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sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15510
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:49 am: | 
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Brutal. Gotta wonder where the bottom for this administration is.
If American Foregin Policy was traded on the CBOE, I'd be buying lots of puts.
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tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 5401
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:59 am: |
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Three years on and we're still trying to electrify Baghdad?
I wonder why she won't answer the question about Cubans in the USA moving back to Cuba? Shouldn't the real answer be, "free people can go where they choose?" She seems to not want to say "no" even though the answer is "no" because it'll alienate that block of Florida voters.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1845
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 2:04 pm: |
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Russert doesn't have the ability to "splay intestines..." he is a good host, but very manipulative in his questioning from week to week. I listen to Meet the Press every week via podcast so i catch him time and time again....he changes questions constantly and misquotes his guests....
tsk, tsk...good show though...just got to keep an eye/ear on tim boy...
-SLK |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10339
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |
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"It's an emotional time" is the crux of her hollow arguments.
Russert trounced her with facts and obvious observations. |
anon
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Username: Anon
Post Number: 2935
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 8:56 pm: |
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Glad I taped it. Hope to watch it later. But now it's time for Deadwood. |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2223
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:27 pm: |
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It was classic. Condi was backpedaling so consistently she could have won the Tour de France, had it been run in reverse. |
kathleen
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Username: Symbolic
Post Number: 634
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:32 pm: |
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Wow. Looks like sbenois is backpedaling too.
Hope all those thank you notes to the Bush Administration didn't set him back a lot. He has large tax bills to pay!
Still, its kind of endearing the way Sbenois keeps get reeled in by the same people over and over, only to find out over and over they stink. |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2224
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 6, 2006 - 10:34 pm: |
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Funny. The quotes Russert uses are put up on display, either as text or as video replay.
So SLK must be saying that Russert is either doctoring the quotes or falsifying the video and sound.
This sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Like the idea comes from another planet.
It's hard to misquote when the words are there for all to see.
How come there are no irate newspapers, journalists, senators, representatives, or members of the administration on public record as suing him or NBC for misrepresentation? |
mlj
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Username: Mlj
Post Number: 371
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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Condi must be very burned out. Russert interviewed her from the Western White House, god help her.
Her responses to Russert's questions were very long, she was just talking talking talking too much and saying nothing constructive. She seemed close to the edge. |
Southerner
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Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1398
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 7:37 pm: |
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And here we go again with you libs. Yes, just like mid 2004, the usual libs are setting themselves up for a big fall all over again. First, they were counting the days until Cheney resigned, then it was Fitzmas time which led to what again?, then the calls for Bush's resignation, followed by Rummy watch, now they are on to Condi watch. Watching you libs is like watching a carousel. Just pick a horse and wish long enough and maybe one will turn right not left. However, we all know how the ride ends, yet somehow you libs really believe this time the horses will turn the other direction. I am enjoying watching you watch the horse. |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15516
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 8:23 pm: |
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Did you notice that she began every answer with "first of all" and then never got to second or third of all? |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 10356
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Monday, August 7, 2006 - 10:37 pm: |
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Ever notice that Southerner's posts are the same inane posts time after time? It's really quite pathetic. I'd opt for some real right wing rhetoric over his moronic intonations. Maybe Strawberry can tutor him. It's like he's trying to find a voice by imitating someone with original thoughts, but all that comes out is pittle. |
us2inFL
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Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 1482
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 6:31 am: |
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You should have seen her live on "This Week" on ABC an hour and a half later. I watched Russert since he is seen here in FL live at 9 AM, and "This Week" live at 10:30 AM. She was noticeably more tired, and at times short tempered, seeming like she had just "said it before."
There is always that tentative quiver in her voice, and that hardly inspires confidence.
This administration is in shambles! |
Southerner
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Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1399
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 7:50 am: |
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Dave,
I love how a poster like me with nothing to say can cause you to dedicate an entire post to me. I'm flattered. I've readily admitted I say the same thing over and over. I'm simply following the rules set forth by your fellow liberal posters. They haven't had an original post since 1994. But I guess your biased view can't allow you to see it. Let's see how many "original" and "thoughtful" posts can say that Condi is tired. It appears to me that I'm the only poster on this thread who has said anything different yet you come after me. But you're not biased.
And, as you libs like to say, why not attack my post instead of the poster? Why don't you tell me how Cheneywatch, Rumsfeldwatch, Rovewatch, Bushwatch, is any different than this Condiwatch started by Sbenois? Instead you attack the poster. I wonder if you'll suspend yourself? |
llama
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Username: Llama
Post Number: 816
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 8:09 am: |
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It's nothing personal. I think it has to do with all the focus you seem to put on winning an election you somehow don't seem to comprehend the mess the so called "winners" have gotten us in to that has divided our country and makes us all look like losers to the rest of the world. |
Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1838
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 8:51 am: |
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Here’s the transcript:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14215314/
Glad folks are starting to see through Condi. Poor thing has been "BUSHwhacked" by this administration.
