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Strawberry
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/goodwin/


libs are morons.

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The3ofUs
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh good, now we ALL can be Republicans just like you. Oh joy, oh rapture.
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tjohn
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps, but I'll put more stock in Anon's observation that the probability of re-election to a 4th term is statistically low and Bill Jack's observation that people in Connecticut are just tired of Lieberman's sanctimony.
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Hoops
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the funny thing about this is that in 2000 after the republicans came in the concensus in the media (and to many republicans who post here) was that the democrats were out of step with the country and needed to change direction.

I'd say this is a very good start.
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tom
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ah more lies and obfuscation from the one-party-rule crowd. Let's see. 60% of Americans polled are against the war. So what exactly is it we're drifting into?

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Now the party kicks him aside for sticking with his support for the war against Islamic fascism.


So now the war in Iraq was about Islamic fascism? That must be reason 397 so far.

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Every incident, including the huge airliner plot busted in London last week, gets twisted into an argument against Bush instead of a concern about the threat facing all Americans.


Wow, talk about twisted. It was the right-wing talking heads, starting with Cheney, who immediately started using the London plot against Democrats -- even the same day the arrests came in.

I won't even start in on the nonsensical position that Lieberman's defeat was due solely to his war position. The very fact that the worst of the right-wingers are falling all over themselves to defend him says all we need to know about where Joe's politics in general had ended up.
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Nuff Sayid
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..any party that has eleanor clift as a member can take a hike to no return... please, someone shut her up!
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anon
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As distinguished from Ann Coulter?
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anon
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way Lieberman is still a Democrat and Harry Reid has said that he retains all of his committee assignments, etc.

Howard Fineman said that it wouldn't be the strangest thing if the Senate ends up 50/50 with Joe L. as the swing vote.
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Southerner
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anon,
If the Senate is 50/50 then Cheney has the swing vote. Unless, of course I'm missing something and Connecticut will elect 3 Senators.

And tom,
I love your dedication to the polls. I love booths more, but watching your fetish on this board is interesting viewing.
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tom
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well whether it's a fetish or not, the question stands: Right-wingers are claiming that Lieberman's loss indicates the Dems' drift into something; Polls show, though, that this "thing" in fact comprises some 60% of the population. What is it we're drifting into?
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why on earth would the Democrats give a rat's what Republicans think is good for them (or bad, for that matter)? the only stupid thing the Dems could do would be to listen to right wing nuts who purport know what's good for them.
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anon
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southerner: You are right but what Fineman probably meant is suppose the Dems win 50 seats, the GOP wins 49 and Joe as an independent wins. Does he vote with the Dems and give them 51 or with the GOP and let Cheney make 51? It would depend on the issue and would give Joe lots of power.
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Nohero
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That Michael Goodwin column that was cited at the top of this thread was one of the stupiest things I've read lately.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess you missed some of Kathleen's writings today.
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Dave
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Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could not passing this signal the end of the Republican party?



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To ensure the safety of passengers aboard aircraft that also carries cargo.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

November 17, 2005

Mr. MARKEY (for himself and Mr. SHAYS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Homeland Security

A BILL

To ensure the safety of passengers aboard aircraft that also carries cargo.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Safe Skies Cargo Inspection Act'.

SEC. 2. INSPECTION OF CARGO CARRIED ABOARD PASSENGER AIRCRAFT.

Section 44901 of title 49, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by redesignating subsections `(g)' and `(h)' as subsections `(h)' and `(i)', respectively; and

(2) by inserting after subsection (f) the following:

`(g) Air Cargo on Passenger Aircraft-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish a system to inspect all cargo transported on passenger aircraft to ensure the security of all passenger aircraft carrying cargo operated by an air carrier or foreign air carrier in air transportation or intrastate air transportation.

`(2) MINIMUM STANDARDS- The system referred to in paragraph (1) shall, at a minimum, require that--

`(A) equipment, technology, and personnel meets the same standards established to inspect passenger baggage;

`(B) one-third of cargo carried on passenger aircraft is inspected before Thanksgiving Day of the first year after the date of enactment of this subsection;

`(C) two-thirds of cargo carried on passenger aircraft is inspected before Thanksgiving Day of the second year after the date of enactment of this subsection; and

`(D) all cargo carried on passenger aircraft is inspected before Thanksgiving Day of the third year after the date of enactment of this subsection.'.

END


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tom
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Needless to say, the Republicans haven't let it out of committee; I can't tell that they've even discussed it.
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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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`(B) one-third of cargo carried on passenger aircraft is inspected before Thanksgiving Day of the first year after the date of enactment of this subsection;




Doesnt it take until Thanksgiving for the airlines to find your luggage anyway?
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Southerner
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr.,
You make a good point. My only slight variation is I agree don't listen to words because they are worthless. The Dems should watch the Repubs actions and then determine what they should do differently to win.

anon,
Your point is well taken but we all know the answer. If the Dems win 50 seats and Joe wins as an independent then the Dems will control Congress, meaning the Committee Chairmanships. Joe has pretty much said this. This is where the real power is - who controls the agenda.

As for individual votes, Joe won't make much difference and if it is 51/49 then you will see a lot of windbags on both sides believing they hold the power. Remember, their a quite a few conservative Dems (from down my way) and several liberal Repubs, so you can't count on straight party lines on any one vote. In my opinion the only thing that really matters is who runs the committees because that is the point where legislation can be killed or at least buried.

