| Author |
Message |
    
us2inFL
Citizen
Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 1455
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 4:33 am: | 
|
Hope his 72 virgins are straight out of the house of horrors. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11760
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 4:51 am: |
|
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13195017/
|
newone
Citizen
Username: Newone
Post Number: 386
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 7:05 am: |
|
Hope he's enjoying hell.... |
Eric Wertheim
Citizen
Username: Bub
Post Number: 206
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 7:05 am: |
|
I don't know what it will accomplish but it feels damn good. I hope it was slow and painful. |
Andrew N de la Torre
Citizen
Username: Delatorre
Post Number: 473
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 7:25 am: |
|
Maybe our troops will come home sooner |
Project 37
Citizen
Username: Project37
Post Number: 108
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 7:46 am: |
|
It's sad that things have gotten to the point where I greet such news with more cynicism than relief. It seems his level of importance in the media shifted depending on how close we were to catching/killing him.
That said, good riddance.
|
S.L.K.s. Ghost
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1628
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 7:48 am: |
|
Yahoooo! 
Next.... |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11761
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 8:01 am: |
|
The million dollar question is there anyone to replace him?
Like him or not, Zarqawi was a ruthless and effective leader. Some people like that have trouble with strong lieutenants, others don't. Hope that his command structure died with him or that he was to ego driven to bring along a second tier leadership. I suspect that after a few savage revenge attacks, Al Qaeda in Mesopatamia is going to be concerntrating on its own leadership issues for a while. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1432
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 8:30 am: |
|
He already has a replacement. His group released a statement by someone with a last name like al Iraqi or something, saying that they will continue.
Its a great thing this criminal and 7 of his deputies are dead. For once I agree with SLK.
|
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 9788
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 8:40 am: |
|
Time to rename "safe-house" to something like "place to get blown up in". |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7392
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 9:22 am: |
|
BobK,
Abu al-Masri will replace him. |
notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3409
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 9:26 am: |
|
I hope this sends a major tremor through the ranks of al-Qaeda, and gives Iraqis more confidence in their future. This is great news! |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1940
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 9:39 am: |
|
This is great news.
But now Bush is going to go thumping his chest, talking his hillybilly smack, and all that ••••, when really, these are the kinds of victories we should have been seeing all along. He couldn't call the press conference this morning early enough. How about I go call a press conference because I filed my TPS reports on time? It's his f-cking job to do this ••••. He's going to milk this to no end, when he should be figuring out how to get Osama, and the guy who will inevitably fill Zarqawi's shoes, and the rest of those scumbags, and maneuvering to get our boys and girls out of Iraq. If you right-leaning nutcases don't think Bush give a crap about his poll numbers, have a look at the administration in the wake of this. You just know they're going to roll it over into further attacks on gays. What a disgrace Bush is!
|
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7393
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 9:43 am: |
|
 |
Pizzaz
Supporter
Username: Pizzaz
Post Number: 3727
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 9:50 am: |
|
I'm proud to be an American.  |
C Bataille
Citizen
Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2648
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
|
Is al-Zarqawi the guy who was originally a pediatrician? That always stumped me about him. Like, what would it take for a person to go from caring for ill/injured children to becoming such a destructive force? I'm glad he's out of the loop and hope that his successor is not half as smart or effective as he was. |
Arnomation
Citizen
Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 563
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:05 am: |
|
Hope his 72 virgins are straight out of the house of horrors
He better hope that these virgins are women... |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1434
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
|
RL - We finally caught a bad guy. That is a success that Bush should be allowed to point to with pride.
It doesnt affect his standing as worst ever president because Al Zarqawi was his creation in the first place. The evil this guy stood for still exists and will continue as long as the Iraqi government can not control their own people and as long as the USA refuses to use enough manpower to do the job the right way.
There is civil war in Iraq and as with any civil strife there are all kinds of factions fighting for their own survival.
Its good we caught this guy but he didnt bomb the WTC. Wheres Osama? Thats the guy I want to see blown up. |
dougw
Citizen
Username: Dougw
Post Number: 838
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
|
Bush spoke this morning. No chest thumping. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1941
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
|
Has there ever been a president better at manipulating our expectations? We honestly expect nothing from this administration. It's been three years since we've entered Iraq and this is the best news we've had. Whatever happened to an America that got •••• done!? So now the president finally has a victory. Good. I'd like to see him roll up his sleeves and build on this. |
Eric Wertheim
Citizen
Username: Bub
Post Number: 207
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:31 am: |
|
RL:
You can enjoy this for 5 minutes without it being seen as an endorsement of Bush. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1942
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
|
That's kind of my issue. This is something that was to be expected. We were told over and over we'd get these guys. And we never did. So when we finally do it's a day to celebrate? Bullsh-t. Get back to work, George, because this was just the tip of the iceberg. I'll commence the enjoyment when the troops are home. Or when Osama goes down, but I'm not holding my breathe there. |
S.L.K.s. Ghost
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1632
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:36 am: |
|
RL,
Why don't you suit up and show us how it is done?
