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Foj
Citizen Username: Foger
Post Number: 1565 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 4:09 pm: |
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FvF & SLK, I will pay for your ticket to see "An Inconvenient Truth" An Inconvenient Truth (PG) 1:35, 3:30, 5:25, 7:35, 9:35 http://mrmovietimes.com/movie-theaters/Maplewood-Theaters.html |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2069 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 4:40 pm: |
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Foj, They can't see that film: it hasn't been vetted on the Fox News list of approved film, video, or podcast productions. It doesn't have the imprimatur of Hannity, Levin, Coulter, or the producers of 24. Worse than that, if they saw it, they might learn something. And that would be unacceptable. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1780 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 4:55 pm: |
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Inny- I can't see the film because I have two small children to contend with. Will anyone pay for a babysitter as well? I don't even have time to see movies on my "to see" list, let alone this one... Is that a good enough reason for you? Prick...sometimes I like you better when you are overseas on business... -SLK |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1781 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 4:57 pm: |
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Sorry FOJ- Thanks for the offer, really, but now is not the right time... If I can break out I will let you know.... Maybe a group of us can watch it on DVD with wine and cheese... Netflix-the story of my life these days.... -SLK |
   
Bob K
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11932 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 5:01 pm: |
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Personally I would prefer to see Nacho Libre. |
   
Foj
Citizen Username: Foger
Post Number: 1567 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 5:06 pm: |
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"Maybe a group of us can watch it on DVD with wine and cheese... " Well that sounds like a party, I dont party much these days, but I like your suggestion...
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Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3600 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 5:16 pm: |
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When it's out in DVD, I'll schedule a showing at the South Orange Library (like I am doing this summer for Crash and Munich). Should inspire some interesting discussion. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1783 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 5:20 pm: |
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the last time I partied was at my company x-mas party last year and puked all the way home... my partying is usually limited to 2 beers on a weekend night on the couch... and oh, smetimes i like to smoke crack in the basement but that is a different story... -SLK
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Foj
Citizen Username: Foger
Post Number: 1570 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 5:34 pm: |
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Nancy-- SLK cant bring BEER to the library, I wouldnt want him to get into trouble just for a few beers.... ANd consider "THe death of the Electric Car", its coming out soon.
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sac
Supporter Username: Sac
Post Number: 3555 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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So when is it coming out on video? |
   
anon
Supporter Username: Anon
Post Number: 2814 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 9:13 pm: |
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the last time I partied was at my company x-mas party last year and puked all the way home... my partying is usually limited to 2 beers on a weekend night on the couch... Now I am beginning to understand your politics. You really ought to get out more. |
   
Foj
Citizen Username: Foger
Post Number: 1574 Registered: 9-2004
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 9:33 pm: |
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LOL. |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 766 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 11:06 pm: |
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Foj- I actually voted for Gore in his saner years. Can't see the film because I am siding with Lindsay Lohan in their dispute. Assume the movie short form is : hanging chads are at fault for global warming. Bob K- Nacho Libre? I knew you were the type of guy that always went for that heavy philosophical stuff. . You should also view Adam Sandler's body of work, very Bergman-like. Innisowen- Actually I only watch Wolf Blitzer for my comedy tv, and listen to Michael Savage for his rants. |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2076 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 5:20 pm: |
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Factvsfiction, your universe seems as narrow as I suspected. |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 771 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 5:49 pm: |
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Innisowen- Viewing the contents of your posts, I see you are a fellow traveler. |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2078 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 6:41 pm: |
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Fictionvsfiction, Could be that you're right. I was raised in a European leftist tradition and I see room for that even in the tight right-winged excesses of the USA. Unless of course the right wingers get their wish fulfilled for a monolithic, one size fits all theocracy. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1797 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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of course no one's universe is as large as Inny's....his big mouth has got to fit somewhere.... sometimes his arrogance is truly apalling... -SLK |
   
Aquaman
Supporter Username: Aquaman
Post Number: 968 Registered: 8-2001

| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 6:53 pm: |
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"sometimes his arrogance is truly apalling[sic]...[sic]"
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 774 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 8:26 pm: |
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Aquaman- So how is gate repair school going? Innisowen- "european leftist tradition" = " clueless surrender monkeys"? |
   
notehead
Supporter Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3503 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 4:02 pm: |
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That was below the belt... Wrong assumption about the movie, by the way, Fvf. Gore makes no mention of the 2000 election whatsoever, except to give his now-old joke when introducing himself as the "former next President of the U.S.". Global warming and his efforts to bring it more attention (and action) are the sole focus of the film. "The Death of the Electric Car" looks fascinating to me, although I dunno if it's got much mass appeal. I've always been interested in EV's and when GM's EV-1 came out I thought it might really help the country. Brilliant technology, gorgeous vehicle, huge waiting list, absolutely devoted drivers... and then they trashed the program and literally sent all the vehicles to be crushed with no reasonable explanation whatsoever. (The programs for Honda's EV1, Ford's Th!nk, and Toyota's RAV-4 EV, among others, were similarly nixed for reasons that were dubious at best.) I love the fact that while the EV-1 was still a concept vehicle it was called the "Impact". Not the best choice for a car, I'd say. I just hope the filmmaker was able to really get the inside scoop. |
   
Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2081 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 4:52 pm: |
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Factvsfiction: From your posting above: "european leftist tradition" = " clueless surrender monkeys"? Somehow I knew I could expect such a low class, ignorant comment from you. Thanks for validating my judgement. And we haven't even met face to face. But I'm sure you devour the Simpsons. Perhaps Homer is your alter ego, or your look-alike, or, most likely, your professional peer. Typical narrow-minders like you never surprise me. You run true to form, almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Innisowen
Citizen Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2082 Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 4:58 pm: |
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And SLK 0.0: When you want to insult somebody in print, at least try to spell things right. It really ticks me off when somebody can't even insult me in correctly spelled English. There's nothing like a good insult correctly expressed. Anything else is bumbled, stupid attempts---like printing the sound of someone gargling. At least Fiction appears to know how to spell--- or he has fantastic spellchecker software. |
   
Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1187 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 8:29 pm: |
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"Typical narrow-minders like you never surprise me." Except for every other post where I am outraged and surprised! |
   
Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 789 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 8:53 pm: |
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Notehead- If the comment includes Linday Lohan it was meant to be AMUSING, not definitive. Innisowen- Hmmm. Personal attacks? I smell frustration and weakness. And inability to respond due to intellectual incontinence. |
   
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1814 Registered: 10-2005

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 9:19 pm: |
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Inny- You write us off as "narrowminded" and slam the Simpson's in the same breath? And the best you have to throw back at me is my spelling errors? You're too much. Getting rusty in your old age. -SLK Since spelling mistakes ticks you off so much expect me to make fewer corrections in the future.... ANd oh yeah, leftism did wonderful things for Europe alright.... |
   
Nohero
Supporter Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5537 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:29 pm: |
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Quote:"ANd oh yeah, leftism did wonderful things for Europe alright...."
Apologies in advance, but - I read it, and I cannot figure out what that means. |
   
sbenois
Supporter Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15203 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:14 pm: |
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I saw the film tonight and I thought it was pretty terrific. Well worth seeing. Notehead - there is a two minute long sequence in the middle of the film on the 2000 election. Pictures of Gore/Lieberman/Harris/James Baker and others are shown.
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notehead
Supporter Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3506 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:43 pm: |
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Ah, I forgot about that. Thanks for the correction. Did it change your mind at all about global warming, or are you just appreciative of how well the film was made? |
   
sbenois
Supporter Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15204 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:53 pm: |
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I was impressed with Gore.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 802 Registered: 4-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 6:38 pm: |
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sbenois- Gore needs to slim down a bit. Have Tipper write a book criticizing the "negative imagery" in rap music. Adopt a dog and write a book about him like Teddy. Complete a stringent course of shock treatments. Leave a horse's head in the Clinton's bed (assuming Bill is ever there).
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Nancy - LibraryLady
Supporter Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3613 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 9:51 pm: |
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Saw the movie tonight. Wouldn't call it entertainment, but would say it is a movie that everyone should see (but probably won't) Came home to find this on the Cnn website
Quote:Climate experts: Gore's movie gets the science right WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy. The former vice president's movie -- replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets -- mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press. The AP contacted more than 100 top climate researchers by e-mail and phone for their opinion. Among those contacted were vocal skeptics of climate change theory. Most scientists had not seen the movie, which is in limited release, or read the book. But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels. "Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right." Robert Corell, chairman of the worldwide Arctic Climate Impact Assessment group of scientists, read the book and saw Gore give the slideshow presentation that is woven throughout the documentary. "I sat there and I'm amazed at how thorough and accurate," Corell said. "After the presentation I said, 'Al, I'm absolutely blown away. There's a lot of details you could get wrong.' ... I could find no error." Gore, in an interview with the AP, said he wasn't surprised "because I took a lot of care to try to make sure the science was right." The tiny errors scientists found weren't a big deal, "far, far fewer and less significant than the shortcoming in speeches by the typical politician explaining an issue," said Michael MacCracken, who used to be in charge of the nation's global warming effects program and is now chief scientist at the Climate Institute in Washington. One concern was about the connection between hurricanes and global warming. That is a subject of a heated debate in the science community. Gore cited five recent scientific studies to support his view. "I thought the use of imagery from Hurricane Katrina was inappropriate and unnecessary in this regard, as there are plenty of disturbing impacts associated with global warming for which there is much greater scientific consensus," said Brian Soden, a University of Miami professor of meteorology and oceanography. Some scientists said Gore confused his ice sheets when he said the effect of the Clean Air Act is noticeable in the Antarctic ice core; it is the Greenland ice core. Others thought Gore oversimplified the causal-link between the key greenhouse gas carbon dioxide and rising temperatures. While some nonscientists could be depressed by the dire disaster-laden warmer world scenario that Gore laid out, one top researcher thought it was too optimistic. Tom Wigley, senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, thought the former vice president sugarcoated the problem by saying that with already-available technologies and changes in habit -- such as changing light bulbs -- the world could help slow or stop global warming. While more than 1 million people have seen the movie since it opened in May, that does not include Washington's top science decision makers. President Bush said he won't see it. The heads of the Environmental Protection Agency and NASA haven't seen it, and the president's science adviser said the movie is on his to-see list. "They are quite literally afraid to know the truth," Gore said. "Because if you accept the truth of what the scientific community is saying, it gives you a moral imperative to start to rein in the 70 million tons of global warming pollution that human civilization is putting into the atmosphere every day." As far as the movie's entertainment value, Scripps Institution geosciences professor Jeff Severinghaus summed it up: "My wife fell asleep. Of course, I was on the edge of my chair." Find this article at: http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/06/27/gore.science.ap/index.html
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Dave
Supporter Username: Dave
Post Number: 9996 Registered: 4-1997

