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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 105
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 3:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do they walk, or do the prosecuters have enough to convince a jury that they knew exactly what was going on inside their company?
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John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack

Post Number: 31
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NPR reported that the prosecutor's opening included a tape of Skilling saying these are the facts ---(business sucks) and now this is what we will promulgate.

After the tape, Skilling's lawyer congratulated the prosecutor.
--Doesn't look good for Skilling.
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doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma

Post Number: 904
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 7:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On a related note, the Enron scandal documentary, "Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room", was nominated for an oscar! (Several local folks involved in production)
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4005
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am disappointed with Texas. Back in the day, Messrs. Lay and Skilling would have been introduced to Mr. Colt. Now, well, it seems like the rule of law is afflicting Texas.
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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 112
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 12283
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn was being sarcastic, for sure. We're not convicting them, but we expect (or at least hope) that a court will.
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4010
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MBJ,

Whatever happened to the idea that the captain is responsible for his ship - no exceptions.

Or is accountability a 20th Century idea.
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Joe
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Username: Gonets

Post Number: 1151
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the Japanese tradition of the disgraced leader committing seppuku.
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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 114
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, February 2, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing has happened to it. It's just that some of these accounting transactions were so complicated and technical that that it should be interesting to see if the "I didn't know" defense will fly. For instance, the whole thing involving those "Chewco" and "JEDI" SPEs. They kept a large amount of debt off the books because they supposedly met the criteria of having an independent, non-ENRON related party investing in them of at least 3% of the entity's equity. Were Lay and Skilling aware of them? Obviously they were. Were they aware that a portion of the 3% "independent equity" investment in them came from Michael Kopper's homosexual lover, which could be deemed as not "independent" and thus would nullify the SPE treatment? Perhaps not.

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