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Strawberry
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Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7427
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:38 am: | 
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060615/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_apology |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4394
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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And his only complaint is that the president didn't answer his question at the news conference.
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ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 555
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:01 am: |
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you can see the video here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/14/bush-reporter-shades/ |
GOP Man
Citizen
Username: Headsup
Post Number: 410
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:06 am: |
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this is what you silly libs don't understand. our president is too smart to answer questions at a press conference and his jokes accomplish two goals: they put everyone at ease, and they distract the press so that he can move on without answering their silly little questions. in this case, he made an understandable error, and was big enough to apologize. so he didn't have to answer the question, and he gets to look like a big-hearted person by apologizing. I'd say it's win-win for the president. as as usual, the idiot libs in the media get outsmarted as their questions go unanswered. |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 937
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:24 am: |
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Who knew he was even capable of apology? It was the right thing to do, and I give him credit...the same as I would give a first grader who apologizes for insulting someone. Good boy, Georgie...three cheers for you.
Could the bar for this president possibly be any lower? |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7429
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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Could the bar for this president possibly be any lower?
according to who, you?
The President isn't wasting his time trying to impress the Madden11's of the world. He's more concerned with the majority of Americans who have their eyes on the ball.
That ball being terrorism, the economy, a democratic Iraq, etc.
libs.  |
GOP Man
Citizen
Username: Headsup
Post Number: 411
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
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madden,
just because some of us rightly give the president 3 cheers for doing someting doesn't actually mean that we think it's important or impressive. get a clue, libs! |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3378
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 1:10 pm: |
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Straw, the majority of Americans who think the President is doing a bad job have their eyes on the ball, in your opinion? Wow. Talk about policy shift. |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 324
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:07 pm: |
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Thanks, Straw. Being a conservative is very lonely these days. We need people like you to help the lieberals understand that we need to be focused on our problems. That is why our president kept on saying, "9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11,
8/11 (opps, that's when he ignored the memo about the future 9/11) 9/11, and 9/11" during every press conference, speach and State of the Union address since 9/11. You would think that the leftiew would get it by now, but they are too thick.
And the economy, thank heaven we have a president who's economic vision was strong so that we would all be able to afford the $3.00 gas prices that we are paying.
The democratic Iraq is now becoming a reality. I understand the Iraqui Constitution has a provision for Initiative and Referendum and--get this-- the ungrateful guttersnipes want to introduce a referendum on whether the U.S. troops should leave Iraq. I bet they vote to keep us there.
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notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3434
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:08 pm: |
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Madden's question is spot-on. We should praise the POTUS for apologizing to somebody he inadvertently insulted? What is he, a toddler?
I don't know why the press bothered with such a triviality in the first place. |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4402
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:15 pm: |
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This isn't the first time that Bush has been blind-sided by the visually impaired. In 2002, our colleague Lloyd Grove noted in The Washington Post that the President waved to sunglasses-wearing Stevie Wonder at the Ford Theater.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/r_m/story/426812p-360017c.html |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 2164
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:22 pm: |
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not really |
notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3438
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:27 pm: |
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Next: Straw will congratulate Dubya for getting dressed all by himself. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14713
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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Could the bar for this president possibly be any lower?
No. Three cheers to President Bush for reaching the bar.
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S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1709
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:07 pm: |
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And I am waiting tyou to congratulate the lot of you on winning an election but it is apparent by your posts that won't happen anytime soon... |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14717
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |
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Your typo makes it impossible for me to understand you.
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ae35unit
Citizen
Username: Ae35unit
Post Number: 104
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:27 pm: |
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S.L.K. 2.0-
Three drinks and you're out! |
John Caffrey
Citizen
Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 327
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:39 pm: |
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Keeping us focused on the ball....Dubya said it best, himself.
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda."
May 10. 2005
Still, he shoulda given credit to the source of his inspiration for this, Joseph Goebbels |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1130
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 3:45 pm: |
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I love it. No plan so continue to criticize the trivialities. This is going to be a fun year for conservatives and another head scratcher for you true believers. But the polls...... |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14719
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 4:54 pm: |
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Southerner, are you saying that the shade of our partisan glasses is so dark that we can't see the truth?
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S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1712
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
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tom-
sorry for the typos.
One question. Don't you think it is an arrogant position to imply that you "see the truth" while those like myself and Southerner don't?
-SLK |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14729
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 10:36 pm: |
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It would be, if I were implying that. I'm asking if he thinks we are blind to the truth.
The question I'm leading to is whether he thinks he has an unbiased view of how biased we are. That is the appearance he gives to me.
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us2inFL
Citizen
Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 1459
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 7:23 am: |
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GOPman said "and his jokes accomplish two goals: they put everyone at ease"
I would be more at ease with a competent administration in the White House.
BTW: Did anyone hear the audience reaction on "The Daily Show" when this LA Reporter clip was played? It was priceless, and put everyone at ease.
