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     JMF Citizen Username: Jmf Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2004 |
Ok Ronald, Here is my opinion on that issue and one of the reasons why I am voting for Kerry. Obviously you don't have to agree with my opinion. The war one terror has to be fought globaly with the support and help of the rest of the world. The war on Terror has turned into something else though. We went after Al qaeda, and it was the right thing to do. When we moved our efforts to Iraq, we lost focus on the original enemy. We also lost the support of the rest of the world. Do you remember that newspaper heading after 9/11 "We are all American" The rest of the world was behind us. When we declined the UN's weapons inspectors request for more time, and told the UN we are going into Iraq and it didn't matter what they voted, we lost that support from around the world. I do not feel any safer since we have gone into Iraq. I do not feel we are fighting the right enemy right now. I believe this administration rushed us into a war in Iraq without exhausting all other diplomatic options, and now we are stuck in a war where soldiers are dying every day without knowing how we are going to get out of there. We are not focused on Al Qaeda. If we are going to win the war on Terror, we need a president who will work with the international community to fight terrorism all accross the globe. I do not think this administration has any desire to do that. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 936 Registered: 12-2001 |
Ronald Allen is presenting us with the drama of his political coming of age. I'm not exactly buying it. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 937 Registered: 12-2001 |
Look what these pinkos have to say: http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-AIRPAPER-357916.php | ||
| Ronald Allan Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2004  |
25+ nations are fighting in Iraq. The UN refused to hold Saddam accountable despite 12 years of attempting to enforce sanctions. For the President to say he will wait until Europe is good and ready to protect America is laughable. Saddam Hussein was a goon and he is no longer a threat. We now find ourselves fighting thousands upon thousands of terrorists in their backyard as well. I don't know about you but I like the idea of Iraq and Afghanistan being the central front. It sure beats NYC and LA. By the way did you hear Kerry's latest? He now says he didn't vote to go to war, he voted to give the President the right to talk to the UN. What the heck? This man is very bothersome. My guess is the terrorists would love to see him elected. | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 506 Registered: 12-2001 |
I think the Republicans should pay to put the "fortunate son" ad back on television (the DNC pulled the ad). The entire smear campaign is now based on an interview with a top Kerry campaign fund raiser (Ben Barnes). The rest of the smear was based on what we all know now are fake documents. If you haven't watched it, here is the link: http://www.democrats.org/fortunateson/ This stuff is too funny to be true and it was released at 8 AM the day after the 60 minutes story aired and before the DNC would be caught with their advisors talking to the CBS source. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 320 Registered: 12-2003 |
I want a President who will take it to the enemy, keeping the attackers off our streets. I don't want to be afraid to leave my house. I think this is one of the most dangerous misconceptions about Bush's strategy. That somehow, a war going on in Iraq means that there aren't any terrorists doing any plotting in America. The truth is, al Qaeda is everywhere. They are plotting. Our presence (and severe mismanagement of same) in Iraq creates new terrorists every day. The idea that a terror cell already within our borders is going to drop everything so they can go fight in Iraq is asinine. Here's why you should be afraid to leave your house: With the latest Detroit convictions overturned, Ashcroft has not convicted a single person of terrorism since 9/11. http://www.alternet.org/rights/19948/ | ||
| Ronald Allan Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2004 |
"With the latest Detroit convictions overturned, Ashcroft has not convicted a single person of terrorism since 9/11." Yeah but we've killed thousands of them since 9/11. And in the end I'd rather see them dead anyway. | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 507 Registered: 12-2001 |
Madden, I blame the ACLU. If anyone is making it easier for terrorists to operate within the US, it is the ACLU. Where is the outrage at this group? | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 321 Registered: 12-2003 |
Yeah but we've killed thousands of them since 9/11. And in the end I'd rather see them dead anyway. You can't be serious. We've killed the ones thousands of miles away that had no way to hurt us. We're failing to find and convict the ones here in America that can. That doesn't bother you? | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 322 Registered: 12-2003 |
I blame the ACLU. If anyone is making it easier for terrorists to operate within the US, it is the ACLU. Where is the outrage at this group? Oy vey. Thanks, Rush. | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 509 Registered: 12-2001 |
Truth hurts. Sorry Madden. | ||
| JMF Citizen Username: Jmf Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2004 |
Ronald, Lets be honest here. You are not undecided as you present yourself to be. "25+ nations are fighting in Iraq. The UN refused to hold Saddam accountable despite 12 years of attempting to enforce sanctions." Who is spending the money? Who is losing the lives? The weapons inspectors were in Iraq for the first time since 1998, and we rushed them out. They asked for more time, and that is why France et al, were against the war. "Saddam Hussein was a goon and he is no longer a threat." so lets attack all "goons" around the world... "By the way did you hear Kerry's latest? He now says he didn't vote to go to war, he voted to give the President the right to talk to the UN. What the heck? This man is very bothersome." Read up. It states that they give the president the authority to start a war, AFTER all other diplomatic options have been exhausted. http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3202&can_id=S0421103 "My guess is the terrorists would love to see him elected." You mean the ones who Bush stopped going after to start a war with Iraq? Those terrorists? | ||
| Ronald Allan Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 48 Registered: 9-2004 |
"We've killed the ones thousands of miles away that had no way to hurt us. We're failing to find and convict the ones here in America that can. That doesn't bother you?" Don't tell that to the victims of the USS Cole. You do realize the goal of these terrorists (pre 911) was to enter the U.S and kill Americans. As a matter of fact some did, and actually killed 3,000 of us. So live in your little fantasy world where far far away means it can't hurt you. I'll live in the world of reality, thank you. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 939 Registered: 12-2001 |
Yes by killing 10 - 30 thousand Iraqis, rather than one Osama, we've made ourselves very safe indeed. But let's say, God forbid, someone blows up a subway car during rush hour next week. What do we do? What's the next act? | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 323 Registered: 12-2003 |
You do realize the goal of these terrorists (pre 911) was to enter the U.S and kill Americans. So post-9/11, you think that's no longer a goal? You believe there are no terrorists currently living in America that we need to be worried about? That terrorists in Iraq can attack the U.S. with greater ease than those already within our borders? That's "the world of reality" to you? I just don't even know what to say to that. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 324 Registered: 12-2003 |
But let's say, God forbid, someone blows up a subway car during rush hour next week. What do we do? What's the next act? Invade Iran. Or with Bush, who knows? Maybe Canada, Belgium, Taiwan, Mars? | ||
| Ronald Allan Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2004 |
yes sir, I'm voting for Bush. MOL has helped me finalize my decision. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2456 Registered: 8-2003 |
Wow -- to believe Ronald -- MOL actually made the difference in a voter. Were you undecided before? Seriously now. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 940 Registered: 12-2001 |
I think Ronald should put on a brown leotard and scrunch up into a ball on a mat and pretend to be a seed, and then Janay and Guy can stand over him and pretend to be the nurishing rain by wiggling their fingers, and the gentle sun by holding their palms next to their faces and smiling, and Ronald can stretch his arms slowly up as he begins to grow, until he is a wise tall republican oak tree with a long mossy beard. I love pretend. | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 138 Registered: 8-2004  |
That is a scary visual. I think I will leave the rest to Ron. |
