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Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2723
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 2:55 pm: |     |
Sorry, have to agree with John on this one. Dogs should be leashed in the reservation. My kids have been scared witless by unleashed dogs trying to be friendly. And we have two overly-friendly dogs, so they aren't unreasonably terrified (as I was as a kid).
I don't let my kids run up to a dog they don't know. I would hope your dog wouldn't run up to a person they don't know. If you can't guarantee that (I know I certainly can't with my dogs), your dog should be on a leash.
It is not "nothing" to be concerned about a strange dog running up to you or your kids or for that matter your dog. My daughter was scratched in the face by a "friendly" dog. My friend's dog was bitten by a "friendly" dog. Almost any dog can feel threatened in certain circumstances and become aggressive.
In addition, you are protecting your dog by keeping them on leash. Your dog could see a deer and run off after it into the street. Your dog could be more readily attacked by another dog, animal or for that matter human if he is off leash.
Hopefully the dog park will be opening in the spring! Until then please keep your dogs leashed. |
Oldstone
Citizen
Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 561
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:05 pm: | |
wendy, when my dog is off-leash it is 6:30-7am, children are generally not around, and if i see humans or deer i leash him. i'm sure, as a dog owner, you can appreciate the beauty of a dog in a natural habitat doing what comes naturally to him. i don't think mine is ever happier than at those moments.
i am not irresponsible. i am sensitive to the fact that some people are afraid of dogs, no matter the size or demeanor.
i agree with you regarding people that can't guarantee their dog's behaviour keeping them leashed. especially BIG dogs. |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10765
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:07 pm: | |
Mem, you actually let your greyhound off leash in an open area? I thought that was a no-no since greys are sight hounds and usually take off at 30 plus mph when they see a rabbit or such. |
dawny
Citizen
Username: Day
Post Number: 39
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:10 pm: | |
Agree with Wendyn and John. Can't tell you how many times unleashed dogs (some incredibly menacing looking) have come after me when jogging, ran up and frightened my 6-year-old or tried to stick their heads in my little one's stroller. I think dog owners tend to be incredibly cavalier about this in the reservation. The signs are clearly posted -- all dogs should be on a leash |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2725
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:33 pm: | |
Oldstone, I am totally with you. My pugs love love love being off leash. And they are small. And have no agressive bones in their wiggly little bodies.
I stopped letting them off leash for three reasons:
1. There are a lot of people, myself included for about 20 years, who are afraid of dogs. Like terrified afraid. Like run the other way. Which of course then becomes a big chase game for the friendly dog.
2. I am possibly, besides my husband, the worst dog trainer in the world. My dogs laugh at me when I say "stay" or "heel". There is no way I could prevent them from exhuberantly saying hi to people they see.
3. Other dogs are not so friendly as mine. Other dogs are much bigger than mine.
My concern is that something unexpected could happen that could spook or excite your dog and you couldn't get to him in time before something hurts him or he hurts something. Probably won't. But could.
I'm certainly not in the resi at 6:30am (though you may see me walking the puggers around the block around then). I did have breakfast with the kids/pugs there last summer around 9am, and there were plenty of off leash dogs saying hi to us. Fortunately all were friendly. The pugs were in a frenzy because I kept them on the leash while the other dogs were running around with their owners yelling "come come stop that get over here".
Looking foward to the dog park... |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5780
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:38 pm: | |
Bob K,
My friend Claudia is using my account until she is approved. Howver, she often walks my dog, and I trust her judgement completely.
By the way, Jack is very, very retired these days. A squirrel could walk on his nose and he would just laugh and go back to sleep.
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Claudia Mattheiss
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 4:08 pm: | |
Mem's greyhound is extremely bonded and listens exceptionally well. This is unusally for this breed but he is a special boy. I take mem's dog regularly with me when I take my dogs and would never be comfortable to let him enjoy the woods if I am not sure I can call him back on the dime. We normally go deep into the woods and encounter many deer. I would never allow any dog to chase a deer and mems grey has never disobeyed a command. Both of my dogs listen to all basic commands (hence "Stay with Mami" which means "heel" to my little one). My dogs heel, wait, slow down, stop, sit, stay and lay down. I am a very responsible owner and yes I would not let my dogs of the leash if I could not verbally control them. My dogs do not run up to people, they do not run up to dogs and have no interest in chasing wildlife. Dogs are also much more likely to get aggressive when leashed since they feel hindered.