-SLK |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7394
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:37 am: |
|
RL,
shut up already. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1943
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:43 am: |
|
"shut up already."
Spoken like a true neo-con fascist. |
ae35unit
Citizen
Username: Ae35unit
Post Number: 92
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
|
This news about Zarqawi can't be bad, but I had to agree with Project 37, that said, I also agree with the good riddance part of course. I saw this article though, take a look at the date.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890. html
I hate it when I get too serious, but let me say this too. Strawberry's constant pro dictatorship, anti-American comments are repugnant, imbecilic and irresponsible. What's more is the let's destroy America, up is downism, that he spews is completely in step with the plans the Republicans have to stay in power. In other words anti-American rhetoric = mainstream Republican message, make no mistake about who these people are.
Strawberry constantly tells us that efforts to subvert democracy and the constitution, by people like Kenneth Blackwell, are good for the country. Through the looking glass anyone? If someone tells you who they are, believe it.
|
dougw
Citizen
Username: Dougw
Post Number: 839
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
|
RL you had a post without any red dots. Good for you! |
sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2448
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
|
"How about I go call a press conference because I filed my TPS reports on time?"
LOL - Why am I not surprised that RL has the kind of low level crappy job that requires him to file TPS reports?
Did you at least put a cover sheet on your TPS reports? If not I'm gonna sick Terry Tate on you. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1944
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
|
Sorry, sports, I'm down with The Bobs. I've got upper management written all over me. But thanks for taking this thread completely off course.
(And also thanks for proving that in your world, being a low-level employee might somehow make me an inferior person.) |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1436
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
|
sportsnut, it doesnt become you to gloat over what legitimate work others are doing becuase you live in upscale land.
SLK - the same could be said for most Americans. We are not being asked to sacrifice - our children and grandchildren are. Your statement is once again nowhere near the point.
ae35unit - I agree.
RL - Killing this guy doesnt make up for all the misery we have caused in Iraq. I agree with you, I wont be celebrating anything until we have killed Bin Laden and brought the troops back home where they belong. |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 9792
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
|
MOL is putting new cover sheets on all of our TPS reports now before they go out. Did you get that memo? |
sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2449
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:14 am: |
|
Apparently they didn't get the memo or the reference, but I digress.
(And also thanks for proving that in your world, being a low-level employee might somehow make me an inferior person.)
Believe me it's not just the TPS reports that make me feel like you are inferior.
And to get this topic back on track this is good news - at least to most people. RL excepted of course. |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7395
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
|
CBastille,
The former doc is Al-Zahrawi who's hiding out with Bin Laden. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
|
Yes, this is good news. But it's not a reason to celebrate. Remember, Bush has been saying we'd get these f-ckers for almost five years now. Five years. It was a f-cking GIVEN. That's what he said. Dead or alive. (He only regrets the "cowboy language" now because he's such a pathetic failure, writing checks his butt couldn't cash and all.)
Sportsnut: Everyone loves a snob! |
sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2451
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:30 am: |
|
RL - I've been called worse by much, much better and of all the things I've been called I don't ever recall snob being used.
BTW, frequent cursing is a sign of ignorance.
I don't recall seeing Americans dancing in the streets "celebrating" and I haven't read anything on this thread that could be construed as celebrating. Good news? Definitely. Cause for celebration? No.
|
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 9793
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
|
I did a little happy dance, if that counts as celebration. We blew up a guy responsible for killing hundreds of innocents. |
S.L.K.s. Ghost
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1635
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
|
RL,
Again, why don't you suit up and show us how it is done?
-SLK |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7396
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
|
He's not allowed to leave the Institution for extended periods of time, let alone fight overseas.  |
Mustt_mustt
Citizen
Username: Mustt_mustt
Post Number: 578
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 1:24 pm: |
|
Even as I am very happy that Zarqawi is no more, I am very wary of putting individuals like him on a pedestal because what we are dealing with is a movement and not just a couple of individuals who seemingly represent it. Right now, the media are running with it but what is lacking is analysis. The 'war on terror' for me seems to be very individuated and therein lies the fallacy because somebody or the other will take Zarqawi's place and the bombings will continue...
If Zarqawi's death can effectively shut down Sunni violence, then the US would have achieved something but until then I will keep watching.... |
Debby
Citizen
Username: Debby
Post Number: 2324
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 1:39 pm: |
|
Dave -
I think it's probably thousands of innocents at this point. Just think of all the police stations and military buildings and car bombings. I think it's been averaging more than a hundred/week.
I'm sure there will be "revenge" attacks for this, but hopefully a few of his top people went with him, and they'll take a while to regroup.
C Bataille - straw is right...it is Ayman al-Zawahri (sp), Osama bin-Laden's #2 (and, many say, the brains behind the operation) that is a former physician.
