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Face
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Post Number: 353
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting words from John Edwards yesterday:

"I want a president who will stand up and fight for us, not one that will fight other politicians."

Please note that this comment was made by Edwards at the very same time that the Kerry campaign is making plans to focus on what they consider to be the "failures" of George Bush for the next week or so.

In fact, look at Kerry's comments made yesterday.

Is anyone really listening? Does anybody really care?
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Sylad
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was, I was very curious to see what they would say. Not impressive. The Kerry campaign is in major trouble. They are not in control of the message, they are in respond and react mode.

The GOP is on message and in control of the direction.
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Wendyn
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't care.

All I care about is that Bush lied to the American people, went to war to earn money for his cronies and diverted troops from capturing the terrorists who caused 9/11, created the largest deficit in history, tried to force his religious beliefs on the American people, tried to pass an amendment based on discrimination, and in general is an a**hole.

I can't imagine any human, except maybe Pat Buchannan, for whom I would be less likely to vote.
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entertainer
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush flip-flops:

Mission accomplished...
Mission miscalculated...
Mission Impossible...
Oops, Mission Possible again...
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Heybub
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Poor Wendyn, still clinging to that Bush lied mantra like a Titanic deck chair. Keep treading water Wendyn, only 61 days to go.
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Dave
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This must be part of the right's attempt to portray Democrats as effeminate because they think being a woman or gay is a bad thing. From Zell Miller's admiration of Bush's "steel backbone" to Arnold's oh-so-clever "girlie men" reference, homophobia, misogyny and Freudian symbolism could be found throughout Republican rhetoric at the convention.

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Wendyn
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bub, you are right (pun intended). Bush didn't lie. My sister (a Texan) reminded me that Iraq was the base of the terrorists who caused 9/11 and was poised to attack us any minute when Bush declared war.

I'm glad Fox News is doing such a great job reporting the truth.
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Earlster
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd say get over with it, if it was lying about a little action below the belt line, but Bush's lies killed more then a 1000 Americans, many thousand Iraqis and many this world a more dangerous place.

Time for him to step up to the plate and resign. Since this won't happen it's time for us to show him what a good snake leather boot can be used for.

He is trying to make 9/11 his own, so give it to him and show him how bad he f*&#ed it up. He keeps bringing it up, Wendyn isn't clinging to it.
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Mark Fuhrman
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wendyn: At least Buchanan is upfront about what he believes, I'll give him that. President Bush tries to look moderate at the convention but his actions are not.

pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
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singlemalt
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's politics. Bush is painted as a moderate when he is a conservative and Kerry is painted as a moderate when he is liberal. It's all a game right now to attract independents and moderates from the other side.
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sbenois
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kerry is a lightweight. Edwards is a lighter weight. This ticket is so uninspiring, so weak, and so boring, that it's thisclose to being worse than Mondale-Ferraro.

Maybe Michael Moorse can do his next film on the ultra left who are costing Kerry the election. He only needs to turn on the camcorder, walk into his bathroom and shine it in the mirror.

By the way, big ups to the NYPD for keeping the loonies in check. Many people thought that a terrorist attack during this convention was a real possibility. As it turns out, nothing happened and that's got to add to Bush's post convention glow.







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DrFalomar
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Furman

I agree. Buchanan can actually craft an argument without resorting to cliches and built on logic and facts (unless immigrants are involved, then he goes around the twist). You know what you're getting with Pat. Who knows what the hell you're getting with Bush.
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anon
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush has been in office almost 4 years. You know exactly what you are getting.

With Buchanan you are getting a racist anti-semite.
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sbenois
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly. This is what makes you so smart Anon.
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llama
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 7:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you think you can predict when a terrorist attack is going to happen you have been conditioned and are just plain ignorant.
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NRL
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guiliani put it ever so well last night in an interview with Gretta Van Susdren. If there were
9 reasons to eject Saddam. 8 were found and one unfounded. That (1) one of course is the WMD. 8 to 1. Saddam had to go. It was only a matter of time before number 9 became a reality based on Saddams track record and arrogance.

BUSH DIDNT LIE YOU JUST WERENT LISTENING.
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John Davenport
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Posted on Friday, September 3, 2004 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, this Democratic candidate is not running on a vigorous agenda like Clinton did, and that is hurting. But Bush is so ridiculously bad that one would think any public that wasn't totally brainwashed by the media would be ready to vote for anyone halfway reliable rather than him. Ergo, the public really is totally brainwashed at this point. The Republican party sympathizers control most small local media, and some big networks, and they have even poor people thinking that they should vote for Bush because rich people pay too high a percentage of total federal taxes, even some minorities ready to vote for Bush because he is against gay marriage. We'll see what happens, but if we re-elect this guy, after the 2000 elections hijacking by the Supreme Court, most of the rest of the civilized world will write us off, and some intelligentia will even begin packing their bags to look for other nationalities. That there is even a chance of Kerry losing shows just how nutty the American public has become. The promise that democracy had as a system of government always depended on an electorate informed by an objective media independent of vested interests, and that dream is almost dead now.

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