I think that it is irresponsible to own a dog and not train him/her well enough to let him of leash. Not only does the dog deserve to have a little freedom but even leashed dogs can get loose and then the average dog owner is up the creek. I have seen it plenty of times when an owner is trying to run after a dog who has never learned to listen without being yanked by the collar. And yes anybody who does let their dog off leash without being able to control them is irresponsible. However this is not the case with my dogs or mem's. The people who know me see me up there with lots of other dogs I take along and they are always leashed.
But hey that's just my opinion.
C |
Oldstone
Citizen
Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 565
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
thank you, claudia. when my dog accidentally escapes from the back yard because someone left the gate open unbeknownst to me, ie. waste management, those few times he has been just standing in the driveway because he knows if i have to chase or raise my voice to him i will make him feel terrible with scolding.
i like to think that it's good training on my part. |
Wendyn
Supporter
Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2728
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 4:35 pm: | |
Agree I am a horrible dog owner because my pugs, or rather my husband and I, are not trained properly. I am fortunate that they are not natural wanderers and have stayed close when leashes are dropped/gates are left open.
Disagree that it is ok to let your dogs off leash because you think there will never be an instance where your dogs could get in to or cause trouble.
Dogs may get more aggressive on leash, but they are easier for the owner to control. And for every obediant dog in the resi there are 2 who are not but are still off leash. Since there can't be a rule that says "your dog can only be off leash if they are not aggressive and respond to your commands without question", why don't we just follow the rule that is there.
When I see your dogs off leash, it makes me not want to walk with my kids in the reservation. Because I have no idea if your dogs are dangerous or docile, obnoxious or obedient. Sometimes the dogs come bounding up so far from their owner I don't even know if they are strays. So those of you walking your dogs off leash are preventing me from enjoying the reservation with my kids. If the dogs were leashed we could all enjoy it.
Oh and my dogs do run off leash. In my back yard, and in dog parks. |
AHCJR
Citizen
Username: Ahcjr1
Post Number: 12
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 4:38 pm: | |
Good for you Wendyn! I wish you could talk to me neighbors for me...BTW, I'm not generally a little dog fan, but I love pugs. |
Claudia Mattheiss
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 6
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
Dear WendyNY:
As I stated I walk my dogs offleash on the heavily wooded paths. When I see people coming the opposite way I call my dogs, step of the path and let however it is pass. This has nothing to do with dogs or kids, menancing or not, I consider this common courtesy. Should you ever see me (I am there all the time with usually two very big dogs and a small dog) and should me or my dogs affect your once a week (maybe) resevation stroll in the slightest then I will change my and my dogs routine for you. However I make a point of going deep into the woods (which by the way are full of ticks so check your kids)so my dogs can enjoy a little bit of life and I am in nobody's way. That way I don't have to yank my dogs every five seconds to get out of the way of bike riders who are either too fast or young kids who can't ride well with parents who trail 200 feet behind.
C |
James
Citizen
Username: Mcgregorj
Post Number: 90
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 9:57 am: | |
Of course, bicycling (like off-leash dogs) is illegal in the Reservation... |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2166
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 10:16 am: | |
Claudia,
"As I stated I walk my dogs offleash on the heavily wooded paths"
So you are breaking the law, but becasue your dogs are well trained, it's ok? |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 3165
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 10:38 am: | |
Biking isn't illegal on the paved road - just on the trails. In fact, that loop road is one of the best places around to teach kids to ride a bicycle or just to enjoy a ride without automobile traffic interfering. |
Wendyn
Supporter
Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2729
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 10:57 am: | |
Dear Claudia,
I will repeat. You are not allowed to have your dogs off leash in the reservation. It can be dangerous for your dog, for other dogs, and for humans.
Don't kid yourself that because you are a great dog trainer or your dogs are well behaved or because you go deep in the woods or because you go off hours that you get a pass on this. If you want to continue to break the law, do so without coming up with excuses. When I drive too fast I don't say "well I'm a great driver and there is no one around at 3am and the speed limit shouldn't be 25 for people like me anyway". I say I am knowingly breaking the law and it could result in severe consequences.
I don't want you to change your and your dogs routine for me. I want you to understand why there is a leash law and why it is important.
