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Chris Prenovost
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Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 998
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 4:09 pm: | 
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Proof positive that what goes around, comes around:
By TONI LOCY, Associated Press Writer
13 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The CIA officer whose identity was leaked to reporters sued Vice President Dick Cheney, his former top aide and presidential adviser Karl Rove on Thursday, accusing them and other White House officials of conspiring to destroy her career.
In a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court, Valerie Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador, accused Cheney, Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby of revealing Plame's CIA identity in seeking revenge against Wilson for criticizing the Bush administration's motives in Iraq.
Several news organizations wrote about Plame after syndicated columnist Robert Novak named her in a column on July 14, 2003. Novak's column appeared eight days after Wilson alleged in an opinion piece in The New York Times that the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq to justify going to war.
The CIA had sent Wilson to Niger in early 2002 to determine whether there was any truth to reports that Saddam Hussein's government had tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger to make a nuclear weapon. Wilson discounted the reports, but the allegation nevertheless wound up in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union address.
The lawsuit accuses Cheney, Libby, Rove and 10 unnamed administration officials or political operatives of putting the Wilsons and their children's lives at risk by exposing Plame.
"This lawsuit concerns the intentional and malicious exposure by senior officials of the federal government of ... (Plame), whose job it was to gather intelligence to make the nation safer and who risked her life for her country," the Wilsons' lawyers said in the lawsuit.
Libby is the only administration official charged in connection with the leak investigation. He faces trial in January on perjury and obstruction-of-justice charges, accused of lying to FBI agents and a federal grand jury about when he learned Plame's identity and what he subsequently told reporters.
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald told Rove's lawyer last month that he had decided not to seek criminal charges against Rove.
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notehead
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Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3565
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 4:24 pm: |
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Seemed like a card just waiting to be played. I agree: good for her. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3088
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 4:27 pm: |
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Might be some laughs to be had. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2232
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |
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Cheney's safe for now. The Supreme Court would never allow the lunacy of a lawsuit against a sitting president or VP. That would be absolutely nuts, because it would allow partisan hack lawyers to go on a fishing expedition during discovery, and set perjury traps. It would tie up the government and lead to all kinds of partisan shenanigans. The Court would never be that stupid. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 3089
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 4:39 pm: |
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It's an official acts thing, though, isn't it? I think they are immune from official acts, not from shooting people in the face or telling them to F themselves.
Another statement from today from Wilson:
Robert Novak, some other commentators and the Administration continue to try to completely distort the role that Valerie Wilson played with respect to Ambassador Wilson’s trip to Niger. The facts are beyond dispute. The Office of the Vice President requested that the CIA investigate reports of alleged uranium purchases by Iraq from Niger. The CIA set up a meeting to respond to the Vice President’s inquiry. Another CIA official, not Valerie Wilson, suggested to Valerie Wilson’s supervisor that the Ambassador attend that meeting. That other CIA official made the recommendation because that official was familiar with the Ambassador’s vast experience in Niger and knew of a previous trip to Africa concerning uranium matters that had been undertaken by the Ambassador on behalf of the CIA in 1999. Valerie Wilson’s supervisor subsequently asked her to relay a request from him to the Ambassador that he would like the Ambassador to attend the meeting at the CIA. Valerie Wilson did not participate in the meeting. |
Southerner
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Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1261
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:24 pm: |
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I'm sure Cheney is real worried. I know I am. |
Spinal Tap
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Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 46
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |
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I thought their 15 minutes were up. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 979
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:28 pm: |
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Spinal Tap-
She needs another "Vanity Fair" cover.
She and Joe are probably going to do a cosmetics line for men and women next. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2847
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:48 pm: |
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Dr.O':
Do you think we might find out who gives Cheney BJs? |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5612
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:54 pm: |
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I guess we all find this amusing, for various reasons.
Opponents of the Administration find it amusing, for obvious reasons.
Administration supporters find it amusing, because they like to make fun of Ambassador Wilson and Ms. Plame. And that's odd, in light of what we know to be the facts of the situation, as described by U.S. Attorney (and Bush appointee) Patrick Fitzgerald:
Quote:Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community.
Valerie Wilson's friends, neighbors, college classmates had no idea she had another life.
The fact that she was a CIA officer was not well- known, for her protection or for the benefit of all us. It's important that a CIA officer's identity be protected, that it be protected not just for the officer, but for the nation's security.
Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14th, 2003.
But Mr. Novak was not the first reporter to be told that Wilson's wife, Valerie Wilson, Ambassador Wilson's wife Valerie, worked at the CIA. Several other reporters were told.