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ina
Citizen
Username: Ina
Post Number: 382
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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From dailykos:
Suskind: W personally ordered Mentally Ill Terrorist be Tortured
by Magorn
Tue Jun 20, 2006 at 02:46:00 PM PDT
Ron Suskind's new Book is currently garnering media attention for it story of the Subway attack that wasn't, but there are FAR bigger Revelations in his book.
For example:
Bush personally ordered the torture of a suspected terrorist mastermind who turned out to be nothing more than a mentally ill Al-Qaeda flunky, just to save face.
This amazing bit of news is courtesy of the WaPo's review of Suskind's book
When Abu Zubaydah. Was captured he.. [was] described as al-Qaeda's chief of operations [however] ..Zubaydah, his captors discovered, turned out to be mentally ill and nothing like [who]they supposed him to be... [he] also appeared to know nothing about terrorist operations; rather, he was the go-to guy for ...minor logistics [like} travel for wives and children"
That judgment was ... briefed to the President ...yet somehow, in a speech delivered two weeks later, President Bush portrayed Zubaydah as "one of the top operatives ..planning death and destruction on the US"
And when Zubadayah Couldn't deliver any info on terrorist plots:?
Magorn's diary :: ::
Well, Bush had already said it, and in the spirit of his adminstration's habit of "creating their own reality" it was now officially true, so when Zubaydah wasn't forthcoming with the details of plots he knew nothing about:
under White House and Justice Department direction, the CIA would make him its first test subject for harsh interrogation techniques.
And here's the Stunner. Bush Personally Ordered his torture, because he was worried about losing face:
"I said he was important," Bush reportedly told Tenet at one of their daily meetings. "You're not going to let me lose face on this, are you?" "No sir, Mr. President," Tenet replied. Bush "was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth," Suskind writes, and he asked one briefer, "Do some of these harsh methods really work?"
This question ranks only slightly below "Will no One rid me of this Meddlesome Priest?" as an obvious indirect command. Not Surprisingly, just like Henry Plantagenet's goons, the CIA took the hint and ran with it:
Interrogators did .. strapped Abu Zubaydah to a water-board, which reproduces the agony of drowning. They threatened him with certain death. They withheld medication. They bombarded him with deafening noise and harsh lights, depriving him of sleep
Now let's keep firmly in Mind all of this Torture (best to call things what they really are, I find) , was going on MONTHS after the CIA and the FBI had conclusive proof this guy was not merely insane, but actively suffering from multiple personality disorder:
CIA and FBI analysts, poring over a diary he kept for more than a decade, found entries "in the voice of three people: Hani 1, Hani 2, and Hani 3" -- a boy, a young man and a middle-aged alter ego. All three recorded in numbing detail "what people ate, or wore, or trifling things they said." Dan Coleman, then the FBI's top al-Qaeda analyst, told a senior bureau official, "This guy is insane, certifiable, split personality."
and it Bears repeating again
Abu Zubaydah also appeared to know nothing about terrorist operations; rather, he was al-Qaeda's go-to guy for minor logistics -- travel for wives and children and the like. That judgment was "echoed at the top of CIA and was, of course, briefed to the President and Vice President," {long BEFORE the torture was ordered-ED}
Amazingly, after being tortured for weeks and months, the crazy Al-qaeda flunky suddenly remembered anything his interrogators wanted him to remember. Zubaydah, gave up details of All KINDS of terrorist plots. Too bad they were, technically speaking, completely made up fantasies:
Under that duress, he began to speak of plots of every variety -- against shopping malls, banks, supermarkets, water systems, nuclear plants, apartment buildings, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Statue of Liberty
And of Course
With each new tale, "thousands of uniformed men and women raced in a panic to each . . . target."
Wasting, of course, thousands of man hours, Millions of dollars, and letting who knows how many REAL plots go undetected because our law enforcement apparatus was occupied chasing fantasies?
This is normally the part where I throw in a concluding paragraph telling you what I think It all means, but frankly I can't do better than this sentence from Suskind's book:
"the United States would torture a mentally disturbed man and then leap, screaming, at every word he uttered."
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notehead
Supporter
Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3475
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:00 pm: |
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I'm glad these things are being brought to light, but, really, is anybody surprised any more?  |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:02 pm: |
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That Bush is a psychotic sociopath? As are most of his supporters?
No. |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1162
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 5:47 pm: |
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Reingold,
Sorry I never replied. I must have missed this thread after my initial post. No, I think some of you guys are capable of seeing the truth. Besides, who's truth are you talking about? We've had this discussion before. You are a reasonable person, I am a reasonable person (although I enjoy mixing it up on MOL) and we just simply disagree on almost the entire array of political issues.
My point being is the Dems have no chance of winning in November if all they have is to bash Bush. It didn't work in 2002 or 2004. They need some meat to go with the noodles. You are not going to take back Congress with only noodles. Every minority party in our country's history had noodles. Believe me, my Republican Party had noodles for decades and lost because we had no meat. The current Dems have no meat which is why I made my earlier post. Now I must eat dinner. |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2810
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:38 pm: |
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What did you have for dinner? |
Robert Livingston
Citizen
Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 1953
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 9:16 am: |
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Roadkill, like always. |
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