Common courtesy would be to follow the law that says your dogs should be leashed, for their protection and everyone else. Just remember how stupid the leash law is when an aggressive off leash dog attacks you or your dog, or a kid inadvertantly teases your dog into protecting his space. |
James
Citizen
Username: Mcgregorj
Post Number: 91
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 11:10 am: | |
Sac: Sorry, you're right - it's just that as a very active hiker and cyclist it really gets on my nerves how many people bicycle on the reservation trails. |
Proud Daddy
Citizen
Username: Proud_daddy
Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 11:42 am: | |
For years South Mtn Reservation was the premier spot to go mtn biking in the NJ/NYC Metro area. One of the reasons I moved to Maplewood was because of the reservation but I have never biked there in the nearly 5 years I have been here. All because of a few bad apples on both sides of the hike/bike confrontation, bikes were outlawed and I guess I have honored it. What a waste. I have to get in my car and drive about an hour to get to another halfway decent spot to bike. The whole issue is not and never was about trail erosion. Look at the long list of posts in this thread. It is always about "I want my trails for myself". The same goes for people with/without dogs. I also have a dog who I let loose when I am out of eyesight of the parking lot. I guess that makes me one of those "evil mtn biking folks who also hikes and has children".
Folks - Why can't we all just get along? |
Claudia Mattheiss
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:24 pm: | |
Dear Wendy:
I know that it is illegal to let my dogs of the leash in the reservation and yes I am aware that I am breaking the law. Are you honeslty going to tell me that you have never done anything which broke the law?? Why do you care if I am in the deep woods and don't even cross your "path". By the way it is not irresponsible to let a well trained dog of leash. It is natural and healthy and believe it or not a mentally balanced and well trained dog stays with you on his own accord. Shepherds let their border collies of leash, hunters let their hunting dogs of leash, rescue workers let their rescue dogs of leash.
I cannot believe that people get so upset over the dogs and there are thousand of condoms, open prostitution and drug dealings going on in broad daylight. Trust me I have run in to a whole other form of "wildlife" on my trip through the woods.
So lets all be friends again and lets address the really dangerous issues that are going on up there.
Claudia |
Claudia Mattheiss
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 8
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:28 pm: | |
Oh and Brett if you can truly say you have never done anything on purpose that broke the law. Then good for you.
C |
johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 1577
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:30 pm: | |
Claudia,
It is irresponsible because although you know your dog is well-behaved, other people around you do not.
If you expect other people to obey the law while in the Reservation, then so should you. It doesn't matter which law we are referring to. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2167
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:46 pm: | |
Actually I’m quite a rule follower. I got really upset the other morning at IHOP, because my friend ordered “All you Can Eat” Pancakes, and then his wife kept eating some.
But you jumped on the board to respond to: “Another one was strolling with a huge Greyhound and a little bastard. No leashes of course but big smiles of dog owner pride. One even called herself "Mami" when talking to the dogs. "Come to Mami! Stay with Mami." PATHETIC.”
And you were wrong, you were breaking the law, and obviously not DEEP in the woods were you weren’t causing someone else grief. If some one calls me on doing some thing wrong I’m the first to admit it. I don’t try to prove that I am the one exception to the law, or that I’m entitled to something someone else is not. If you feel that I have broken a law that causes problems for you I think you should speak up about it.
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10776
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:52 pm: | |
Now I understand why Jack got "early retirement". It looks like he doesn't have the instincts for his former line of work. 
Mrs. K doesn't know this yet so please don't tell her, but "we" are planning on adopting a dog in a year or two and one of the issues with greyhounds is that as a general rule they can't be trusted off leash. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5782
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 1:08 pm: | |
BobK,
Jack was one of the all time US champions out of New England - he was on the track for five years, while most dogs last between one - two years, maybe three at the most.
They even froze his sperm - want some?
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Wendyn
Supporter
Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2730
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 1:08 pm: | |
Claudia,
You are saying:
- I know there is a leash law in the reservation
- I am a responsible dog owner
- I have trained my dogs to behave appropriately while off leash
- I therefore can ignore the law and do whatever the heck I want
You think you are above the law. That YOU can determine if your dogs are allowed to be off leash. If you think you can make that determination, I assume you think anyone can decide that their dog is obedient enough to be off leash. And believe me, many people who make that assumption (myself included at one time) are wrong.
Part of being a good dog owner is showing other dog owners good etiquette. And showing non-dog owners that you respect their space.
I break the law all the time. I speed. So if you want to start a new thread about how a maniac drove by you in an Outback on Rt 78 at 80MPH, I will sheepishly agree it was me and I need to try to slow down. What I won't do is say that I was trained as an Indy race car driver and therefore can handle a car at a fast speed so the speed limit shouldn't apply to people like me.
