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     sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15571 Registered: 10-2001  |
Latest poll Joe 49, Lamont 38. http://newsradio88.com/pages/70199.php?contentType=4&contentId=189824 Can't wait until Hillary and Harry and all the rest come crawling back to be his pal again. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2370 Registered: 8-2003  |
Lamont had 27% in the same poll a month ago. woo-hoo! I feel the Joementum! | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 12419 Registered: 5-2001 |
S, on this I agree with you. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7719 Registered: 10-2001 |
Years ago I worked on Joe's campaign when he first ran for Senator. Wonderful, decent, brilliant man. This is great news for the Democratic party and for America. Defeating the radical lib left moronic bloggers is so important for a number a reasons. One, we need more, not less Liebermans and two, we need less not more radical lib morons thinking they can make a difference. A likely victory for intelligent Americans. That's what this poll tells us. Radical libs are idiots. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 3894 Registered: 3-2004  |
Warmongering, high-handed holier than thou, hiding behind religion, stealing from education to fund the war-machine, stealing from poor children to fund the war-machine, knownothing right-wingers are idiots. PS Any time I cited polls in the 2002 election, and those polls showed a close race, those on this thread who are now citing polls said they held no stock in them. Hah! Polls are only good for them when they say what they want to hear....surprise? I think not. | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2371 Registered: 8-2003 |
This poll is actually not great news for Lieberman. It shows what his ceiling is. That 49% is the best he can do, and from here forward as voters get to know the other two candidates, he has nowhere to go but down. After 18 years, CT voters know who he is, and half of them don't plan to vote for him. Schlesinger is at 4% in that poll. The only way Lieberman can win is if Schlesinger drops out or doesn't bother to campaign, since most of his support is coming from Republicans. Every percentage point gained by Schlesinger is going to come from Lieberman. If the Republican candidate can even poll 10%, Joe's going to be in trouble. Also, 95% of CT voters have already formed an opinion on Lieberman, but 26% still don't know enough about Lamont to form an opinion. Undoubtedly Lamont will pick up some support from people who learn about him over the next few months. More importantly, on Election Day you need to get your supporters to vote. Lamont will have the Democratic and Labor GOTV efforts on Election Day. You don't win elections in August, and if I was Joe, I wouldn't be feeling all that confident at this point. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7720 Registered: 10-2001 |
"You don't win elections in August, and if I was Joe, I wouldn't be feeling all that confident at this point." He's up by 11 points and O'Boggie thinks that's bad news for Joe. libs.  Tulip needs to stop posting. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 3895 Registered: 3-2004 |
Even the standard, stock, news media admit that Lamont has made enormous gains over the past few months. There's no reason to believe the trend will not continue. In any case, Republicans are toast in September. Strawberry will be jam. Jam and toast, perfect together. | ||
| sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15572 Registered: 10-2001 |
When Joe wins, he ought to tell Hillary to drop dead. Same with Harry "Pound for Pound The Dumbest" Reid. I wonder if there is a fundraiser planned for Lieberman around here. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1958 Registered: 5-2001 |
If Joe loses, do you think he'll lock himself in his office? | ||
| sbenois Supporter Username: Sbenois Post Number: 15573 Registered: 10-2001 |
I guess we'll never know. | ||
| dave23 Citizen Username: Dave23 Post Number: 1959 Registered: 5-2001 |
Could be. The Repubs are doing all they can to make sure that seat stays blue. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5551 Registered: 5-2001 |
This seems like an incredibly dangerous game for Republicans. Lieberman has already committed to caucus with the Dems, and it's entirely possible at this point -- only if you've drank gallons of Kool-Aid could you deny it -- that the Dems could take the Senate. With control comes committee chairs, of more importantly subpoena power. There's a lot more at stake than just the future conduct of the war. What is the plan here? | ||
| Dr. Winston O'Boogie Citizen Username: Casey Post Number: 2372 Registered: 8-2003 |
the GOP can replace Schlesinger on the ballot as late as October, as long as he steps aside voluntarily. the strategy is clear - prop up Lieberman so he can inflict as much damage on Lamont as possible, and deny all support to Schlesinger. When the polls show Schlesinger at single digits in late September, they offer him a job in DC or a promise of support in a House race in '08 so he drops off the ballot. At that point they nominate a strong Republican who takes most of Joe's support, and take on Lamont who will have been beaten up for 3 months by Lieberman. it still may not be enough, but it's their best shot - a lot better than trying to ride Schlesinger to a win in November. Lieberman is going to be their tool. | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1463 Registered: 2-2004 |
