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thoughtful
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Username: Thoughtful
Post Number: 180
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:50 am: | 
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A Cape Cod high school may soon be the first in Massachusetts free of all colognes, perfumes, scented deodorants, and body sprays.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1696715&page=1 |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 3064
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:00 am: |
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I think it's a good idea... if you check the wording it says "strongly scented". I'm highly sensitive to fragrances - and unless you are, you can't understand what it's like to be trapped in a room feeling worse and worse because some idiot has dipped themselves in fragrance.
I can handle lightly spritzed people, but there are two women where I work that literally make me sick. Happily, I don't have to spend much time with them. |
C Bataille
Citizen
Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2484
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:08 am: |
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My asthma is regularly set off by many perfumes/colognes etc. Not fun. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 6868
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:13 am: |
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Instant, massive, excruciating headache. Nothing worse than being in a meeting with someone wearing perfume. |
The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1651
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:16 am: |
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lets all make a list of things we dont like, have the government ban them all, and then we can all sit in sterile white rooms and talk to ourselves for all eternity.
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
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Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 3100
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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I'm with Lib on this one, and I am one of those who has instant negative reactions (headaches, even nausea) to people who bathe in cologne. I mean, what will people try to legislate next?
Maybe we need legislation banning legislation that bans things like this? |
Meandtheboys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3162
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
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OMG. Somebody help me. I actually just laughed at something Loonitarian said! What's this world coming to?
Libby, actually the "government" didn't ban it, just the authorities at the school. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 6870
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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Uh-oh. Conundrum:
A high school is a public (governmental) entity, if you will. They make rules. Rules violate our individual freedoms.
I am starting to see Libby's point. The school should not be able to make this rule, which infringes on individual freedom. Students/teachers should be able to wear any scent they want. Or not bathe. Or carry guns. Or do drugs. Hell, why should students have to show up to pass a class? Just hand them all a diploma when they turn 18.... |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1653
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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slowly you all start to turn to the darkside. ::evil laugh::
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Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3565
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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There's a bus boy at the Parkwood Diner on Springfield Avenue in Mplwd. who habitually wears so much cologne that yesterday he totally killed the appetites of four adult diners, who simply got up and left without ordering.
Maybe the kid just works so hard that regular deodorants don't make a dent, but you'd think that in an eatery as well-intentioned as the Parkwood, the mgmt would notice & rectify the problem...
-s. |
tjohn
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Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4124
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:40 am: |
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Soda,
What happened to simple dialogue. For example:
Patron to Waiter: "Can you please come over here with the manager?"
Manager shows up.
Patron to Manager (in presence of waiter): "Sir, you waiter's cologne smelleth more vile than the stench of a thousand goats. I shall taketh my money elsewhere."
Let the free market work. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1654
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:47 am: |
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the free market?!?!?! those words are blasphemy on this board!
you will burn on the stake for the mere utterance! |
Stuart0628
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Username: Stuart0628
Post Number: 228
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Some people are extremely allergic to peanuts, to the point where they cannot be in the same room as a Snickers bar without getting sick.
Are you saying that a school should rescind the no nuts in the classroom rule and put a child's life at risk, because some kid might like to bring peanut butter cookies to share as a snack? |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1657
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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lets ban everything that is an allergen. lets pass a law that all children must wear haz-mat suits to ensure their safety. lets make the world rounded corners and nerf bumpers. lets stop all production of food and material that someone might have an allergy to. lets eradicate all stinging insects and geese with their infernal down. freedom must be removed in order to ensure our safety!
Make government the over protective mother that we all want it to be!! |
tom
Citizen
Username: Tom
Post Number: 4482
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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This is a high school we're talking about, they're not regulating a bunch of adults. Public school kids don't have the same rights that you have out in the world as an adult. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3566
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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tjohn: Either you're auditioning to write dialogue for the next Mel Brooks "History Of The World" movie, or you've been hanging out with my ex-boss.
BTW: "Lo, yon bus wastrel assaileth my nostril!
Gentle inkeeper! Hie him hence to the showers! His stench overpowers! I shall tarry no more in thine odious store, and what's more, as a jip, I shall render no tip!"
-s. |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2526
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:22 pm: |
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Stuart, I have not heard of people having deadly allergies to cologne. I am not saying there are none. I simply have not heard of any.