"First do no harm" myass. |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 1:40 pm: |
|
Mixing up the material a bit, Straw. Good for you. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5697
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 2:06 pm: |
|
I would argue that saying someone else will come along implies that Zarqawi's ability is replaceable and in fact is already in place to some extent. I think this doesn't give due credit to just what Zarqawi accomplished. His activities stretch back to the USS Cole. While he seemed to have trouble with shooting a automatic rifle in that video a while back, he was quite good at extended planning and making use of what materials he had to inflict terror as his abilities deteriorated.
And I use deteriorated in describing his acts as the object of Zarqawi's attacks have shifted to the Iraqi people and soft targets. His ability to hold towns and take on the US and Iraqi military somewhat head-on is no longer. |
Eric Wertheim
Citizen
Username: Bub
Post Number: 208
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 2:13 pm: |
|
Its not just the death that is satisfying. It is also helpful to explode (if you will) the mystique that builds up around someone who can't seem to be caught (like you know who). |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6491
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 8, 2006 - 6:16 pm: |
|
Unfortunately the more the press and the WH, and by press I mean international press as well, talk about this knucklehead and the atrocities he committed or the bombings he masterminded he will be seen by the radicals as a martyr and there will be a flood of 'enlistments'. I am damned glad that the world is rid of such a...such a...such a...there are almost no adjectives that can adequately describe what a ___________________ he was.
And while I will do a little dance, make a little love get down tonight and all, RL for all his profanity laced red dotted posting has a point. We have been told, over and over again that this sort of achievement would be immediate and swift. Shock and Awe. Dead or Alive. So while I am delighted he is rotting slowly and decomposing as we speak, it should have happened sooner than this.
It is a difficult balance. But to the pilot and crew of that plane
NICE F**KING SHOT! |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1721
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 9:32 am: |
|
Speaking of Ayman al-Zawahri
Al-Qaida No. 2 praises al-Zarqawi in tape
CAIRO, Egypt - The Al-Jazeera network broadcast a video by al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri on Friday in which he spoke about Palestinian and Egyptian politics and the situation in Darfur.
The tape apparently was made before the announcement that Iraq's most-wanted terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was killed Wednesday by a U.S. airstrike. Al-Zawahri praised the al-Qaida in Iraq leader's efforts to confront U.S.-led forces in Iraq.
"God bless the prophet of Islam in Iraq, the persistent hero of Islam, the Holy Warrior Abu Musab al-Zarqawi," al-Zawahri said.
He also sent greetings to the Shura Council of Mujahedeen in Iraq and insurgents, "who are confronting crusaders and their apostate aides and the merchants of religion." The bearded al-Zawahri wore a white turban and tunic, and sat before a black background with an automatic weapon propped behind his right shoulder. He repeatedly waved his right hand and pointed his finger in a gesture of admonishment.
Al-Zawahri urged Muslims to reject a referendum proposed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on establishing a Palestinian state alongside
Israel.
"I call on Muslims to reject any referendum on Palestine, because Palestine is a house of Islam and not subject to any compromise," he said.
"I call upon Muslims everywhere to support the brothers in Palestine," he said, mentioning armed Islamist militants, prisoners and their families.
Al-Zawahri, who has focused on political issues before in his tapes, also discussed the campaign by a group of Egyptian judges for the independence of the judiciary and the ongoing violence in Sudan's Darfur region.
|
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1821
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 10:11 am: |
|
ae35unit,
Thanks for the link. |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6503
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 3:08 pm: |
|
From the AP story today...He was alive when the American and Polish troops reached him..
Quote:We did in fact see him alive," he said. "There was some sort of movement he had on the stretcher, and he did die a short time later."
I am at war with the delight I feel that he suffered and saw the faces of the people who clobbered him and the sorrow of a human life, any human life being blown to bits.
But as I said yesterday, to the pilot and crew of the airplane
NICE F**KING SHOT |
doulamomma
Citizen
Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1513
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 5:12 pm: |
|
But did they have to put his dead face on the cover of the Times & other papers today - yuck |
Foj
Citizen
Username: Foger
Post Number: 1497
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 8:35 pm: |
|
al-Zarqawi's House. I'm surprised there was a piece left of him, let alone he lived long enough to talk to US troops. |
Gregor Samsa
Citizen
Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 529
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 8:51 pm: |
|
Uh Oh...I feel a videotape of the real Al-Zarqawi (not the body double) coming on. |
Duncan
Supporter
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6505
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 9:36 pm: |
|
na na na boo boo
you can't catch me
or something along those lines.
I dare say some serious DNA testing will be done on the corpse. Which ought to clear things up. |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2768
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 11:18 pm: |
|
What is a TPS report? |
sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2454
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TPS_report
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Tate:_Office_Linebacker
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6238953685626218421
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2602229974531953634 |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2774
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
|
Thanks. |
notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3417
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:52 pm: |
|
Duncan is right. DNA testing was performed and autopsy information released to "counter misinformation and propaganda regarding al-Zarqawi."
CNN
Are people who don't believe Z was killed by the blast really going to have their minds changed by this? |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11792
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |
|
No, but the best arguement is simply that he would have been extremely valuable as an inteligence source had he lived. Why kill a goldmine of information? |
Closed: New threads not accepted on this page