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     dacar Citizen Username: Dacar Post Number: 121 Registered: 6-2001 |
No French or German turn on Iraq By Jo Johnson in Paris, Betrand Benoit in Berlin and James Harding in Washington FT.COM French and German government officials say they will not significantly increase military assistance in Iraq even if John Kerry, the Democratic presidential challenger, is elected on November 2. | ||
| Mustt_mustt Citizen Username: Mustt_mustt Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2003 |
No surprise there! They are against the war, not against Bush. | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 962 Registered: 11-2001  |
UN-Kerry, the Sudan. NO progress at all, they're arguing about the definition of genocide while hundreds of thousands of people die. Shall we relinquish control to these idiots, I say no. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2494 Registered: 8-2003 |
Only a complete idiot would believe that Kerry could get the stalwarts for liberty in Europe -- the French and Germans -- to commit troops or significant amounts of capital without a decent return on investment to Iraq. Did you Kerry supporters actually believe that? | ||
| Mustt_mustt Citizen Username: Mustt_mustt Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2003 |
Like the stalwart Haliburton which is committed to both democracy and "a decent return on investment" FROM Iraq...... | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12284 Registered: 10-2001  |
Kerry is finished... http://www.iht.com/articles/540711.html | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 1124 Registered: 6-2003  |
I stated earlier on MOL that the Kerry program was not realistic, since it depended on actions to be taken by nations other than the United States. That said, it's still closer to a realistic policy than anything we've seen so far from the Bush Administration, and would likely evolve into something realistic if Kerry were to take office. | ||
| sbenois Citizen Username: Sbenois Post Number: 12285 Registered: 10-2001 |
We'll never know. | ||
| dwllc Citizen Username: Dwllc Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2001 |
The Germans are waiting in the wings in hopes that Kerry takes office and Iraq starts to crumble before democracy takes hold. That way they can start to sneek oil out the back door AGAIN. Like Schwartzcoft said Going into battle without the French is like going into battle without your toaster | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2497 Registered: 8-2003 |
must...must... Halliburton does want a return, and they're also willing to bleed for it. Not the same for the Weasels. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 1125 Registered: 6-2003 |
Not weasels, just smart. Iraq was a predictable disaster and if the arrogant Yankees got taken down a notch or two, so much the better. Saddam was no threat and they knew it. Moreover, the Democrats have traditionally been more protectionist than the Republicans, so a weak Republican government might actually serve French and German interests better than a Democratic government (especially a weak Democratic government attempting to maintain domestic support from workers in declining industries). The U.S. government puts the interests of its (domestic American) supporters first. No one should reproach other governments for doing the same, especially if they are democratically elected governments responding to the wishes of their voters. | ||
| Tom Reingold Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 3924 Registered: 1-2003  |
Well, I don't know, Montagnard. Should elected officials do what's right for the country, even if the voters want them to do what's wrong? I don't claim to know the answer to that question. | ||
| Mustt_mustt Citizen Username: Mustt_mustt Post Number: 67 Registered: 8-2003 |
CJC, Looks like we live in a world full of weasels, save for the 30 nations that are part of the US led coalition. Wonder on what grounds non-European nations did not support the war! I mean the rest of the world.... Haliburton bleeding for their investments?? I am not going to grieve over their losses. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 379 Registered: 12-2003 |
Halliburton does want a return, and they're also willing to bleed for it. You can't be serious. The people getting the REAL returns from Halliburton are in no physical danger whatsoever. How many board members have come home in flag-draped coffins? | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 599 Registered: 12-2001  |
Those mean, nasty, wealthy board members. Damn them! Let's not stop at Haliburton, what about Lockhead, Boeing, etc.? The government shouldn't contract with anyone right? If not Haliburton, who would you hire? Let's have the government do more and screw the private sector. Those people who work for Haliburton aren't real people since Cheney used to be their CEO. Screw 'em and let them all starve. That will teach them. Curious, what do all of you do for a living? From the sound of it, some of you think we should all make $7 / hr. and live in 350 sq. ft. homes with a food ration. Socialists baby, yeah. Let's all chant, "I HATE THE RICH, I HATE THE RICH" unless of course you earn your money in the arts or entertainment industry.... that's ok. If you do it through a corporation you are the scum of the earth. Note to liberal self.... do Google search, find article that exposes how mean and nasty a company Haliburton is and how Cheney is lining his pockets. Damn, Cheney has no financial connection anymore - damn. Well let's just say he does and hope people will believe it. | ||
| Maple Man Citizen Username: Mapleman Post Number: 339 Registered: 6-2004  |
single, the problem with Halliburton is that they have a habit of overcharging the govt for services. I'd think that would have true conservatives up in arms. Their waste is paid for by you the taxpayer. | ||
| JMF Citizen Username: Jmf Post Number: 37 Registered: 9-2004 |
"Damn, Cheney has no financial connection anymore " Are you going to overlook his deferred salary and holding stock in Halliburton??? There is absolutely a financial interest there. he owns 433,333 Stock Options. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 117 Registered: 7-2004 |
single...right back at cha, bud. | ||
| Tom Reingold Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 3930 Registered: 1-2003 |
singlemalt, you are extrapolating an opinion that no one expressed here. You're knocking down a strawman. | ||
| singlemalt Citizen Username: Singlemalt Post Number: 603 Registered: 12-2001 |
Maple - if you can find me another company capable of doing what Halliburton does for the US than please let me know. Be specific and remember the risks involved in going into a war-town country to meet the requirements of what the government, national security and personal safety demands would be. Haliburton is a defense contractor. Yes - Cheney was their old CEO. He no longer has a financial tie regardless of the BS the haters on the left try to accuse him of. Even if he did, there is not another US company capable of meeting the requirements of the job other than Halliburton. Did anyone accuse Clinton, Carter, Johnson and almost all Democratic Presidents in the 20th century of using Halliburton? No - it's all cheap politics that once again play on national security issues. I agree the overcharging is BS and from what I understand has been corrected. However, goverment contracts are reviewed and managed by non-partisans and they are the one's who should be responsible. By the way - has anyone noticed that Kerry is turning orange? I notived on the news last night and Drudge made it a story today. What is he doing? Bad tanning cream??  |
