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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1372
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:20 am: | 
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688 |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1363
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:25 am: |
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thanks for posting this foj.
It raises very important questions and while its conclusions I hope are incorrect, there is too much evidence here to ignore it. (yet our media is and so are all the conspiracy naysayers.)
Why didnt norad scramble jets on 911?
Why did the faa destroy the evidence taped by the air traffic controllers.
Why was Able Danger shut down, records destroyed and no information allowed to be given to the FBI?
Why did FBI superiors intentionally shut down investigations into AL Qaeda and the hijackers pre 911?
What is the coincidence(?) that had 3 of the supposedly very passionate radical islamist hijackers including Mohammad Atta on Jack Abramhoffs gambling cruise line 5 days before 911?
Why were whistleblowers within the FBI shut down and shut up?
Did the PNAC take in the planning or intentional oversight of 911?
Is our government at its highest levels already Fascist and can it be reversed?
the video scared me... |
Chris Prenovost
Citizen
Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 946
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:31 am: |
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Conspiracy theories are the intellectualization of the ignorant. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 2039
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:53 am: |
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Actually nothing in the video scared me. What scared me is that there can be this much information and questions surrounding this event and no one in the media is researching any of it. Is the media wholly incapable? Is it completely dominated and suppressed? Now that scares me.
I would also think that this type of evidence would get everyone's interest and that it would cross party lines and everyone would want to know what really happened. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1365
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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Chris - sure they are except when they are true.
There are questions asked here and coincidences brought out that should be questioned.
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Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1375
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 9:43 pm: |
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This is the best movie I have seen on this topic. There is no conjecture, no full metal hat material.
They do not give you holagrams in the air over NYC.
Notice a certain group of MOLers wont even admit they watched the pentagon video. No spin. No, We win elections and you dont. Nutin, hmmmmm. |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3290
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
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Just watched the whole thing. Unfortunately, the production quality is absolutely god-awful, which may hurt the film's acceptance by some viewers. The bit in the middle with clips from "Network" and other movies is a complete waste of time. But, regardless of that, we should no more blindly accept the "facts" in this video than we would accept "facts" from any other source.
That said, I had heard a bunch of this material before from other sources, and plenty of it is backed up by, or taken directly from, some of our most respected news programs and papers.
I hadn't heard before that at least 11 countries warned us aboout an impending attack. And I was not aware of that there were so many specific warnings from people within our own intelligence agencies whose increasingly desperate efforts to investigate the very individuals who apparently hijacked the planes were all snuffed out by their supervisors.
Also, I did not know that Atta and other terrorists were seen partying aboard SunCruze ships just before the attacks. That's just totally wiggy.
Interesting that there were 67 instances of fighters quickly and competently scrambled for such minor issues as lost radio contact and deviations from flight plans in 2001 before the attacks, yet protocols were simply not followed on 9/11.
Bush was told about the situation in New York BEFORE he entered the school. While in the school, he is told "America is under attack." Much has been made of W's apparent disinterest in this, but, as the film asks... where is the Secret Service at that point? The country is under attack, and the Secret Service is not rushing the POTUS to a secure location? WTF?
This is not the same as finding a surprising number of spooky coincidences between Lincoln and Kennedy. This is not the same as finding unnerving patterns of letters in the Bible or Torah. There are just way, WAY too many factors pointing to the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job, and many of the most qualified people in our government and intelligence community apparently think so, too.
Chris (and others), I know you completely reject the theory of government complicity. But I wish you would watch this terribly made but fact-filled video and tell us if you sincerely think that everything in it is either false, coincidental, or irrelevant. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1387
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:53 pm: |
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Atta was partying on Abramoffs ship.. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9433
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:29 am: |
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The Atta/Abramoff connection is very, very odd.
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Jersey_Boy
Citizen
Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 868
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:49 am: |
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I haven't finished watching this, but being on the ship does not equal "knows Abramoff." He had a bunch of ships.
I've been seen in a Trump building, coincidence?
I have a hard time balancing the opinion of this administration as utterly incompetent with the opinion of this administration as a web of complexly coordinated evil geniuses.
They can't be both.
J.B. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 9435
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 9:06 am: |
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Sure they can. Put the buffoon in the Oval office who cannot answer questions because he knows so little while the PNAC crew invades nations, reinterprets the Constitution to mean "police state," drives our debt higher with war expenditures and gets people killed. It's really simple and they've done it before with success (Iran Contra).
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crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 615
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 9:22 am: |
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Anyone read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"? Our government is very adept in creating a certain public perception with something entirely different going on behind the scenes. It's scary and maddening. |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3292
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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I have a hard time balancing the opinion of this administration as utterly incompetent with the opinion of this administration as a web of complexly coordinated evil geniuses.
The way I see it, it makes perfect sense. All their effort and focus and resource expenditure goes to the evil genius stuff, which is why the rest -- you know, running the country -- is going so badly. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1395
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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Even an incompitant gets it right once in a while.
Since these folks are the same folks that were at the center of:
-The Bay of Pigs
-Installed the Shaw in Iran
-Installed Hussien in Iraq
-Watergate
-October surprise
-Hondoran death squads
-Iran Contra
-BCCI
I think that makes the case for the Evil plan. Thats all they have done for the last 40+ years.
I'm sure Perkins book is real good, I havent read it, but have heard Perkins interviewed 3 or 4 times. |
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