People shouldn't sell or have sex in the reservation. People shouldn't deal drugs in the reservation. I'm pretty sure however that these people don't assume that what they are doing is ok because it is "so deep in the woods it doesn't bother anyone" or that it is "natural and healthy as long as you are responsible".
Hopefully the dog park will be built soon and the dogs can play there. And it would be great if they could provide mountain biking trails in part of the reservation as well. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5783
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 1:15 pm: | |
Wendyn,
I too am guilty of letting my dog off the leash when I am deep in the res, away from families with tots and kids. This is something I have been doing there with obedient dogs for almost 30 years. The only other people we see are those with their dogs off leash as well. And if the cops want to spend all that time and all that salary money to track us down, way deep in the woods, then they must have nothing better to do, and I doubt very much that is the case.
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 10777
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
Mem, I will pass on the offer.
Didn't mean to insult Jack's prior life. |
Claudia Mattheiss
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 13
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 4:53 pm: | |
Hello All:
Again I walk my dogs only off leash in the heavily wooded areas and the paths I take are completely unsuitable for strollers and small children. The only people I do see are other dog owners with their pets off leash and the occassional paying customer that was interupted in his act.
Nobody has ever complained to me about my dogs. When I do walk towards the parking lot my dogs are leashed. However I might have three or four dogs with me so even though they are all leashed I will tell my shep to heel and I will tell my little dog to walk with mommy which equals heel(if anybody finds that pathetic I could care less at least my dog listens). That way the three dogs + three leashes do not get entangled.
May I ask why you guys are all flipping on this? I do understand if people get ticked of when dogs are loose on the path. People have stroller, small kids...etc. But why do you care if I am walking somewhere else where our paths don't even cross? It seems to me the people who have the huge problem are the people with fairly small kids which is understandable but wait till your kids get a little older and ask you why there are all these balloons in the parking lot (or worse ..picks one up). I had to answer that questions after I saw my then 7 year old son bend down and reach for the "Balloon". Not all of us off leash dog owners are bad.
I am serious by the way..if anybody has a child that is petrified of dogs I will happily come and meet you somewhere in the park or the res and they can meet my dog (leashed of course) who will do tricks and be VERY well behaved. He has been used for this purpose before and has been very successful. Some children get incredible joy out of pets and some don't but no child should feel unnecessary fear. We use dogs to ease stress in the severely ill, the handicapped and the elderly patients and it helps incredibly. The horse and child program for severely handicapped and autistic kids at the Essex Equestrian Center is renowned it the country. Maybe your child would feel much better after he/she pet a nice dog and realized that most are not horrible monsters. Remember they are called "Man's best friend" for a reason.
Also lots of people have pets and not every pet owner is a lonely and crazy person who just likes pets better then people. I am a parent, I have lots of wonderful friends (love ya mem) and I have a well paying job. I pay taxes, and contribute to the neighborhood through my volunteer work and yes I have two dogs, a cat and a fish.
Feel free to yell at all the people you see with dogs of the leashes that walk on the path. You won't be yelling at me.
Lets all have a "hi how are you" and smile at each other fest. This life is way to short for all this arguing.
claudia
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Wendyn
Supporter
Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2734
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 9:12 am: | |
1. Condoms have (hopefully) nothing to do with unleashed dogs. I can be upset about both. If I heard someone defending their right to have sex in the reservation and leave condoms on the ground, I'd be just as indignant.
2. Lots of people, including adults, are afraid of dogs. When I have friends to my house usually the small kids are fine with the dogs and the adults are the ones who are uncomfortable. I have heard several different adults tell me they will not walk in any woodsy area of the reservation because of the number of dogs that come up to "say hi".
3. I care because unleashed dogs are by definition not under control. I care because I have seen normally friendly, well trained dogs become aggressive and dangerous. I care because I have seen well trained dogs do stupid things that can get them hurt. I care because IT IS NOT UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE HOW SAFE YOUR DOG IS TO LET OFF LEASH IN A PUBLIC PARK.
4. It is great when kids are not afraid of dogs. My kids love dogs. That is why my daughter was scratched in the face by a friendly dog who felt cornered when she tried to hug him. This was 100% my fault for turning my back on the child and the dog. But teaching kids that dogs are not monsters (although mine look that way) does not guarantee their safety.
5. I typically go to the woodsy areas, not the path, when in the reservation with my kids. There is not a "right" and a "wrong" place to let your dogs off leash in the reservation. There is not an "off leash dogs allowed" part of the reservation (yet). This is why my next door neighbor is the main driver behind getting the dog park built.
