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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3051
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 4:23 pm: |     |
ATLANTA - Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said Friday he regrets the Bush administration claimed that Iraq (news - web sites) had stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in its argument for war, but he believes the world is better off without Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).
How painful it must be to reconcile what he obviously is coming to learn with what his bosses tell him to do and say. Of all the Bush Administration, this is the person whose career and prospect for future political life has been decimated by having to toe the Bush line.
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Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 79
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 4:29 pm: | |
Except Democrats wouldn't hold it against him that he actually considered an issue and changed his mind after learning more facts.
Paleoconservatives and other single-celled lifeforms would call this flip-flopping. |
Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston
Post Number: 162
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 4:32 pm: | |
Powell showed weakness and disloyalty (even if he was right). Therefore, Bush will promptly drop him from his post should he win again. |
themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 998
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 4:42 pm: | |
Poor guy. He and so many others (Whitman, etc) who lent their credibility to the Bush admin will probably write some bitter memoirs some day. Wonder how he feels about Rummy. |
joso
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Username: Joso
Post Number: 270
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 4:49 pm: | |
Powell supported this ill-fated war. He is no better than the rest. |
Michael Janay
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Username: Childprotect
Post Number: 893
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 5:05 pm: | |
Reuters:
Secretary of State Colin Powell on Friday rejected Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry's charge that the Bush administration had bungled a chance to catch Osama bin Laden in late 2001.
Powell was responding to Kerry's accusation in Thursday's presidential campaign debate with President Bush that U.S. military commanders had let the al Qaeda leader escape from the Tora Bora mountains of Afghanistan.
Kerry said Bush had "outsourced" the mission to Afghan warlords who were former allies of the Taliban regime.
"I think it's a stretch to say that they knew he (bin Laden) was there and they knew it at the time the battle was going on," Powell said following a speech to the Atlanta Press Club. "I have no reason to believe that our commanders mishandled that."
U.S.-led forces ousted the fundamentalist Taliban rulers shortly after a fierce battle in Tora Bora in December 2001. It is believed that bin Laden slipped out of the heavily-bombed region around this time, possibly fleeing into Pakistan.
Powell said U.S. and Pakistani forces were continuing to search for bin Laden, whose al Qaeda network carried out the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. Powell denied Kerry's suggestion that the U.S.-led war in Iraq had diverted attention and resources from the hunt.
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3053
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 7:47 pm: | |
What, if anything, does this have to do with the quote cited at the start of this thread, Mr. Janay? It seems, typically, tangential to the point. |
akl
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Username: Akl
Post Number: 68
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 9:11 pm: | |
When Colin Powell went before the UN in January 2003 to present the administration's case about Iraqi WMD, I believed him because -- it was the unimpeachable, unpoliticized, measured, seasoned and vetted Colin Powell.
Ha. Read the accounts of Richard Clarke, Paul O'Neil and Bob Woodward, all of whom report that pretty much from the beginning of the administration, Powell has let the idealogues run over him and the State Department. He should have resigned and spoken-out publicly before the invasion and told us what he really thought -- that the Bushies were running willy-nilly into war and nothing, not common sense, diplomacy or honesty, was going to stop them.
Instead, he genuflected to Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush and stayed "on message." He betrayed his true beliefs for what??? An old soldier's loyalty to his commander-in-chief? He was the only person in the administration who had enough stature to possibly make a difference and head off this catastrophe.
I could never trust or support him again. |
Michael Janay
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Username: Childprotect
Post Number: 895
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 1, 2004 - 11:58 pm: | |
Lets see:
Topic of thread: Colin Powell is the only Administration official worth a damn
Quote: Powell denied Kerry's suggestion that the U.S.-led war in Iraq had diverted attention and resources from the hunt
The point is that you select one quote from Powell and discount any others that he gave at the same time and place.
So what is it? Is Powell "Worth a damn" even when he decimates your candidates position? |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 206
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 12:08 am: | |
I'd hardly say he decimated it. He disagrees with Kerry's assessment. That's fine. But he hardly stated "bin Laden was not there, and even if he was, and US troops were brought in, he wouldn't have been caught or killed."
"I have no reason to believe..." weasel-words if I've ever heard any. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3057
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 1:37 pm: | |
Yes Mr. Janay... he is. And that you are unable to make the distinction your ownself is shameful. See it is within my reason to disagree with my candidate and still see him as a better choice. You, on the other hand, follow blindly and link and paste and cut stuff that suits your needs. Colin Powell, even when he decimates my candidates position, as you put it, is THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATION WORHT A DAMN. And Mr. Janay, when you learn to have broader view of the political spectrum, get back to me. I find your adherence to doctrine, to quote a missing (though not really friend), BORING and childish. Think man. Colin Powell had a great future ahead of him until he hitched his wagon to this particular falling star. Now he is toast. And I feel bad for him. I have always admired him, even when I disagreed with him. |
Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 3898
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 3:40 pm: | |
Secretary Powell is a "Bushie" still in recovery. Give him time - he should be fully recovered by January.
He should continue to be called on for advice in the Kerry Administration.
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George W Bush
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Username: Mondale
Post Number: 116
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 5:42 pm: | |
If powell were white libs would hate him as much as they do Rummy and Cheney...period. |
ffof
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Username: Ffof
Post Number: 2897
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 6:25 pm: | |
that's just stupid! |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 212
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 6:42 pm: | |
Powell may be the only administration figure worth a damn, but he has kowtowed to his president in ways that are beyond loyalty. His ineffectiveness as a secretary of state and international diplomatic leader are a rank disappointment when we think of his experience, his capabilities, his potential. Don't forget: there was plenty of talk about Powell for President, and rightly so! What a waste of talent to have him shill for the biggest schmuck in Washington, DC. |
Cato Nova
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Username: Cato_nova
Post Number: 413
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 8:03 pm: | |
Colin Powell is a played out whore. He allowed himself to be used as the regime's front man because he had credibility with non-Bushites; now that our imperial adventures have failed, he tries to distance himself. What a disgusting self-promoting adventurer. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3062
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, October 2, 2004 - 10:30 pm: | |
Cato, in general I find your....proclimations to be fun. But you are dead wrong about Powell. I am a disgusting self-promoting adventurer and believe me, Powell is not.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 3968
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 3, 2004 - 12:31 am: | |
Kerry should reappoint Powell to Secretary of State. |
Mustt_mustt
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Username: Mustt_mustt
Post Number: 76
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 3, 2004 - 11:19 am: | |
Tom,
Powell carries too much baggage. He needs to take a break from politics, especially the Republican kind, regain his credibility and then think of rejoining the public sphere. I wonder why he did not resign much earlier when the stuff hit the fan. I'd put my money on Holbrooke or even George Mitchell as the new SOS. |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3072
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 3, 2004 - 11:43 am: | |
George Mitchell would be the ideal apointee no matter who wins. |
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