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     Maplewoody Real Name Username: Maplewoody Post Number: 794 Registered: 5-2001  |
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| JMF Citizen Username: Jmf Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| Andrew N de la Torre Citizen Username: Delatorre Post Number: 249 Registered: 2-2003 |
 How can anyone question Kerry's intent to protect the American people. It is a matter of character and credibility, of which Bush has little. A quote by Bush... "What an impressive crowd: the haves, and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite, I call you my base" The Bush agenda is that the vast majority of Americans are a means to a end, which is to improve the profits of corporations and wealth of the elite. The democractic agenda views the American people as the end, such that government works to improve and protect the American people, even at the expense of corporate profit | ||
| Cato Nova Citizen Username: Cato_nova Post Number: 408 Registered: 12-2003 |
Maplewoody: Nice shot. Gives new meaning to the idea of probing bush on the issues. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2502 Registered: 8-2003 |
No one is questioning Kerry's intent to protect the country. It's Kerry's ability that a majority question -- republicans and democrats alike. | ||
| George W Bush Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 104 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| MHD Real Name Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 1628 Registered: 5-2001  |
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| George W Bush Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 105 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| Nohero Citizen Username: Nohero Post Number: 3884 Registered: 10-1999  |
Oh, great, re-runs. For cryin' out loud, at least get some new cartoons and graphics to post, to go with your new screen name.  | ||
| Andrew N de la Torre Citizen Username: Delatorre Post Number: 250 Registered: 2-2003 |
CJC, How has Bush displayed any credible ability to protect our country? Did not support Creation of Homeland security Did not support 911 commission Has under funded port security Has not put pressure on Saudi Arabia to stop flow of money to terrorist organizations etc... What specifically is the question about Kerry? | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 123 Registered: 7-2004 |
Andrew: don't forget Bush failed to protect American citizens on Sept 11, 2001. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2504 Registered: 8-2003 |
While Bush -- like myself -- resisted the creation of a new bureaucracy of "Homeland Security", he signed it after getting some of what he wanted. 9/11 Commission was a partisan hack-job, as I believe most in the country viewed it. He's funding port security more than it's ever been funded before. Same as education. I'm not as big on defense as I am on offense in the war on terror. He has pressured Saudis and gone after terrorist funding sources in the Middle East, Europe and elsewhere. The question about Kerry goes to who Kerry is, how he's postured himself this way and that on a variety of security issues, not all relating to 9/11 and the war on terror. I mean -- what is the question about Kerry? It's the same one he's been trying to answer ever since he announced his candidacy. Did you see him with Diane Sawyer? It was pathetic. | ||
| George W Bush Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 106 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| George W Bush Citizen Username: Mondale Post Number: 107 Registered: 9-2004 |
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| Tom Reingold Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 3946 Registered: 1-2003  |
http://www.axisofeve.org/ | ||
| Michael Janay Citizen Username: Childprotect Post Number: 871 Registered: 1-2003  |
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| Andrew N de la Torre Citizen Username: Delatorre Post Number: 251 Registered: 2-2003 |
CJC, You did not answer the question So, if no bureau of homeland security. How do we better protect ourselves. Bush change in support had more to do with the 2002 elections than anything else. The 9/11 commission was bipartisan, so how was it a "partisan hack"? Although there is more funding for port security, the level of fund is still well below what ist needed. My understanding is that only 5% of ships are currently being inspected. To be effective, I've read, 20% of ships need to be inspected. If he's pressured the Saudis, when and how? So what is Bush doing? You note "offense" Where? And please don't tell me Iraq. If kerry has changed his position, how? And don't pull statements out of context. | ||
| MHD Real Name Username: Mayhewdrive Post Number: 1629 Registered: 5-2001 |
Looks like Cheney is quite a flip-flopper, himself: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/192908_cheney29.html?searchpagefrom=1&sea rchdiff=1 ...."And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?" Cheney said then in response to a question. "And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq." About 146 Americans were killed in the Gulf War. More than 1,000 U.S. soldiers have died in the invasion of Iraq and its aftermath. Going to Baghdad, Cheney said in 1992, would require a much different approach militarily than fighting in the open desert outside the capital, a type of warfare that U.S. troops were not familiar, or comfortable fighting. "All of a sudden you've got a battle you're fighting in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques," Cheney said. "Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq." ..... | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2505 Registered: 8-2003 |
I did answer the question. My answer on Homeland Security stands, and the views of the 9/11 Commission between Kerrey and Ben Vineste's posturing, along with the total unaccountability of Jamie Gorelick for her efforts at DoJ on non-cooperation between the FBI and CIA are what I refer to as the partisan nature of the 9/11 Commission. You want X-funding for Port Security, I want Y. Ashcroft has worked and interrupted bogus Islamic Charity funding of terrorists. These charities operate in the Saudi kingdom as well. Saudis are currently having gun battles with suspected terrorists as they should. The terrorists will eventually come after the Saudis, and the Saudis now understand that. We're still in Afghanistan, Iraq, working in SE Asia and the Phillippines (Abu Sayef has been cornered and quieted). "If Kerry has changed his position"??? He's used two rationales for his vote against the 87B funding of the troops. First -- it was over tax policy and higher taxes on the wealthy. Second -- it was so "This Admin doesn't get a blank check without a plan." Now -- it's back to holding up military funding and equipment over a tax dispute (as recently said on Good Morning America). He's all for building coalitions, but voted against the coalition in the first Gulf War. He's a mess, Andrew, and has been trying unsuccessfully to explain himself the whole time. So much so, he'll have to try to do it yet AGAIN tonight. | ||
| Sylad Citizen Username: Sylad Post Number: 820 Registered: 6-2002 |
Bottom Line: George W. Bush has done more than any other president in the fight against terror. What has Kerry done? Since Kerry entered the senate there have been about 15 attacks against US assets. |