6. Life is too short to avoid going to the reservation because there are a bunch of people disregarding the leash law. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5793
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 9:35 am: | |
Knowing what I know and have seen in the reservation, I would NEVER bring any little children deep enough into the woods where my dog is let off leash, UNLESS I had a big dog with me and that's that. You want to go deep in the woods with toddlers - go camping in designated campgrounds which are supposedly safe - not in a park 2 miles away from Irvington, with drugs and prostitution all over.
My dog is properly leashed in the areas where people and children are. I agree, flipping out over this is nonsense. |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2175
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 9:40 am: | |
Claudia,
My problem is not that you walk your dog off the leash; I hope I can train Parker well enough that he will one day be able to walk around my parent’s farm leash free. I also know the pride that a dog owner has when their dog is trained well; it takes a lot of time and patience to get a dog to that level.
My issue is that you’re defending your right to break a law that is in place to protect adults, children and pets. And you use two points to justify yourself.
1. You walk your dog(s) where there are no other people are (“Why do you care if I am in the deep woods and don't even cross your "path".”) But that is obviously not true because John said: “Another one was strolling with a huge Greyhound and a little bastard. No leashes of course but big smiles of dog owner pride.” So I think it’s obvious that you do walk where other people are.
2. There are so many other lawbreakers in the Reservation that your small indiscretion should be overlooked. I never feel that this is a good argument to circumvent a law in place to protect humans and animals.
You’ve also stated that you are a fine upstanding member of the community “I pay taxes, and contribute to the neighborhood through my volunteer work”, well then you should also consider it your duty to set a good example for the people around you. Littering is also a relatively minor offence in the reservation, I’m sure no one calls the cops when a child drops a wrapper on the ground, but a good parent sets the example by picking it up. How many people do you think walk their dogs off leash and use the excuse “Everyone does it?”
I don’t think you’re a bad person or some crazy scofflaw, but I think that you are doing something that is wrong. And you should consider other ways for your dogs to get leash free time.
If we pass in the Reservation I probably will say Hi, and Parker will try to jump on your dogs head (we’re working on that.)
FWIW I’m not trying to gang up on you or be condescending, just giving my two cents. As a dog owner I look to other dog owners to give us a good reputation.
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mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5794
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 9:59 am: | |
I am not sure if there IS a law about walking dogs off leash in the back woods - I know there are signs on the paved part - does anyone know this?
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Ace789nj
Citizen
Username: Ace789nj
Post Number: 282
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:07 am: | |
I don't see what the issue is, I let my gerbils run free up there & they've never bothered anyone |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 23
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:02 am: | |
To Brett:
thanks for not ripping my throat out. My dogs are on the leash if I am on the paved part. However I have these retractable leashes that may be hard to see. So your dog jumps on other dogs head while being walked on the leash? Where is your leash control then?
My dogs didn't steal some kids sandwich, they weren't accused of jumping or running up to anybody. The only problem was that a fellow human being had no problem calling my dog a little bastard and me pathetic because of the way I addressed my dog. Well to the rant and rave person..you can kiss this mamis behind!
To Ace:
Actually that is not true. I was going to report you because I am getting sick and tired of having you damned gerbils running around digging for nuts and tap tapping..oh wait the tapping is not gerbils thats Woody Woodpecker right.. now all that would have never happend if that "little bastard" went to the police as soon as it happend.
Bajou |
Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2177
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:05 am: | |
"and Parker will try to jump on your dogs head (we’re working on that.)"
Read
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Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 24
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:37 am: | |
Oh Brett I am sorry this pathetic mami with her bastard didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
No, just kidding, I didn't mean to be so mean. I know how hard it is. It took me almost 4 years to get my small dog to behave appropriately. What kind of dog is "Parker" again.. by the way love that name. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 5795
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:46 am: | |
I know that my retractible leash is hard to see as well. There is this jogger in the backwoods who screams, "Get your dogs off my trail!" when he's still about a mile away. Then he doesn't see the retractible and freaks out. He has a phobia I guess, and hey, it's his world, we just live in it.
My dog doesn't jump, rarely approaches other dogs and never to people unless invited (he has zero interest in anything but sniffing trees - including your gerbils Ace! I am a different story though - yum).
Per this thread however I will continue to make extra sure to have Jack leashed. As far as the backwoods, I will also leash him when I see non-dog people, phobics, etc.
Peace, love, and therapy to those who need it.
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Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 25
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:49 am: | |
And wine to us ...
