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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3817
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:26 pm: | 
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Could the UN have brokered a peace?
Love that Koffi Annan.
Deafening silence on MOL about Cease fire....Straw? FVF? c/c/jc? Southerner?
Spinal Tap? |
Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1383
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:28 pm: |
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Clearly your understanding and reach of geopolitics is extensive. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3819
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |
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Thanks! Can you answer my question, or are you just going to make sarcastic comments to me? Clearly, you don't like peace, or anything approaching it. |
tjohn
Supporter
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4674
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:48 pm: |
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Tulip,
This cease-fire, if it holds, is only the first step in what will be a difficult process of subordinating Hezbollah to some responsible authority. The U.N. accomplished this because the U.S. and France made it so. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3821
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 6:53 pm: |
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Oh, the rest of the UN had NOTHING to do with it! How interesting!! |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3824
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:08 pm: |
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Denmark, France, Greece, Ghana, UK and US. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3825
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:08 pm: |
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Dear Dr. Rice:
Thank you. Good work. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3829
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:56 pm: |
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to peace |
Southerner
Citizen
Username: Southerner
Post Number: 1439
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:35 pm: |
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tulip,
I love this. I give this cease fire about as long a shelf life as it takes Hezbollah to fire another rocket into Israel. Of course, you won't believe it. You'll simply say Israel fired a rocket into one of its own cities so they could end the cease fire. Either way, anyone who believes this UN brokered deal will last is truly naive. Bush and Condi know this but they also have an election in a few months. I don't see any change at all. But if you want to celebrate peace then go on and enjoy it. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 15541
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:39 pm: |
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Exactly. I think this one is going to turn out to be just a TV time out in the first quarter.
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Spinal Tap
Citizen
Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 152
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:55 pm: |
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I was going to take a break from MOL because I fear I’m getting to involved (and my wife is getting ticked at me for laying in bed typing) but since you called me out Tulip I will have to respond. But thank you for doing so – I feel somehow honored.
If cease fires, treaties, negotiations, resolutions, peace plans, road maps to peace, etc, etc, etc, had any actual bearing on peace, the Middle Ease would be the most peaceful place on Earth. When faced with an implacable foe, the only way to achieve peace is to wipe them out. The only thing that was accomplished today was to guarantee that there will be yet another war between Israel and Hezbollah, with more civilians than would otherwise have been necessary, suffering and being killed. This will of course happen after Hezbollah has a chance to re-arm, re-fit, replenish its ranks, and dig in again.
Tulip – it must be nice to live in the parallel universe in which you reside where UN bureaucrats waving around pieces of paper achieve “peace”. Oh well - I’m sure the “peacekeepers” from the Republic of Bulimia, or wherever they come from, led by an 11 star general, will do a great job, and continue to justify the existence of the Useless, I mean United Nations, and their diplomats’ Upper East Side Townhouses.
P.S. – Olmert is finished
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3833
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:05 pm: |
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Gentlemen:
Apparently, you give this "peace" short shrift. Your pessimism may prove to be warranted. In the meantime, if there is a chance for peace, this night, August 11, 2006, Shabbas, at this point in the eastern US, I hope that you hear the world speak. The people of all countries want the people of Lebanon to have a homeland that is secure. This is the best way that we in the world other than yours, choose to try to make that peace. If someone chooses to foil it, it will clearly be investigated and watched, as to how the peace was broken. At least the better angels of the nature of man have a moment to shine, and certainly Woodrow Wilson would, if he could hear the United Nations at this hour, be proud of his idea and the achievement of his dream.
If peace is a dream, a fantasy, or a "parallel universe" then there is truly no hope for men and women, and children of the world.
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S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1863
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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only tulip could come up with a thread like this...
God, crack must be good out in those boonies... |
J. Crohn
Supporter
Username: Jcrohn
Post Number: 2679
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:23 pm: |
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"I’m sure the “peacekeepers” from the Republic of Bulimia, or wherever they come from, led by an 11 star general, will do a great job..."
Oh my lord, ROTFLMAO.
"P.S. – Olmert is finished"
Mmmm, maybe. Maybe not. Perhaps that honor will devolve to Peretz as Olmert saves his own political skin. Probably depends on how long it takes Hizbully to regroup.
Then again, could be that Hizzy simply sits tight, rearming massively as Iran develops nukes, and then Israel eventually goes back in pre-emptively.
I wouldn't invest in the rebuilding of Lebanon any time soon.
If Netanyahu is in charge by then, the action will be accompanied by a drive to, say, ethnically cleanse the west bank of Arabs.
Funny how everyone worries himself sick over the radicalization of Muslims, but no one ever notices how very dicey it is becoming to radicalize Israelis.
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3834
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:28 pm: |
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{f Netanyahu is in charge by then, the action will be accompanied by a drive to, say, ethnically cleanse the west bank of Arabs.
Do you support that? |
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1869
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:37 pm: |
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tulip-
peace can only be achieve when the two fighting parties strive for it.
Funny, in this case you only save criticism for the side that tried for peace.
you sympathize with a population that has no idea what peace is.
should i keep going? let me know when you are done taking your next hit...don't singe your lips now...
-SLK |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3835
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:43 pm: |
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Dave,
I consider this a personal attack.
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Factvsfiction
Citizen
Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1393
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:45 pm: |
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Spinal Tap-
Yes I too would like to live in the parallel "peace" universe in which Tulip lives.
When is the space ship arriving, Tulip?
Wait, I am hearing the theme song from "The X-Files"..... |
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1871
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:47 pm: |
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oh boy here we go...go crying to daddy....you know the ruthless reputation of MOL politics tulip, if you can't hack it stay away.... |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2953
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:47 pm: |
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What about that is personal? Oh, he's implying that you smoke dope? That's not personal it's a joke. |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2954
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:49 pm: |
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The only "personal attack" is J. Crohn's suggestion that Netanyahu is a Nazi. |
tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3836
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:49 pm: |
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Bye bye fellas. Seems you come out at night to play. It's a full moon. Go ahead. Have your fun. |
S.L.K. 2.0
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1872
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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now we can expect her to criticize "all maplewoodians" because we are gaining up on her...she is too predictable....
and oh, i was implying she smokes crack, not dope....
she doesn't?
-SLK
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tulip
Citizen
Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 3837
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:52 pm: |
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SLK, no, I don't. Good night. |
Spinal Tap
Citizen
Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 153
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 7:31 am: |
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The fact that the Bush administration is complicit in this farce illustrates how far they have fallen from the heady days of the 2004 State of the Union when the president declared:
“As long as the Middle East remains a place of tyranny and despair and anger, it will continue to produce men and movements that threaten the safety of America and our friends. So America is pursuing a forward strategy of freedom in the greater Middle East. We will challenge the enemies of reform, confront the allies of terror, and expect a higher standard from our friend.”
Maybe the Realists will win the day after all.
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Spinal Tap
Citizen
Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 154
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 7:56 am: |
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Does anyone know the status of the UN renovations? Last I heard they were running the project themselves which guarantees that it will make the Big Dig look like a model of efficiency and that costs will over run in the billions, most of which the U.S. will of course pay for. They had some crazy plan, that I saw Donald Trump ridiculing, to relocate most or all of their personnel to temporary office space in Brooklyn or Queens while this was happening. Since the project will never be finished and there aren’t as many 5 Star restaurants on the other side of the East River, I am hoping they eventually just leave and go to Paris, or Geneva, or Bulimia,
Recently I saw some funny study somewhere where some researchers determined that there is a direct correlation between how much money a UN member nation owed the city in parking fines and the level of corruption in that country. But I guess they have moral authority.
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