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ina
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Username: Ina

Post Number: 367
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/30/184153/403
The crux of the decision:

When public employees make statements pursuant to their official duties, [they] are not speaking as citizens for First Amendment purposes, and the Constitution does not insulate their communications from employer discipline," writes Justice Anthony Kennedy for the majority.

The majority justices drew a distinction between work-related speech and the speech of a concerned citizen.

"When an employee speaks as a citizen addressing a matter of public concern, the First Amendment requires a delicate balancing of the competing interests surrounding the speech and its consequences," Justice Kennedy writes. "When, however, the employee is simply performing his or her job duties, there is no warrant for a similar degree of scrutiny.":
Even worse, wait for Bush to issue an Executive Order or 'Signing Statement' which equates corporations operating under Government Contract as agents of the Government....

Mark my words, here it comes.

In larger terms, the ruling today in the SCOTUS, overturning an opinion in a US Appeals court, sets a new bar, a bar that may be seen by future historians as a crucial tipping point in the corporatization of government.

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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 221
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Mark my words, here it comes."

And when it doesn't come, I'm sure you'll be right here, posting "It looks like I was incorrect, again. Sorry about that".

Right?
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Hoops
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Username: Hoops

Post Number: 1389
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MBJ - in all seriousness - do you think that a worker at say the DMV, to report to their boss that they have witnessed some corruption or inefficiency and then be fired for it?

Interestingly the statement does seem to say that the DMV employee could speak to the press about it in the form of their personal life.
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ina
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Username: Ina

Post Number: 368
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MBJ, "mark my words" is a quote from the original piece, which isn't clear. I would LOVE to be wrong, about this, about the massacre in Haditha, about global warming, but unfortunately so far my worst fears have come true, and then some. My grandparents turned a blind eye to developments in Germany in the 30's and that's a legacy I will not continue.
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notehead
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Username: Notehead

Post Number: 3363
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a good point made about the use of "signing statements." This administration has made far more use of those than any other, and it's just not right.
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Southerner
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Username: Southerner

Post Number: 1101
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 8:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ina,
You should be scared.

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