| Author | Message | ||
     sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 11825 Registered: 10-2001  |
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/08/24/russia.planecrash/index.html | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 1410 Registered: 5-2001  |
Oh man... that's spooky. Nobody has claimed responsibility yet, as far as I can tell. But two crashes so close together is clearly very suspicious. | ||
| TED NUGENT Citizen Username: Nails Post Number: 304 Registered: 7-2004  |
it could have been a collision in mid-air due to controller error. | ||
| Debby Real Name Username: Debby Post Number: 966 Registered: 5-2001 |
No - the article says that they crashed seperately, in different locations. Also that the first plane exploded before crashing. | ||
| TED NUGENT Citizen Username: Nails Post Number: 308 Registered: 7-2004 |
ouch! | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 1412 Registered: 5-2001 |
According to CNN, one of the planes apparently reported a hijacking in progress before crashing. | ||
| Dave Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 7996 Registered: 4-1998  |
My guess is Chechen terrorists. | ||
| Debby Real Name Username: Debby Post Number: 969 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mine, too. The simultaneous attacks smacks of a Quaeda connection. | ||
| Duncan Real Name Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 2716 Registered: 12-2001  |
Except on the radio not ten minutes ago the official Russian stance was that it was not a terrorist event, most likely bad fuel. Based on a preliminary look at the wreckage. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 972 Registered: 6-2003  |
Unless Russian air traffic control has improved substantially since the late 80's, it's conceivable that the plane was simply brought in too low and crashed on the approach. | ||
| J. Crohn Citizen Username: Jcrohn Post Number: 1558 Registered: 3-2003 |
Bad fuel? What's that, the revenge of Kodorkhovsky? | ||
| Duncan Real Name Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 2720 Registered: 12-2001 |
I have no idea, just what I heard on the radio as a possible cause. | ||
| J. Crohn Citizen Username: Jcrohn Post Number: 1559 Registered: 3-2003 |
Duncan: it was a joke. But for an interesting analysis of the Yukos thing, see: http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/duarte/2004/0113.html | ||
| John Roberts Citizen Username: Undertaxed Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2004 |
Bad fuel would have caused trouble for more than 2 planes and they would not have exploded in mid air within a minute of each other over 30 minutes into flight. Bad fuel would not explain the hijack distress calls either. It is clearly terrorism but Putin does not want to admit it. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2201 Registered: 8-2003 |
AP reports via Russian sources that the second plane sent a hijack signal before it disappeared from radar and contact. | ||
| Debby Real Name Username: Debby Post Number: 984 Registered: 5-2001 |
Explosives have been discovered in the wreckage of one of the planes: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040827/ap_on_re_eu/russia_pl ane_crash&cid=518&ncid=716 | ||
| Duncan Real Name Username: Duncanrogers Post Number: 2728 Registered: 12-2001 |
J. Crohn.. what was a joke? I heard on the radio that at the time they thought it was not a terrorist event and that it may have been bad jet fuel. Unfortunately after looking at the evidence longer they have determined that at least one of the planes was brought down by terrorists. I dont know who you think I am or what you thought I was posting but I dont joke about stuff like that, and I dare say the news I was listening to thought they were reporting a joke. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 3662 Registered: 5-2001  |
Duncan, JC was admitting to you that her first post was a joke. | ||
| J. Crohn Citizen Username: Jcrohn Post Number: 1567 Registered: 3-2003 |
Duncan: My sarcasm about Khdorkhovsky's revenge must have been lost on you because you are completely unaware that Russian authorities are currently trying an oligarch by the name of Mikhail Khodorkhovsy who owned controlling shares in Yukos, the country's largest (or second largest, after Sibneft, I don't really know) OIL COMPANY. The trial is seen in the west, and among youth in Russia, too, as Putin's effort to regain state control over major industries. The notion that "bad fuel" caused the crashes was patently silly. It was almost as if the next absurdity Putin's government would come up with would be, "It was sabotage from Yukos! Khodorkhovsky is directing his loyalists from behind bars!", when obviously, the most likely cause of the crashes was Islamist terror that the authoritarian-minded Russians have simply failed to crush, or otherwise prevent. | ||
| J. Crohn Citizen Username: Jcrohn Post Number: 1568 Registered: 3-2003 |
Oh, and by the way, the group that has claimed responsibility for the crashes, the "Islambouli Brigades," takes its name from the Egyptian who assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981. That assassination, which Sadat earned for signing a peace treaty with Israel, was the work of the Ikhwan, a.k.a, Muslim Brotherhood, which was subsequently outlawed in Egypt and Syria, but has in recent years become more moderate at home while its most violent adherents, such as (Qaeda #2 man) Ayman al Zawahiri, have been forced to go abroad. Chechen hijackers may or may not have been among those on the planes, but this operation looks so far as though it was al Qaeda-related. |