In fact, Mr. Libby was the first official known to have told a reporter when he talked to Judith Miller in June of 2003 about Valerie Wilson.
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I can say that for the people who work at the CIA and work at other places, they have to expect that when they do their jobs that classified information will be protected. And they have to expect that when they do their jobs, that information about whether or not they are affiliated with the CIA will be protected.
And they run a risk when they work for the CIA that something bad could happen to them, but they have to make sure that they don't run the risk that something bad is going to happen to them from something done by their own fellow government employees.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801340. html
I guess the so-called "Support the Troops" crowd doesn't really support the folks who work to protect us from terrorists, if they happen to be on the "wrong" political side. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2234
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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anon,
maybe we'll find out who was on that energy task force he convened. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2849
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:02 pm: |
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Dr.: May be one and the same!  |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5748
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:22 pm: |
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The first official to have told about Valerie Plame's identity as an officer for the CIA was Dick Armitage at the State Department which operates with their own political agenda.
This suit won't go anywhere and could very well be dismissed as Lawrence O'Donnell reasoned on MSNBC tonight. Among the reasons he cited was that the Wilson's claimed their lives were in danger and then posed for the cover of Vanity Fair.
It appears no one will be indicted for the reasons this investigation was convened.
Democrats can now stop their concern for the well-being of the CIA and go back to cutting and hamstringing the agency.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5615
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:32 pm: |
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I am always amused when the Administration's supporters bring out the old "The Wilsons were in Vanity Fair" argument.
I am amused, because they could not possibly have actually seen the picture, to which they are referring.
That would be this picture:
Sure, it was silly and pretentious, but that's about all it was. It certainly wasn't the big "exposure" of Ms. Plame that some would have you believe.
Everybody already knew what Ambassador Wilson looked like. Anybody who argues that this "revealed" who Ms. Plame was, is pulling your leg.
Nobody has refuted the statements of U.S. Attorney Fitzgerald, by the way. |
cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 5750
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:12 pm: |
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Makes perfect sense for the Plame to pose for a magazine cover as she was fearing for her life. Jury will convict on that alone, especially since that fear is a centerpiece of their lawsuit. Or they'll find that claim amusing.
Nobody has been indicted for disclosing the identity of a covert agent, by the way. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 985
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:13 pm: |
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Is that the Washington version of a burkah?
( actually a hijab )
Joe does look like he thinks he is posing for a Calvin Klein ad.
Come on. Admit it.
PS- Guys, the attorney who drafted the law you are trying to convict everyone on says it would not apply to her. Time to move on (org)? |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5619
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:21 pm: |
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Cjc - Sorry, I failed to consider that you might not be able to read the fine print. So, I will reprint something from what I posted above, which was stated by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald:
"In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community."
And Fvf, You seem to find the word "hijab" to be amusing. That tells everyone a lot about you.
And this is a civil suit, and not a criminal action under the very narrow, and difficult to prove, law about revealing the identity of a CIA operative.
But, thank you for showing that even Republicans will argue for legal technicalities, when it serves their interests.  |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 986
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:23 pm: |
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So you are claiming I am anti-semetic Nohero?
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tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 5262
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:50 am: |
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I'm under the impression that the Vanity Fair piece appeared after she was outed. It seems relevant, to put it mildly, that she didn't appear in a magazine while her cover was intact, but after she had been exposed when her anonymity was gone. The spin machine is trying to finesse this point. |
Chris Prenovost
Citizen
Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 999
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 6:50 am: |
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You're quite right, it did appear AFTER she was exposed.
And I, for one, do not understand why Cheney/Libby/Rove have not been arrested and charged with treason. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 994
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 7:36 am: |
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Given the actual requirements of the law governing disclosure of a CIA agent's identity, under which you want everyone prosecuted, the only real question remains:
Was she wearing Valentino in the photo shoot ? |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey
Post Number: 2237
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 8:56 am: |
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Quote:Democrats can now stop their concern for the well-being of the CIA and go back to cutting and hamstringing the agency.
Straw. Man.
Name one credible mainstream Democrat or progressive since 9/11 who has advocated cutting the CIA. And if you count legislation outlawing torture as "hamstringing" then you need to blame that on Republicans as well. |
Chris Prenovost
Citizen
Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 1001
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 9:33 am: |
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Interesting - the usual apologists for the incompetents cannot defend Bush and his cronies.
So they stoop to personal attacks and comments about designer fashions.
Welcome to the 'swift boating' of Valerie Plame. |
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