4867 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 7, 2006 - 8:39 am: |
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The question wasn't about who wrote posts showing compassion; it was about who called, or didn't call, for a harsh prison sentence. Just because I'm empathetic enough to not call down the wrath of the federal government on him doesn't mean I have to sob online over his problems. Anyway, don't get bogged down about the actions of any one of us anonymous posters. |
   
dave23
Citizen Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1736 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 11:55 am: |
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Southerner, Was Kennedy doctor-shopping, too? Personally, I don't think anyone should go to prison for drug abuse, but there is always a certain pleasure in seeing hot-air balloons like Rush hoisted on the their own petard. |
   
Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7175 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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Here's the big difference between Rush and Kennedy. Rush's legal problems have been a surprise. Kennedy's problems are expected. Remember, Republicans have never elected Rush. Dems on the other hand elected this druggie.
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Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1615 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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But they elected Cheney eh? Shooting of a senior citizen after boozing. And CHENEY IS second-in-command. |
   
Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7177 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Bad comparison. Cheney was involved in a hunting accident. Now, if he had been high on drugs when he shot his friend this would be an issue. Kennedy as we know was very high on drugs when he crashed his car.. Cheney's shooting was an accident. Kennedy's was a criminal act.
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Phenixrising
Citizen Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1617 Registered: 9-2004

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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Cheney wasn't high on drugs, he was INTOXICATED! An accident? Why did he wait so long to report it? Enough time for him to sober-up eh? I say, drinking & hunting don't mix, and had the police given him a sobriety test, this WOULD be a crime. |
   
Straw Kennedy
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7182 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 1:33 pm: |
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"he was INTOXICATED!" Cheney weights 220 pounds and he had 1 beer. He was not intoxicated.
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Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1303 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 1:39 pm: |
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"Cheney weights 220 pounds and he had 1 beer. He was not intoxicated." nod nod wink wink |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1024 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 2:48 pm: |
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Listen, I feel your liberal pain. You are just upset that Rush worked the system beautifully. You didn't get your "got him" moment. No perp walk and no advance notice. Once again a conservative holds his cards close to his chest and blindsides everyone. Your real displeasure should be with the DA who worked this deal for Rush. As for Kennedy, par for the course. |
   
dave23
Citizen Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1742 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 3:27 pm: |
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Southerner's right. Rush's addiction was all an elaborate plan to make liberals look foolish, right down to the DeLay-esque mug shot. |
   
tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 4873 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 4:01 pm: |
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I have no problem with Rush getting that kind of deal. I just think every addict ought to get the same chance, and it shouldn't cost anyone millions of dollars in legal fees either. |
   
themp
Supporter Username: Themp
Post Number: 2874 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 4:05 pm: |
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Warning: This scandal expires on May 15th, 2006. Please consider alternate scandals after that date. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 2089 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 4:09 pm: |
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Kennedy is just not very smart. If he was, instead of taking Ambien, he would have been drinking with hookers and defense contractors in a hotel. That would have been an excusable lapse in judgment. |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1027 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Monday, May 8, 2006 - 7:04 pm: |
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DR., If he had been in a hotel this wouldn't have happened! And he probably would have had one hell of time to boot. |