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Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7269
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 7:45 am: | 
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We thank every man and woman this holiday weekend who served and gave their life for this wonderful nation of ours.
Be Proud of America, be proud of your troops. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1502
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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Well put Strawberry...will be switching out my spring flag with my american one very shortly this morning... |
llama
Citizen
Username: Llama
Post Number: 784
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 10:24 am: |
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Yes, we must all stand by our country and troops. Sadly, pride in America and Support of our troops has been confused, spun, or implied as support of this war by some. It is to honor those who died whether one believes it was necessary or not. Let us all stand united on memorial day. |
pcs81632
Citizen
Username: Pcs81632
Post Number: 29
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 7:30 pm: |
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Memorial Day and Veteran's Day are hardly enough. And, thank you, barely covers it. Thank you Veterans.
Thanks, Dad. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6391
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:21 pm: |
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Llama...you were sooooo close.
Quote:It is better to deserve honors and not have them than to have them and not to deserve them.
Our soldiers deserve our thanks and their honor |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1956
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Honor is earned. Merely putting on a uniform is not enough.
Nor does putting on a uniform make it honorable to torture prisoners for sport or to gun down women and children in their homes.
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Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3297
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 4:35 pm: |
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"Honor is earned. Merely putting on a uniform is not enough." While I agree with your second sente nce, I disagre with this one. Putting on auniform puts them between you and any enemy their Command in Chief perceives as a threat. It takes honor to willingly put yourself in harm's way to protect others.
A soldier can do something to dishonor themself. But serving is enough, in my book, to earn honor. |
Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 854
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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Second what Rastro said. The uniform is a symbol of the service. |
joel dranove
Citizen
Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 558
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 6:24 pm: |
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Gee, Montagnard, thanks for your original thoughts.
We would never have thought of it.
Revenge doesn't work, but cheap shots don't either.
At least you can write such drivel without fear of the secret police.
And, speaking about secret police, and the secret war, you might want to read this, taken from captainsquarters blog.
This ... Is GJN
As more information comes to light about the terror cell in Toronto smashed by Canadian authorities, the picture emerging is that of a global jihadist network that apparently does not require professionalism or guile to join. As this episode shows, any group of Muslims filled with enough hate for motivation can work through the Internet and a system of mosques to find like-minded terrorist wannabes and the resources to make their dreams come true:
A Canadian counter-terrorism investigation that led to the arrests of 17 people accused of plotting bombings in Ontario is linked to probes in a half-dozen countries, the National Post has learned.
Well before police tactical teams began their sweeps around Toronto on Friday, at least 18 related arrests had already taken place in Canada, the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh.
The six-month RCMP investigation, called Project OSage, is one of several overlapping probes that include an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure and a British probe known as Operation Mazhar. ...
The Toronto busts are linked to arrests that began last August at a Canadian border post near Niagara Falls and continued in October in Sarajevo, London and Scandinavia, and earlier this year in New York and Georgia.
The FBI confirmed Saturday the arrests were related to the recent indictments in the U.S. of Ehsanul Sadequee and Syed Ahmed, who are accused of meeting with extremists in Toronto last March to discuss terrorist training and plots.
This should send chills through Western populations and open eyes as to the nature of the terrorist enemy. Seventeen native-born Canadians, whose families apparently had no connection to radical Islam, managed to plug themselves into a network that spanned six nations and literally went around the world, despite their amateur status. How did this happen? How can a group this large and inexperienced make such inroads into a jihadi network?
In short, the network itself has become so decentralized that it is almost as easy as plugging a laptop into a wide-area network jack, figuratively as well as literally. With the demolition of al-Qaeda's functional leadership, the lack of direction has moved the jihadi movement from the hills of Afghanistan to a system of mosques and imams, preaching their own brand of hatred. Young men looking for a cause or an outlet for their frustrations can easily find these Muslim supremacists. If they can't find them physically, they can certainly find them with just a few minutes on the Internet. This particular group found each other, and then found like-minded prototerrorists in five other nations, including the US.
The above is the bad news. The good news is that the rapid decentralization of Islamic terror has led to a rapid decline in the discipline and quality of the jihadis. The Canadians caught up with this group two years ago and have followed them closely, apparently never tipping their hand to the seventeen bright lights they arrested yesterday and the day before. By monitoring their Internet communications, they not only discovered this cell but also others around the world, all of whom have now been neutralized as threats. The increasing reliance on amateurs like the Toronto 17 makes it more likely that we will continue to root out their partners, wherever they may be.
After a couple of months of agonizing over the efforts made by agencies to monitor communications traffic for terrorist contacts, this should explain why such efforts remain necessary. As long as the West wishes to remain free, it has to find ways to detect and neutralize those threats that, if their plans were ever realized, would push us towards greater restrictions than ever before. We need to demonstrate to the amateurs that they have no percentage in attempting to organize for terrorist attacks. This six-nation effort has made that point.
Thank you New York Times for releasing info about domestic surveillance of phone calls, because you help our enemy in a time of war.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1572
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 6:43 pm: |
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Montagnard,
Must you dwell on the negative actions of the few to sum up the whole? On Memorial Day weekend no less.
But I shouldn't be surprised one bit. I am quite sure you have no understanding of the term S-A-C-R-I-F-I-C-E anyways.
An Joel is correct, just because you don't agree with one's methods does not mean you divulge them to the enemy. That is the primary reason one question's who side the NYTs (and anyone who agrees with them) is on.
But yet again, we are speaking of the NYTs now:
NYT Publisher Goes on a Left-Wing Rant at Graduation
Posted by: Clay Waters
5/24/2006 9:16:33 AM
As keynote commencement speaker, Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger "apologized" to graduates at the State University of New York at New Paltz on Sunday for the failure of his generation to stop the Iraq War and to sufficiently promote "fundamental human rights" like abortion, immigration, and gay marriage.
Daily Freeman reporter Paul Kirby quotes from Sulzberger's address, which he begins with a facetious "apology" to the class for being part of the generation that let them down due to insufficient liberal activism.
"'I will start with an apology,' Sulzberger told the graduates, who wore black gowns and hats with yellow tassels. 'When I graduated in 1974, my fellow students and I ended the Vietnam War and ousted President Nixon. OK. OK. That's not quite true. Maybe there were larger forces at play.'"
He went on to lament that his generation "had seen the horror and futility of war and smelled the stench of government corruption. Our children, we vowed, would never know that. So, well, I am sorry."
Some more from Sulzberger: "It wasn't supposed to be this way. You weren't supposed to be graduating in an America fighting a misbegotten war in a foreign land. You weren't supposed to be graduating into a world where we are still fighting for fundamental human rights, be it the rights of immigrants to start a new life, the right of gays to marry or the rights of women to choose."
Kirby reports: "Sulzberger added the graduates weren't supposed to be let into a world 'where oil still drives policy and environmentalists have to relentlessly fight for every gain. You weren't. But you are and I am sorry for that.'"
Sulzberger's full commencement speech has been posted at Romenesko's Media News.
Gee Arty, I thought your job was to report the news, not manipulate domestic/international policy?
NYT bias....no way.....(sarcasm off)
-SLK
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Nohero
Supporter
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5479
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 7:48 pm: |
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Psst - SLicK, he's the publisher.
Every publisher has an opinion.
That's what editorial pages are for. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1958
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 4, 2006 - 8:12 pm: |
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The generals who sucked up to the Administration and supported Bush's idiotic war plan are equally devoid of honor - and responsible for many more deaths.
They must have learned at an earlier stage of their careers that its best just to go along with the bullies in the crowd.
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