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Southerner
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Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1402
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:09 pm: |
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llama,
You just don't see the point. Here it is - we have two camps, one believes that as you said that the winners have gotten us into a mess, the other camp does not believe this. How do we decide which camp governs us? By elections. I like what the Bush Admin has does and is doing. And apparently so do the majority of Americans. I know you disagree and will do so with great verbosity, but words don't mean crap. Unlike your side who reaches for every opinion poll that soothes your liberal heart, I have actual proof. My camp won more electoral votes, won more Senate seats, and won more House seats, as well as Governorships. And my camp is making the decisions, while your side simply rants powerlessly.
If you can't see why elections are the most important part of governance then you will continue to lose (which I think many of you Dems enjoy).
I just want one time for you guys to put your words into action. If all the liberal verbage and the opinion polls are correct then I expect to see the Dems sweep into power. If they don't then I at least hope some of you die hard libs will finally agree with me that hysterical rants are worthless. Believe me, us Republicans learned that lesson the hard way over 40 years. I speak from experience. |
tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3800
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:14 pm: |
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Were you with Governor Wallace at the University doors? |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 854
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:16 pm: |
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A profound tulippianism.
jd |
Southerner
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Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1405
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 2:33 pm: |
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tulip,
Why would I hang out with a Democratic racist? That's your camp, not mine. Now continue your rant about an African-American. |
crabby
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Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 759
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 3:21 pm: |
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Southerner- I beg to differ with your assessment that Dave attacked you and not your words. I read it as an attack on what you say (said) (keep saying).
"Moronic intonations" "inane posts" "what comes out is pittle"
You're probably a nice guy, but your posts are just, well, dave said it already.
back to Condiwatch... |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1940
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 3:30 pm: |
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Like her boss, she's got three settings: Inane, Flusted and Angry. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6863
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 4:04 pm: |
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Thats more than Southerner though.
Condi always sounds like she is terrified that she will be found out to be intelligent. If she would just say what she believes one of two things would happen.
1) Her reputation and credibility would skyrocket
2) she would be removed from her position in the administration
cause as we have seen anyone who says what they really believe, if they are in the "administration" always seem to need more time with their family. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1820
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 4:26 pm: |
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BEN-VENISTE. Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the Aug. 6 P.D.B. warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that P.D.B.
RICE. I believe the title was Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside the United States. Now, the P.D.B. -
BEN-VENISTE. Thank you.
RICE. No, Mr. Ben-Veniste -
BEN-VENISTE. I will get into the -
RICE. I would like to finish my point here.
BEN-VENISTE. I didn't know there was a point.
RICE. Given that - you asked me whether or not it warned of attacks.
BEN-VENISTE. I asked you what the title was.
RICE. You said did it not warn of attacks. It did not warn of attacks inside the United States. It was historical information based on old reporting. There was no new threat information. And it did not, in fact, warn of any coming attacks inside the United States.
She lost any credibility with me right there and forever. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1346
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 4:46 pm: |
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There is an election in 2008 and re-fighting the past election, which is 3/4 of the threads here in political, gets you nowhere. I think Rice is in over her head, but that being said the dems have no real new ideas either except the Kerry proposed withdrawal plan, which is real trouble for any international credibility on our part.
You" progressives" should be putting together a viable plan to combat terror and ensure our national security if you want to elect like-minded candidates.
Otherwise you will just continue to find yourselves bitching about republican administrations on threads such as this.
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tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3802
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 4:48 pm: |
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We counted "status quo ante" four times in the interview with Russert. Is she trying to sound intellectual?
It literally means "as it was before"....before what??? |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 1271
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 4:56 pm: |
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tulip, I think the complete phrase is "status quo ante bellum" - ie, before the war. Yes, she seems to use it a lot. |
tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3803
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 5:14 pm: |
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mjc:
My question is then, how far back do we go before there was a war somewhere in the Middle East? |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 1273
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 5:41 pm: |
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no clue, tulip, ex-Latinist only |
sbenois
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Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15520
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 7:03 pm: |
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Dearest Southerner,
Please note that this is another quality thread started by the boys at Sbenois Engineering.
While it might not have the ooomph of the classic Bush Has F*cked This Up Beyond Belief (last year's #1 S:AP thread) or the legs of the current hit Deafening Silence on MOL on Israel-Lebanon/Hezbollah (this year's #1 S:AP in a romp), it nevertheless is worth a good look.