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 1:51 am: |
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Quote:"Instead of revolt, you wanna lock people up...pansy...." -SLK "Excuse me while i open my office window and jump out... negative creep... " -SLK "Inny- I can't see the film because I have two small children to contend with. Will anyone pay for a babysitter as well? I don't even have time to see movies on my "to see" list, let alone this one... Is that a good enough reason for you? Prick...sometimes I like you better when you are overseas on business... " -SLK
That's 3 counts of breaking MOL's rules regarding personal attacks and a 3 weeks time out. Hope it was worth it.
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Southerner
Citizen Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1196 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 7:56 am: |
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Dave, That is pathetically weak. I've been called much harsher names and have heard nothing from you. I know you are the King of MOL but come on. |
   
Spinal Tap
Citizen Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2006

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 8:15 am: |
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re: The AP Report http://www.epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=257909 |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1575 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 8:47 am: |
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Spinal tap - why post this bs. The energy lobby asks for a release of 'facts'. These are worse bozos then the tobacco lobby. Bob Carter climate change skeptic Richard Lindzen climate change skeptic and funded by oil companies Roy Spencer climate change skeptic funded by oil companies
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GOP Man
Citizen Username: Headsup
Post Number: 418 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 9:46 am: |
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I agree with Souterner. I don't understand why we can't call each other "prick." what's wrong with that? and now the board will be just a little bit less smart over the next three weeks. we're going to miss SLK's inetelligence, wit, and astounding eloquence. he is one of MOL's truly great thinkers. |
   
Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14819 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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SLK, if you're still here, I'll pay for your babysitter. Contact me at noglider@pobox.com
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notehead
Supporter Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3523 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 4:50 pm: |
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Don't worry SLicK, we'll be here when you get back. (To explain why you're wrong about everything, of course!) |
   
Spinal Tap
Citizen Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2006

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 5:45 pm: |
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Bozos? If it weren’t for those bozos we would all be living in caves. Maybe the energy industry does fund them. So What? What many fail to recognize that that the environmental movement has become a worldwide multi-billion dollar industry in its own right, with its own agenda at heart. Far from being altruistic, as they would have people believe, its agenda tends to be anti-growth, anti-capitalist, and anti-Western. Maybe some are not aware of this but the Earth went through tumultuous climate changes long before people were here and will continue to go through tumultuous changes long after we are gone. There are many phenomena currently occurring involving forces of nature that we can barely comprehend. For example, the Earth’s magnetic field is slightly fading: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/09/0909_040909_earthmagfield.html I think that this along with the well documented increase in solar activity and its effects on ocean currents, the jet stream, the solar winds, volcanic activity, even plate tectonics, is a more reasonable explanation for any climate change than the use of cars is. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html Did you know that the Mars’ polar caps are receding? http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htm What’s causing that? Martians burning fossil fuels? The notion that humans, in our infinitesimal power compared to the forces of this planet and our solar system, forces that we have just barley begun to scratch the surface of understanding, are responsible for changing the climate, has to be the absolute height of human narcissism and arrogance. Many scientists believe that in 20 or 30 years, this whole episode is going to be looked back on as a gigantic hoax. Hopefully, my wallet will still be intact by then.
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Tom Reingold
Supporter Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14824 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 5:49 pm: |
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Your use of the term "infinitesimal power" reminds me of what people said when we started dumping garbage in the ocean. They said that the ocean is too vast for us to have any effect on the ecology there. To me, your imagination about humans' power to do bad and good things that affect the earth is lacking. Your use of the term "many scientists" leads me to ask you to name two or three scientists who feel that this will be seen as a hoax.
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