Who cares about Connecticut!! A blue seat is a blue seat regardless. Having a nut case like Lamont in there would due wonders for my neo-con agenda. tulip, I agree with you, the Repubs are toast come September. But we all know what happens in November! As for polls, they are worthless except they give many of you something to take your mind off your consistent beatings. | ||
| tulip Citizen Username: Braveheart Post Number: 3902 Registered: 3-2004 |
Sbenois: If Joe wins, Hillary the hawkette has a chance after all. Southerner: Yup, jam and toast, and they'll take the beatings this time!!! | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5564 Registered: 5-2001 |
Well I Love how cons keep trying to paint Lamont as a whacko. Why? Because he's against the war. How many Americans are also against the war? Most of them. The real whackos are the ones who still support it! | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 12425 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think the current state of the GOP in Connecticut is pretty weak. Both the GOP Congressmen (who are popular) are up for reelection and I doubt the Governor, who is widely liked and respected, would jump into a three way race he is almost sure to lose. Joe has to fight the perception that he is a turncoat by running as an independent. If he can convince ten or fifteen percent of the Dem voters that he isn't, he will win. If he can't Lamont will win. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 2032 Registered: 7-2004  |
Southerner suffers from condition known as fan syndrome. Generally speaking, of course, it usually hits the hardest on people with weak minds and nothing much going on in their lives, probably as a result of living in the middle of nowhere. They therefore are forced to glom onto say, sports teams, celebrities, or in Southerner's case, politicians, to get a dose of self-worth and to feel a part of something bigger than themselves because, really, that is all they have. Mark David Chapman had fan syndrome. So did John Hinckley Jr. They would probably LOVE this, too! | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1470 Registered: 2-2004 |
I suffer from the right philosophy syndrome. It usually inflicts people who win elections and control the agenda. | ||
| Foj Citizen Username: Foger Post Number: 1699 Registered: 9-2004 |
27 Senate endorsements ... so far. http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e164/bobgeiger/Dems_for_Lamont_081806.jpg | ||
| Southerner Citizen Username: Southerner Post Number: 1473 Registered: 2-2004 |
Foj, Where have you been? Your growing on me and even though you are a complete nut, you understand macro-political thought so I can at least rationally discuss with you. | ||
| Dave Supporter Username: Dave  Post Number: 10535 Registered: 4-1997  |
Southerner has been suspended for the personal attack. | ||
| Strawberry Supporter Username: Strawberry Post Number: 7731 Registered: 10-2001 |
Will the South rise again? | ||
| The3ofUs Citizen Username: The3ofus Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2006 |
What was the personal attack? Was it deleted? | ||
| Foj Citizen Username: Foger Post Number: 1701 Registered: 9-2004 |
LOL, I had to re-read Southerners post, I didnt get it at first. I think Southerner was, in his own, way, acknowledging my abscence of a couple of weeks, and was welcoming me back. Only because I am a complete nut, to use Southerners words. More important is the Zogby poll that takes Lamonts issues, like Universal Healthcare, the Deficit, the Iraqi war.... and shows the support from mainstream America... Nationally DEMs embrace these issues, these are mainstream issues. Lamont knows this, thats what he is running on. You see.. Lamont is a mainstream candidate. And I think he has the winning ticket. Now that Lamont has staked out the middle of the road, Joe is left out on the extreme right. That puts Joe in an untenable position. Additionally: In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic party: 1. 65 percent (of ALL Americans, Democrats AND Republicans) say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes. 2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives"). 3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich. 4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes. 5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment. 6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels. 7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down." http://alternet.org/wiretap/29788 / Now if 66% to 86% of Americans vote for these issues, 3/4's of Congress will be DEM by next January. The House would be about 320 "D" to 135 "R", while the senate would be 74 "D" to 23 "R" with 2 "I", Jeffords and Sanders. And Nancy Leposi will be President by this time next year. Ahh... I can dream can't I Thats what the game, as Southerner puts it, is all about. The "R"s are facing losing control of everything. But winning elections and running the agenda, as Southerner puts it.... still leaves governing..... And since voters prefer DEMs on National security, the economy, healthcare, womens rights, civil rights, Gay rights, voting rights... etc etc etc..... I would hope the "R"s have an ace in the hole.. maybe martial law.., or those pesky voting machines. And Nancy Leposi will be President by this time next year. Ahh... I can dream can't I ? | ||
| Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 12437 Registered: 5-2001 |
If Lamont tries to run on mainstream Dem issues such as health care and the minimum wage he will be beaten. His views are no different than Lieberman's in any significant way. Trying to squeeze Joe into an elephant suit isn't going to work. Lamont is a one issue candidate and that issue is Iraq. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3776 Registered: 5-2004  |
I disagree. If Lamont offers the same values as a credible "Democratic" opponent, but differs on what many people consider a core issue for the Senate, then he can absolutely win. It's if he goes for a left-wing agenda, with opposing views to Lieberman on all issues, that he will lose. While Connecticut is a fairly Democratic state, it's not a "very liberal" Democratic state. | ||
| Foj Citizen Username: Foger Post Number: 1706 Registered: 9-2004 |
BobK. Lamont DID run on those issues and DID beat Joe in the Primary. That makes it a winning strategy. But you say it is a losing strategy come Nov. Why would it be any different come Nov? Come on, give us a view into your crystal ball. If Joe continues his "Neds a lib" "fringe element"...attacks, Lamont wins big in Nov. Big, like 15 to 20 points. Rastro, you are probably on the mark with your comments. I would offer this.. These are mainstream issues, not DEM Issues. These issues carry an overwhelming plurality across the country. Lamont, by championing these issues, has appealed to all voters in CT. CT, unlike many states, has a large unaligned block, Independants. Lamont, by appealing to DEMs, Repubs, & Indies... is likely to peel off many of the old time cloth coat republicans. Lamont will pull many of the Indie voters too. That leaves Joe with table scraps. Additionally, there is a country wide throw the bums out tide. This applies to Dems & Repubs. The best way for the DEMs to keep that Senate seat, is with a mainstream candidate, not a conservative Bush supporter. One big difference... BOBK... Cheney doesnt call Joe, "Al Queda candidate", like he called Lamont. Thats probably worth 5% in the next poll. | ||
| Foj Citizen Username: Foger Post Number: 1711 Registered: 9-2004 |
Lieberman and Lamont Tied in Connecticut Joe Lieberman and Ned Lamont are in a statistical tie in the race for United States Senate in Connecticut according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. Among likely voters in November, 44% say they would vote for Lieberman, 42% say they would vote for Lamont, 3% say they would vote for Alan Schlesinger, and 11% are undecided. Lieberman leads Lamont 57% to 18% among enrolled Republicans and 48% to 38% among unaffiliated (independent) voters. Lamont leads Lieberman 65% to 30% among enrolled Democrats. 41% have an unfavorable opinion of Lieberman, and 34% have an unfavorable opinion of Lamont. http://americanresearchgroup.com/ctsenate / LOL----- 18% of Republicans favor Lamont.......... LOL | ||
| notehead Supporter Username: Notehead Post Number: 3745 Registered: 5-2001  |
Well, his father was a Republican who served in the Nixon administration. At least 18% of Republicans in CT ought to appreciate that. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5608 Registered: 5-2001 |
The right would have you believe that it's far more important what his great-grandfather did. Show of hands -- anyone here have any recollection of any of their great-grandparents? | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 5824 Registered: 8-2003 |
NY Times says principled left-net-nuts fear taking on Hillary for her war position which is identical to Lieberman. Courage is overrated anyway. | ||
| tom Citizen Username: Tom Post Number: 5609 Registered: 5-2001 |
Her war position may be similar, but she doesn't share Liberman's sucking-up-to-Bush position. | ||
| Foj Citizen Username: Foger Post Number: 1795 Registered: 9-2004 |
Sep 3, 7:34 PM EDT Former Lieberman allies rally around Lamont at party picnic By STEPHANIE REITZ Associated Press Writer EAST HADDAM, Conn. (AP) -- Connecticut's Democrats had most of the staples at their summer picnic Sunday - pasta salad, burgers and speeches about serving blue-collar workers and taking back the governor's seat. But one longtime fixture of Democratic party gatherings was absent: U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, the party's former vice presidential candidate. While he stayed out of the public eye Sunday, political allies with whom he'd campaigned and served for decades - including fellow U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd - cheered on his Democratic opponent, Greenwich millionaire Ned Lamont, with the same adoration they once showered upon Lieberman. >snip< Lieberman and Lamont have been courting groups for their endorsements and, more importantly, trying to win the support of the tens of thousands of unaffiliated voters whose ballots could determine the outcome of the November election. Meanwhile, Schlesinger has tried to boost the single-digit support shown for him in recent opinion polls. The Green Party, Concerned Citizens party and Independent Party of Connecticut also are fielding candidates. ---- http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CT_CONNECTICUT_SENATE_CTOL-?SITE=CTNH R&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-09-03-19-34-26 |
