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Strawberry
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

256-153...America won't quit on Iraq.

This one day after the GOP disgraced Kerry and his moronic resolution.
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ae35unit
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strawberry,

Why do want more death?

Why do you mock our troops?

Why do you smear veterans?

Why do you prop up draft dodgers?

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Strawberry
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talk to Congress, not me. By the way 42 House Dems voted for the resolution..
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ajc
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ae35unit, why do you want to stand with the losers?

Listen, the old guard Democrats and the Left are on the run. Confidence for Bush and his administration is on the rise. Give it up pal, the tide has turned...

BTW, Strawberry doesn't want more death, but it sure looks like you're mocking our troops and smearing the past good deeds of our veterans! From the way you sound, I think you may be a draft dodger we never caught...
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Foj
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Straw, I was just going to post up, about the Stupidest DEMS in Congress. 42 DEM Suckers. They fell for it.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Art: Are you saying that after 6 years and two elections the tide is just now turning? What are you talking about, man? And just because a side is "winning" does that mean everyone is supposed to join it? How very fascist and totalitarian of you. Of course, I expect no less. But at your age, I guess it's too much to hope for you to change. I'm just glad your kind is on the way out of Maplewood.

And confidence in Bush could ONLY be on the rise, since most of America sees him as psychopathic putz who doesn't know his from his elbow...
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The entrenched old-guard war-mongering Republicans are in Congress, twisting arms, trying to discredit anyone who disagrees. Frankly, I think they're on the way out too, even though they pulled this one off. It's not the wave of the future. It's rule by fear. What a shame. McCarthyism sure is alive and well in Washington. So is jingoistic William Jennings Bryanism.
Here's to the old guard. May they enjoy their last hurrah.
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ae35unit
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strawberry, the whole exercise was a shameless partisan sham by the Republicans. It was neither designed to help our troops or the terrorism issue at large, and puts our troops in greater danger, and you're loving it. That's what I mean by mocking the troops, your taunting, stupid, shameless approach to discourse puts our country and our troops more at risk. The non serious nature of your slander makes people forget the innocents, the soldiers, their families, whose lives are or will be shattered. It's your party, and your kind, that started the unnecessary action in Iraq, and prolong it, and distract our resources from Afghanistan and bin Laden and tragedies of irresponsibility and incompetence like in New Orleans. For all the money we spend in Iraq in a couple of days we could fix our own gulf region. You put our troops in danger, by reducing this war to some kind of game for knee-jerk simpletons.
(sorry ajc) As for those Democrats, now we know who they are, who put politics before national security.

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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL,

I am still in Maplewood and not going anywhere bub....

Your one and only totalitarian fascist,

-SLK

BTW, isn't it fascist to expect to live in community where everyone thinks the same?

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Nohero
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unfortunately, the Republicans in Congress plan on introducing similar "stay in Iraq" resolutions in 2008, 2010, 2012 ...
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Foj
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"isn't it fascist to expect to live in community" nah.. fascism is Corporate owned Government. You are mistaking fascism for the "Stepford Wives".
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 1:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't mind Republicans. I can't stand Bush supporting war mongers, though.

It doesn't matter, because Bush has already admitted this war will be the next president's problem. His legacy!
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tjohn
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It happened a long time ago, actually, but I see that the Iraq War has entered its bloodiest and most senseless phase - the phase where it has become a domestic political battleground.
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ae35unit
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"It happened a long time ago, actually, but I see that the Iraq War has entered its bloodiest and most senseless phase - the phase where it has become a domestic political battleground."

Don't forget politicians reducing this war to some kind of game for knee-jerk simpletons. (sorry ajc)
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cjc
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL -- because the war goes past an administration doesn't mean its eventual success will escape Bush. Did Bush 41 end the Cold War? Did Truman win WW2?

