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Strawberry
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7379
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 10:07 am: | 
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"A former Republican congressman narrowly beat his Democratic rival early Wednesday for the House seat once held by jailed Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a race closely watched as a possible early barometer of next fall's vote.
Republican Brian Bilbray emerged victorious after a costly and contentious special election race against Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member."
Certainly not what the Dems were hoping for as we move closer to the midterm elections. The culture of corruption nonsense isn't working. Seems to me this is a sign of things to come..
Remember folks, Americans vote GOP..
BE PROUD, BE AMERICAN, BE REPUBLICAN.
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Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1422
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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I believe that in that district is only 35% democratic. The republicans spent over 5 million dollars there and could only garner a narrow victory. Well the seat is still republican and that does mean that there will be no checks and balances, no ethics investigations, higher deficits and less help for those that need it.
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Strawberry
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7380
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 11:22 am: |
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Still, it's another loss for the Democrats. More excuses, another loss.
A loss here would have spelled trouble for the GOP..I mean even a prison sentence can't get the Dems. a win. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5691
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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The 50th District is 44% registered republican. 30% Democrat, but that means the rest lean left or as true moderates wait for a consensus to form and then join it.
Bilbray is described as a squish but when he adopted a conservative stance on immigration that things finally moved in his direction. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3330
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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cjc, what is this disdain you have for moderates? Anyone who is not a zealot for one party or another is, in your mind, waiting for someone to tell them how to vote. That is simply not true. But you can perpetuate that if it helps you sleep at night. |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1817
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 1:30 pm: |
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This was a bummer. I don't think the Dems are going to take the House. They'll gain a fair number, but not enough. |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3406
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 3:27 pm: |
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This result is a bummer, but considering that there are a lot more Republicans in this district, the GOP spent millions more than Dems, and the vote was so close, I think that the implications are pretty positive for Dems. |
Strawberry
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7384
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 3:48 pm: |
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there is no positive here for the Democrats. Duke was an easy target for the left and again they failed to capitalize. If you can't gain this seat using the "culture of corruption" theme, you won't win many others.
The Dems need a new attack plan. This was the key race in the nation yesterday and once again the Republicans won. As CJC made clear they did it by demonstrating strength. This time regarding the border.
Any issue that requires toughness is going to generally be a Republican victory. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 5061
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 7, 2006 - 4:23 pm: |
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On the other hand, spending $5-10 million on a district that's always been safely Republican is not a sustainable business model for the GOP. They're going to have to spend a lot more than even that to keep the closer districts in line. |
notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3410
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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Ahhh... maybe this is what the ultra-prescient Dubya meant when he said that the tax cuts would actually be better for the economy -- they need the money so that the GOP can spend it on elections! I gotta get into the business of making commercials for the GOP! |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1491
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 9:44 am: |
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Didnt Debra Bowen win? she will be the DEM SOS of California, she will be running the Elections?
....... please note that this was a special election, If I recall correctly Brian Bilbray will be running again, in Nov '06 for a regular term. Maybe running against Francine Busby -- again.
There are about 50k more registered "R"s than "D"s in CA 50. SOo nothing to see here, move along, come back in November. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1492
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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On Edit- Bowen won the DEM primary for CAL SOS. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1494
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 11:50 am: |
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Busby did better in the primary:
Bilbray - 34,417
Busby - 43,517
http://vote.ss.ca.gov/Returns/usrep/5000.htm
A Harbringer for the November election? I dont know. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 5070
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 12:32 pm: |
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If the Republicans have to keep spending $200-300 per vote, that's a good sign. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1495
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/Special/cd50/elections_cd50_genresults.htm
semi final official canvass:
Bilbray - 60,319 votes cost about 5 million.
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cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5705
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 1:11 pm: |
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Money a problem for Republicans? Pish posh, mere bag of shells. If Bush and Republicans move back to the right, that's not a problem. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1498
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 1:06 pm: |
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"Pish posh, mere bag of shells." |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2776
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 5:49 pm: |
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Why do the Dems want to win the House? At best they will have a small majority and they will either have to support Bush's agenda and alienate their base or oppose Bush and be labeled obstructionist. The goal is the Presidency in 2008. |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1502
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 6:13 pm: |
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"subpeona power"
Plus the ability to actually hold a hearing.
Plus the ability to actually bring a bill to the floor.
Plus when DEMs get the Congress back, and remove Bush And Cheney, we will have a DEM president in 2007.
If the Neo CONs were smart, they would impeach Bush NOW. Then they would clobber the DEMs in NOV. And I mean clobber, the COns could end up with a 35 seat margin in the House. They would have something to run on, and would control the damage during impeachment hearings, lessening the damage to Bush, VS, when the DEMs do it, all bets are off. Its to the advanatge of the CONs to control the process of impeachment. I think voters would respect the Congress if they did this.
But most likely the CONs will pander to the Religious right on Gay Marriage and some other hot button issue. But clothcoat republicans are getting sore about being used like this, certainly Indie voters are fed up.
Even RNC chair Ken Mehlman has said he thinks the DEMs will win 25 or more seats.
Anon, I'm not sure why your thinking of 2008, when it probably comes down to 2006. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2779
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 7:52 pm: |
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In what dreamworld do you live that you could even imagine Republicans impeaching Bush?
If the Dems take over, who are they going to subpoena? Who are they going to force to come to a hearing? Who will cliam "Executive Privilege"? It will look like a vendetta just like when the Republicans went after Clinton and it has a very good chance of backfiring just like the impeachment of Clinton. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1449
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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anon, it may look like a vendetta but in this case there are very real crimes against Americans.
However, I dont think there will be enough time to investigate and come up with a compelling case and really even if the dems take the house is there any possibility a republican senate will find Bush guilty?
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tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 5075
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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Considering you need a 2/3 majority in the senate to convict, the chances are virtually nil. Cheney might be induced to resign, but unless there's some smoking gun out there Bush isn't leaving.
But hearings, and lots of them, would be good. There's a lot of dirty laundry to air, and six years of congressional oversight to catch up on. The Republicans have been allowing the executive branch to behave like royalty; they've failed at doing what the legislative branch is supposed to do. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2781
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 8:47 pm: |
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If the Dems take control of the House they should come up with an agenda to deal with health care, immigration, Iraq, the deficit, education, social security, minimum wage. If all they do is fight with GWB, their majority will last two years!!!! |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5708
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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Foj -- you're hilarious. |
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