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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15456
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:03 pm: | 
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Iran had better cease and desist by August 31 or the UN will certainly be forced to issue a second useless resolution. |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7630
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:47 pm: |
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Let's take a step back a sec. Bolton is there this time and he's a difference maker. Of course so too is Annan the putz.. |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1744
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:24 pm: |
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 difference maker |
Stevef
Citizen
Username: Stevef
Post Number: 218
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:32 pm: |
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We have a Decider.
And a Differencer.
What could possibly go wrong? |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7631
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 8:11 am: |
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I guess you men haven't been paying attention. Not a surprise. |
J. Crohn
Supporter
Username: Jcrohn
Post Number: 2636
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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This resolution is not militarily actionable, thanks to the Russians. Iran plans to respond by August 22.
Israelis have a lot of work to do before then. |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7632
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 11:45 am: |
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Obviously, anything the UN does is going to be questioned, especially regarding the Middle East. However, this resolution does at least make it clear that the current mideast battle in no way turns attention away from Iran's current nuclear activity.
Again, three cheers for Bolton who is leading the charge. Just another reason why he deserves confirmation. |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 5389
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 12:56 pm: |
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So the UN is useful after all, if only to prove the god-like omnipotence of George W. Bush, aka King George The Wise. |
Strawberry
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 7634
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 1:53 pm: |
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Tom,
Your anger blinds you. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3670
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 4:14 pm: |
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Do you think Bolton will be able to convince the Chinese and Russians to go along with us? The UN is an empty shell. They have all the force and authority of a yippie dog, nipping at one's heels. Bolton will not change that. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1262
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 5:00 pm: |
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Ahmadinejad has promised a reply to the U.N. by August 22nd, that being the corresponding date to the 27th of Rajab in the muslim calender, which is the date that Mohammed made a nightime journey to Jerusalem, lighting up the sky after his " flight".
Do you believe there is any significance to that nut job? Glad Israel has the patriot missle batteries.
Ahmadinejad believes that the 12th mahdi who will lead the sh'ia to worldy paradise at the equivalent of the end of days is living in a well in Iran. The believers in the 12th mahdi believe the world as we know it will end in 2 years and it is incumbent upon them to assist bringing about this end.
Um... you think U.N. resolutions are of interest to a worldleader like that? |
Hoops
Citizen
Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1753
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 5:11 pm: |
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so are you making a prediction for 8/22 or just blowing more smoke?
When that date passes without an attack on Israel by Iran will you re-evaluate your positions?
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Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1264
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 6:39 pm: |
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Hoops-
As part of your further education :
The leader of Iran's world view and decision making is tied to his own peculiar religious perspective, which is pretty much geared to what concerns you about your boy Bush and the "rapture". In this case it is real, and scary stuff.
His use of this date as a date for reply, as well as the language, imagery, and symbolism relevant to islam that he has used so far, shows that he believes himself the leader of muslims and a man destined to bring about the arrival of the 12th mahdi. That is through a lot of bloodshed, regardless of whether he tries to launch a missle at Tel Aviv on 8/22. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15461
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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Ahmadinejad has already rejected it.
Next option for the UN: The Comfy Chair |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2910
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 8:50 pm: |
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The world is going to end in two years? I knew that business about social security going bankrupt was just BS. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1981
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 11:05 pm: |
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Getting other major powers to commit publicly to a position on Iran is hardly a waste of time. If the resolution is weak or unlikely to lead to action, those with a stake in the outcome have to weigh their options accordingly - especially if their political project requires the assistance of other countries to succeed.
It's part of a process that requires skill to use effectively. The problem is that Bush's past stupidity has lowered everyone's expectations of what America can accomplish. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1284
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 7:30 pm: |
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anon-
There you go, don't worry, be happy.
Montagnard-
International organizations are a joke.
The UN can't even investigate the " oil for food " scandal properly. NATO is dead in the water without US participation, and Russia and China have transformed themselves into the " say no to America" twins. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15471
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 7:39 pm: |
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Quote:
The UN can't even investigate the " oil for food " scandal properly.
Which is exactly why Jed Clampett is more qualified to run the UN than Kooky Kofi ever was. |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1286
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 10:44 pm: |
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No, Granny. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15478
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |
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Granny? Nah. Remember, it was Jed who was shootin' at some food when up through the ground came a bubblin' crude. Oil that is.
So Jed is perfect. He has experience in these areas.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1287
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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and Jethro can be the U.N. special envoy to the Middle East?
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