This war on terror will continue past Bush's successor. The battlefronts will change, so will their intensity and the strategies employed.
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Southerner
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love this. Was this resolution more political posturing than substance? Of course it was, but this is a political season. Are you guys that naive. As for the Dems who voted for it, I would think you Dems would want your team to play politics during the political season. You seem to have no problem with them playing politics during non-election years (see 2005), but now you want them not to. This doesn't make sense. Maybe some of you actually enjoy your minority status and the ability to whine and cry about everything that you secretly want the Dems to lose. Rove is back in a big way and I can't wait to see the Dems start eating themselves. Foj, please provide a nice list and synopsis of the 42 traitorous Dems.
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rove isn't back in a big way. The country, even the red states, still don't trust the Bush administration, try as hard as you can to talk it into being. You are wrong. This vote has about as much political sticking power as the Dubai Ports deal did, to the opposite side of the aisle. You kid yourself. I love it, southerner, you are really entertaining how you kid yourself.
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Foj
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 6:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A list? my pleasure, Southerner. This should be the roll call:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll288.xml

Straw, ahhh, the resolution was about the War on Terror, not Iraq.

Oh I get it, you dont see the difference.
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Southerner
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 8:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tulip,
The red states don't trust Bush? Please provide your evidence. I have quite a lot of evidence. The President is the ipso facto leader of the Republican Party as any sitting President is for his party. The Repubs have more Senators than the Democrats. The Republicans have more members of the House of Representatives. The Republicans have more Governorships than the Democrats.

I am not trying to kid myself. I don't have to. Life is good. The Republicans completely dominate the political landscape. It is you Dems who have been trying to convince yourselves that the tide is turning. The tide has supposedly been turning since 1998! I truly love this and will love it even more after we stick it to you Dems once again in November. I'll be happy to mention your post about the red states not trusting Bush when that happens. Hilarious.
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Paul Surovell
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Strawberry,

The Republicans didn't disgrace Kerry's resolution. They had lots of help from craven Democrats who know that the war is doing tremendous damage to our country but who are terrified they'll be called "weak on terrorism" (the Senatorial equivalent of children who are afraid to say "no" because they'll be called "chicken").

The vote was 93-6.

Only six Senators had the courage and conviction to stand up for what is right and for what is in America's best interests -- Robert Byrd, Tom Harkin, Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

At least Robert Byrd isn't standing alone in opposition to the war as he was in the run-up and early days of the war.

There is still (a glimmer of) life in the US Senate. The situation in the House is considerably better with more than 100 co-sponsors of John Murtha's resolution.





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Southerner
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul,
Your list is interesting. Harkin, Kennedy, and Kerry - all Presidential losers. Feingold - a future Presidential loser if he is spending close company with the aforementioned three. Byrd - a tried and true old style Democrat, and he has the hood to prove it. Boxer - the only genuine one in the bunch. I respect her while I disagree with her.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 9:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul-

Only six Senators had the courage and conviction to stand up for what is right and for what is in America's best interests -- Robert Byrd, Tom Harkin, Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

so in other words, the usual suspects?

-SLK
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Gregor Samsa
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Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK...

RL doesn't even live in Maplewood...
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anon
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Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So is jingoistic William Jennings Bryanism.

I thought Bryan was a pacifist and isolationist. Please clarify.
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Steve R Jones
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 4:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Only six Senators had the courage and conviction to stand up for what is right and for what is in America's best interests -- Robert Byrd, Tom Harkin, Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. "

That is just too dang funny. It's like the Who's Who List of Extreme Liberal Voters in the Senate. Anyone that equates courage and conviction with the likes of that bunch, then any hope for logic and reason is lost. Too funny...

Even liberal's recognize that those morons are too liberal.

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Strawberry
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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The3ofUs
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 8:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's worse, liberal politicians being too liberal or conservative politicians being amoral?
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Strawberry
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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mjh
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it better to have the courage of bad convictions than no courage or convictions at all?

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cjc
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Posted on Monday, June 19, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you making a case for cowardice?
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themp
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