Cheers |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 26
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:54 am: | |
Oh there is another thread to be started.
Did or didn't mem just threaten Ace's gerbils. Did she imply that she would eat them or is mem just being funny...hmmmmm
I say .. alert the authorities, shoot her dog and burn her at the stake .. just in case.. oh and let's have all the kids watch so they understand what happens to a bad bad person.
You know mem we will go to hell but we will have lovely dressing rooms and three shows a day.
Bajou
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Wendyn
Supporter
Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 2737
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:57 am: | |
Sorry if wanting to protect your dogs and other park visitors makes me need therapy. As Brett's post much more eloquently put it, My issue is that you’re defending your right to break a law that is in place to protect adults, children and pets.
Please realize that it isn't only non-dog people and phobics that want dogs leashed. It is all of us who are obeying the law and trying to be good dog owners. |
Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 27
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:09 pm: | |
Ok Wendy
tell me next time you see me and I will change my wicked ways. Please make sure you tell all of the people you see that break laws that they should change their ways. Out loud, up front and in person okydoky.
and now I am done with this topic it's getting boring ....
I want to know if Ace has just given up on the Gerbils or if Mary has really eaten them. Tune in and you will find out... sigh
Bajou
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2178
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:10 pm: | |
Parker is a Shiba Inu, a cousin of the Aketa.
And his official name is Parker, but answers to “dammit”, “what have you done”, “Stop that before I kill you”, and on occasion “Oh my God”
I’m not to worried about his jumping yet, he’s only six months and should be a little calmer after Friday (they taking his manhood).
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mem
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Username: Mem
Post Number: 5801
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:35 pm: | |
Wendy,
I wasn't referring to you about therapy, I was referring to crazy jogger man! He's certifiably insane. I know this because I am an amateur proctologist. |
Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 29
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:03 pm: | |
Oh Hi Brett:
Did I by any chance meet you not to long ago in the Village by the pet store. If yes your dog is stunning.
I know the breed is very cat like. what is your experience.
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:08 pm: | |
mem...
What did you do to Ace's gerbils.. we want to know!
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2184
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:33 pm: | |
That may have been us, Parker draws quite a crowd.
He is starting to come into his cat like traits, he plays by himself, gets into mischief, and has always been meticulously clean. He very rarely barks, and when he dose it scares him a little. Lately he has been spending an hour or so in the basement by himself, we call it quiet time. But he is still a puppy, so he acts like one.
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 31
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:36 pm: | |
This is a very interesting breed. My shep/akita is getting extremely old and due to the chronic lyme will very sadly not be with me much longer.
How is Parker with kids, dogs and cats?
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2185
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:50 pm: | |
He’s great with other dogs. We recently took him to get “Interviewed” at a doggy day care. The employees couldn’t stop saying how great he was with the other dogs. Since then they have used Parker as the interview dog. He’s the first dog that new dogs meet. With bigger dogs he hasn’t really learned to leave well enough alone, they establish dominance and then he runs back to nip at them again, but it’s all play. He’s been great with all the kids that he’s met.
He has never met a cat though, but I have read that they’re great with cats.
Two problems with Shibas . They shed, twice a year. His first shed wasn’t too bad, we’ll see what happens when he gets a little older. And not to bring up a sore topic, they don’t do well off of a leash. They’re hunters and when they see a rabbit or squirrel, there isn’t much you can do to get them to stop the chase. I have read success stories from some owners, but others say that it’s impossible, including every breeder we talked to. I can even see it a little in Parker, a squirrel goes by and he won’t listen to a word I say, he just focuses all his energy on breaking the leash and getting the squirrel.
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Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 2186
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 2:58 pm: | |
this is him on the web cam from day care.
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 35
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
It is you.. I love your dog.
I know what you mean with the shedding. My shep/akita mix has all the akita traits when it comes to his coat. So I too have the twice a year "dumping". That's what its called since it is shedding hell for two to three weeks. At least your dog isn't that big. Mine is 80 lbs and I swear I could make three sweaters a year from the hair he looses during that time. My guy just got done which was really early this year.
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Bajou
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 4:47 pm: | |
By the way, there is a slight chance I might have to take in a english bulldog female 5 months old. Does anybody know of anybody who is interested?
By the way ...the Jersey Animal Coalition is once again receiving a huge load of puppies from the Georgia Shelters (I think close to 35). All breed represented.
Go look at the website. Their pictures are already up
http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?action=1&pet.Shelterid=NJ84&preview=1&sort=pet. Identifier&pet.Animal=Dog
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