Libertarian, should parents of kids that have anaphylactic reactions be required to keep their kids at home so they can be safe? And please don't answer with hyperbole. |
KRNL
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Username: Krnl
Post Number: 26
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 6:22 pm: |
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I too am highly sensitive to perfumes. They can generate intense headaches.
At some department stores I seek entrances that do not open to the cosmetic department where there might be some evil salesperson trying to spray me with a noxious scent!
Generally I've found that when someone I work with uses a scent I am sensitive to all I need to do is nicely explain to them about my headaches. So far my co-workers have refrained from wearing perfume to work. |
eb1154
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Username: Eb1154
Post Number: 461
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 6:37 pm: |
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Who decides what is considered "strongly scented"?
Personally, I prefer the perfume over the BO.
Eric |
LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 3090
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 6:51 pm: |
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Does anyone know WHY all of a sudden there are so many people with these intense allergies? When I was growing up in the 50's-60's, I knew of no one with life threatening reactions to peanuts, perfumes,animal dander, lactose, etc. What changed? Anyone? |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5098
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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It is a strange occurence. They covered it on the Today show several months back, and for the life of me I can't remember. It is very strange the increase in reactions. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3567
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 9:54 pm: |
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Colognes & perfumes used to smell like flowers and aromatic herbs. Recently it seems like the outfits who sell this stuff think we all want to smell like cat piss or monkey sweat. Based on sales figures, I guess they're right...
-s. |
KRNL
Citizen
Username: Krnl
Post Number: 28
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:27 am: |
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I believe that currently we are more aware of things that cause allergies, etc. (more research, newer drugs and national advertisements, instant news reporting of the latest health reports, etc.)
Sometimes that doesn't seem to translate into any improvement in the quality of life for the rest of us. I really miss eating peanuts on airplanes.
Re perfumes. I had terrible headaches in high school. Ate aspirin like candy. Later I figured out it was self-inflicted because I was testing out fragrances in the hope that I might attract the opposite sex. That was decades ago. I've always felt it odd that there was so little awareness that perfume might inflict pain on innocent bystanders.
The only recognition was the increased availability of products without scents.
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SOSully
Citizen
Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1174
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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if you have asthma and you are stuck in a crowded train car with someone who has decided to take a bath in hideously malodorous perfume, you would welcome this legislation. trust me, it's no fun to have breathing difficulty and it's particularly distressing if it's caused by someone else's selfishness or lack of social awareness. |
SOSully
Citizen
Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 1175
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:15 am: |
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often I move, but sometimes it's not possible |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 2534
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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LL, some theorize that our obsession with cleanliness is part of it. The idea is that antibactierial soaps, overuse of antibiotics, sterile kitchens, not letting our kids get dirty, etc. reduce our exposure both disease and allegens, and so our bodies do not develop defenses.
I'm not sure I completely buy it, but it seems compelling. Or maybe I'm just trying to rationalize not cleaning up all the time... |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 12804
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:10 am: |
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LibraryLady, it is a mystery, but it's also true that allergies are on the rise. There are various theories, but I don't think anyone really knows.
I don't like the sound of this ban, either. I can deal with a temporary ban, when a student is severely allergic. And lift the ban after he's gone, until someone else severely allergic enters the school. That way, it's not a law or rule, just due consideration for someone's needs. If there is always someone severely allergic, so be it, but let the rule be a response to something that exists, not something that might exist.
EB, I prefer body odor to perfume. It takes all kinds.
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Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3571
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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It's a toss-up. Do I wanna sit next to a guy who smells like CK on acid, or one who smells like A-s-s?
-s. |
Shashalagoumba
Citizen
Username: Shashalagoumba
Post Number: 48
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 10:44 am: |
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Halifax instituted a fragrance free policy several years ago. Here's an article about it.
http://www.junkscience.com/july99/perfume.htm |
Joan
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Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7114
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 11:28 am: |
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I think the key here is that each student at the high school should have the right to be in an environment which is condusive to learning. If a student has a strong reaction (such as a bad headache, severe asthma attack, coughing and or sneezing fit, etc.) to perfume, cologne, or some other scent which can easily be eliminated from the classroom, then the school should react to this problem by banning such strong scents from the instructional areas of the school where such students are likely to be present. This provides a more equal learning environment for all the students.
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C Bataille
Citizen
Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2487
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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Joan, once again you've got it exactly right. |
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