As for the topic of this thread - in no way is this the end of the Democratic Party. I sure hope it isn't. We need more parties not fewer ones. However, the end of the Democratic Party as the superpower party ended with my fellow Georgian Jimmy Carter. Now they must either share power or watch someone else yield it. I have no doubt eventually the majority of Dems will again espouse the views of the American people and not just the loud crowd. It will take awhile, but this isn't the end.
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joel dranove
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 6:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

from privatepigg, of all bloggers, and incisive as to the GWOT, which is denied by too many dems, and repubs.

And Senator Reid:

"Terrorism remains the greatest threat to our security," said Harry Reid, the
top Democrat in the US Senate. "As a result of mismanagement and the wrong
funding priorities, we are not as safe as we should be."

Again, this right after the plot has been foiled. He continues:

"The Iraq war has diverted our focus and more than 300 billion dollars in resources from the war on terrorism and has created a rallying cry for international terrorists," Reid charged.
"This latest plot demonstrates the need for the Bush administration and the Congress to change course in Iraq and ensure that we are taking all the steps necessary to protect Americans at home and across the world."

Uh, September 11th happened before the Iraq War. So did the Iranian hostage crisis, the killing of William Buckley, the Beirut embassy bombings, the Beirut barracks bombings, the Kuwait embassy bombings, the second Beirut embassy bombings, the hijacking of Kuwait airlines planes, the hijacking of TWA Flight 847, the seizing of the Achille Lauro, the Rome and Vienna airports bombings, the German disco bombings, Pan Am Flight 103 bombings over Lockerbie, Scotland, the first World Trade Center bombing, the failed attempt to blow up the UN and FBI buildings in New York, the barracks bombings in Saudi Arabia, the Khobar Towers military complex bombing, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania bombings, the USS Cole bombing, etc. And now we've foiled a number of attacks since 9/11.

But that's not good enough for Democrats. Winning elections is more important than the safety of our nation. They'll tear down our troops ajeopardizeize the safety of 3millionion Americans for the chance to win a few more votes. They'll call a victory a defeat and downplay all successes, all to gain a political advantage.

Americans have a pretty clear choice when it comes to selecting a party to lead the charge against the barbarians. Americans have thusfar made the right decisions in all national elections so far. The Lieberman defeat and the foiled plot in Britain are just two more examples of why the US needs to stick with tough Republican leadership through these times. The Democrats are just plain wrong.
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Strawberry
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 8:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Harry Reid, pound for pound may be the dumbest Senator in the history of American politics. The guy makes Daschile seem intelligent.
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anon
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 8:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ever hear of Senator Bilbo?
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Strawberry
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both are dangerous because of stupidity. Good comparison though.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you've never heard of Jim Bunning?

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In April 2006, he was selected by Time as one of "America's Five Worst Senators." The magazine dubbed him "The Underperformer" for his "lackluster performance", noting he "shows little interest in policy unless it involves baseball", and criticized his hostility towards staff and fellow Senators and his "bizarre behavior" during his 2004 campaign.

It has been suggested that Senator Bunning suffers from dementia, explaining his odd behavior on the campaign trail in 2004.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bunning



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tom
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dranove says, too many Dems deny the war on terror, and to prove it he quotes Harry Reid as saying "Terrorism remains the greatest threat to our security."

Wow, impressive. Hard to argue with that reasoning.

Do you actually read the stuff you post, or are you just copying-and-pasting something that comes in from mind-control central?

Tearing down our troops? How about this, from a friend-of-a-friend whom I trust implicitly

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This is an old story, just being replayed. First, the government drafts, or nowadays entices, young people to join the service. To join one must pass a strict physical exam and background check, and must also be verified to be in good mental health (no comments from me on that one right now).

So, military service, especially, say, in a sandy hot country where everyone is shooting at you all of the time might be a tad stressful, eh? But never fear, the government is looking out for these fine soldiers.

Now check this out, from the Colorado Springs Independent:
The Independent also found soldiers were discharged at a rate three times higher than before start of the Iraq war for "personality disorder," which experts consider a rare condition. A soldier diagnosed with a personality disorder receives no medical retirement benefits from the military.

Now, a personality disorder is something that a person is supposedly born with. Hmm, presumably the military wouldn't be taking in people with personality disorders, right (no laughter here)? Personality disorders are not compensable under the veterans benefits system though, so they are a cheaper out.

On the other hand, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is compensable, and it results from things like being exposed to stress, like people trying to kill you.

Now this is something I have a bit of experience with, having been diagnosed by the military (unbeknownst to me) with something called "Transient Situational Personality Disorder." That diagnosis was used to prevent me from receiving veterans benefits. It's a ficticious diagnosis: one which has never existed, according to the American Psychiatric Association, and it's amusing to consider, since a personality disorder cannot by definition be transient, or situational.

What's not so funny is that the government is still doing this to military personnel today. Isn't it bad enough that that soldiers are being shot at by other soldiers in a place they don't belong? Does our own government have to shoot at them too?




Does that make you a proud American, strawberry et al, that your government is playing these troops for fools, making up fake names to call illnesses so that they can further cut veterans' benefits to pay for their tax cuts?
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Hoops
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Support our Troops.


Bring them home.
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Southerner
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Support the Democratic Party.

Vote Repubican.
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sbenois
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to see any other Senator pitch a perfect game.

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