You're welcome. |
S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1849
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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I finally listened to the podcast and if Condi did sound annoyed it is understandable. I really enjoy "Meet the Press" and Tim overall, but the latter's questioning can be melodramatic and silly at times. I always expect his guests to say something like," now that is a stupid question..." or "Tim, can you be a little more over the top?" Condi held her ground as usual, that is why she is where she is today. Tim definitely tries to twists things when he thinks he can get away with it. He is not very good at quoting his past guests accurately or paraphrasing/comprenhending his audio clips....but i will keep on listening every week...
I really wish the liberal community would just admit they have beef with Condi because she is part of a Republican administration. If she were a democrat, most of you would be dry humping your laptops now...
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 6868
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 9:48 pm: |
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so thats what you do SLK... that explains all the pent up anger. |
S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1850
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 10:22 pm: |
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who is angry? when you deal with hordes of intelligent people who are politically stupid day in and day out, the frustation eventually catches up to you...
the state of Connecticut comes to mind right now...Lamont must be really proud close to winning an election not on his own merits but because the voters don't like his opponent over one issue....talk about small minded or short sighted take your pick....
-SLK |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 5701
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:05 pm: |
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Quote:I really wish the liberal community would just admit they have beef with Condi because she is part of a Republican administration. If she were a democrat, most of you would be dry humping your laptops now...
Hey, you caught us. You found out the real reason why we disagree with Secretary Rice.
We disagree with Ms. Rice when she pushes the Administration line because ... um, we disagree with the Administration line.
Okay, I guess I don't get your point ... |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 5424
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:10 pm: |
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Just one teeny tiny issue. Image us getting all worked up over it! After all, what's a trillion dollars and a few thousand lives?
Somewhere the ghost of the captain of the Titanic is saying, "one iceberg..." |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2233
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:30 pm: |
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From SLK 0.0 above:
"He is not very good at quoting his past guests accurately..." Which is SLK's backing off from saying, as he did high up on this thread, that Russert "misquotes his guests."
When Russert uses quotes, his staff puts the text of the quote on the screen, so that viewers can read them (including viewers, I assume, who are past guests and who would recognize it if their words were misquoted).
So, again I ask, why are there no lawsuits, no overt complaints for correction and announcements of corrections from week to week, since those misquotes on the screen would constitute misrepresentations and falsehoods?
I think that SLK 0.0 OD'd on Rush Limbaugh this week. |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 5426
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 8, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Maybe there are and the liberal media refuses to report them!  |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1825
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 8:36 am: |
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Quote:Somewhere the ghost of the captain of the Titanic is saying, "one iceberg..."
Clever. and True. |
S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1852
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 9:38 pm: |
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Yup after years of watching the show and listening to the podcast weekly since its inception, I guess I am wrong in my perception.
Yup...but remember folks, it is just my educated perception. It is alright, you can still keep yours...
-SLK
Inny, I don't listen to Rush, too long of a show and too bombast of a person (regardless if I agree with him on things).... |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2245
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 9, 2006 - 9:47 pm: |
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SLK:
Thanks for both the clarification and backing off your statement. You were right to back off.
As to listening to Rush (whom I catch because I love laughing at his "little corporal's" neo-nazi bombasts and the vicious lies he foments without even blinking), you coulda fooled me.
Kind regards. |
S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1856
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 1:19 pm: |
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who is backing off Inny unless you are being sacrcastic (surprise). I listen to the show weekly so why is my opinion and less than anyone elses? |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1848
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 1:26 pm: |
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Quote:Inny, I don't listen to Rush, too long of a show and too bombast of a person (regardless if I agree with him on things)....
Quote:I listen to the show weekly so why is my opinion and less than anyone elses?
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
Listen/Dont Listen but agree
that does not compute
that does not compute
that does not compute
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1857
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:19 pm: |
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Hoops-
Congratulations, it is nice to see you finally admit your motherboard and processor are obsolete.
-SLK |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2248
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:56 pm: |
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0.0,
No big deal. Glad to see you're consistent in whether you do or don't listen to the Limp-baugh. Of course, it's everybody's right to listen to whomever they care to. It's just that his stuff is tired, tawdry material, with a slim connection, if any, to facts.
What clued me in is that your phrasing is essentially the same as Limp-baugh's. It may be inadvertent or it just may be that you internalize his stuff hook, line, and sinker, as they say. |
S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1858
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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Inny-
Tim has the presence and the voice...that is about it.....
-SLK |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2249
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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0.0,
On that one, you either missed the point or chose to avoid it.
Your choice. Whatever...
Enjoy your continued listening to the limp one. |
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