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Sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 776
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check out this link:

http://www.drudgereport.com/dncg.htm


XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE SEPT 07, 2004 11:46:05 ET XXXXX

KERRY COSPONSORED BILL BANNING GUN HE WAVES

Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry was seen this weekend touting a gun which would have been banned if legislation he co-sponsored became law!

Kerry co-sponsored S. 1431 last year (“The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003) which would have banned a "semiautomatic shotgun that has a pistol grip.”

Kerry was presented with the gun during a Labor Day stop in Racine, West Virginia.

"I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me," Kerry told a cheering crowd as he held up the device.

Photos show Kerry's hand resting on the semiautomatic shotgun's pistol grip.

Kerry's bill would ban millions of semi-automatics, including those with "pistol grips." [Section SEC. 2; (H) (ii)]

Opponents of the bill successfully argued how nearly all guns have "pistol grips," inluding millions of Browning Auto-5 shotguns produced since 1903.
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singlemalt
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Post Number: 340
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 12:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm. Kerry was presented with that gun and did not go through a background check or file the proper change of ownership on a fire arm.
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jjkatz
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Post Number: 201
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you know that? The quoted portion of the article doesn't say anything about that, not that I'd take anything from the Sludge Report at face value anyway....
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Madden 11
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Username: Madden_11

Post Number: 174
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He's also against tax cuts that greatly enrich him and his family. It's called "placing the public interest above your own selfish interests."
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Face
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Post Number: 365
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 1:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. Kerry will not even surpass the 45.7% of the popular vote Michael Dukakis got in 1988.
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 76
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 1:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's super terrific, Face. Can you please post the results of the World Series, Super Bowl, NCAA Tournament and Kentucky Derby so I can call my bookie?
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Sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 777
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Red Sox
Eagles
NCAA Hoops--Duke
Derby is tough, cause we dont know the field, check back in mid april
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 77
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Place all those bets now, Sylad, and you're certain to be a multi-millionaire. Perhaps, even a billionaire!
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Sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 778
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just throwing you a bone.

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Mark Fuhrman
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Username: Mfpark

Post Number: 593
Registered: 9-2001


Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 4:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Red Sox? Doesn't create much confidence in you predictions for President Bush winning.
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cjc
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Post Number: 2327
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 - 9:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you lose on those bets, Sylad, you can always try cattle futures. I've heard you can just read the Wall Street Journal and do very, very well.
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Sylad
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Username: Sylad

Post Number: 785
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 - 8:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't you worry about me or my Red Sox boys.

Focus on your boy Kerry. The probably thinks the Sox are leading the East.

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bobk
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Post Number: 6068
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 - 8:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are pistol grips and then there are pistol grips. It is how you define them. I think the ban concerned weapons such as the M-16 (and its civilian offsprings) that have a true pistol type grip below the receiver.
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thegoodsgt
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Post Number: 591
Registered: 2-2002


Posted on Wednesday, September 8, 2004 - 9:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An assault rifle by most definitions is capable of automatic fire. Automatic weapons (thus assault rifles) have been illegal in the US for a long time, I think since the 1920s or 30s, when the .45 caliber Thompson sub-machinegun and the .30 caliber Browning automatic were available from Sears. The drafters of the assult weapons ban have characterized banned weapons as "assault-style weapons" (note the use of the -styled descriptor), a category which sweeps more broadly than "assault rifle" does. The legislation bans UZIs, MAC-10s, SKSs and other weapons which are not assault rifles at all, whether they can fire auto or not.

The prohibitionist lobby in DC seems to define "assault-style weapons" as scary-looking guns.

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