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The Libertarian
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416909885/102-9725848-8001702?v=glance&n=28315 5

my new bible
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Case
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"And they say Jesus loved the little children, all the children of the world, but he never had to dine with one. He chose the lepers"

That line alone makes me want to buy this book.
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Purplebug
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YES!! YES!!! FREAKIN' YES!!
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 1:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't hate other people's kids. I hate it when parents raise rude kids. It's more their fault.
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The Libertarian
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it's not always about you, tom.

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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny, I thought you were looking for comments when you started the thread.
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Duncan
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

touche
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Nohero
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Is this the right room for an argument?"
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate people whose kids hate people who hate other people's kids.
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Jersey Boy
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found the "Customers who viewed this also viewed..." list kind of interesting.

J.B.
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Rastro
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, sometimes it is just the kids. Studies have shown that parents are not the overriding influence on their kids behavior that we'd like to believe. Though the % differs, I've read personality can be anywhere from 30-70% genetics rather than environment.

But then, I have two little angels, so I know it's all because of my influence...
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Joe R.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's the kids. It's not that the kids are so bad or that other people's kids are any worse than our own, it's just that you have no power to do anything about the behavior of other people's kids. That leads to pent up frustration and the feeling that sometimes you'd be better off if they weren't around.
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Bettina
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate when other people bring their kids over and they do these outrageously obnoxious things like open my pantry doors and look inside, uninvited, or jump all over my couches or demand things from me and the parents do nothing, I mean, NOTHING. And what are you supposed to say when you want to put them in their place (and you would if their parents weren't standing right there doing NOTHING). I hate that! It's definitely not the kids you hate. It's definitely the parents! If kids act awful and the parents do something right away like parents are supposed to then you can forgive the kids and feel sorry for the parents for being so embaressed by their kids. The book should be called I hate other kid's parents! Okay, I feel better now. Good night.
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ajc
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Posted on Wednesday, March 8, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

... other people's kids have never bothered me in a public setting half as much as my own.

Now their parents were a different story. I found more times than not that jerky, rude parents, raise jerky, rude children...

We all know that kids will be kids, but I would never allow my kids to disrupt others; parents that do should be brought to the town square and put in the stockcades...
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Duncan
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ajc....better still, parents who do that should be required to wait tables at Chucky Cheese's on a rainy winter saturday.
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Lucy
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Duncan that is the best line and reward
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Meandtheboys
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Bettina, if they're in your house doing things you don't want them to do, you have every right to say something to the child, particularly if the parent says nothing (are these people friends of yours? If not, why are they in your house at all?). You can just very calmly and clearly say to the child, "I'm sorry, but in our house the rule is we don't jump on the furniture (or help ourselves to things in the cabinet, or what have you)!" Or, "In our house, the rule is we always say please when we ask for a snack." Hopefully the parents will then get the message and stay on top of the kids. Could just be that the parents let their kids jump on furniture at home and just don't "get" that other people don't.
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Joe
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or simply, "Get the hell off the couch you little savage." Then let the chips fall where they may.
If you alienate the parents, they may never come by anymore, and you don't have to worry about their kids ruining your furniture.
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Purplebug
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's how I got out of babysitting my nieces and nephews. Auntie Bug's rules were just a little too different then Mom and Dad.
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Purplebug
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UGGH, I meant 'than' not 'then'. Sorry, one of my pet peeves.
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Oldstone
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 1:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

same for uncle oldstone...but now one of my sisters won't speak to me unless i apologize for having different rules than she does.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You won't be talking for a few years, I reckon. I agree that house rules are a good way to tackle that.

And Miss Manners has often spoken about the perils of parents who let the kids be kids without giving them rules. It's a terrible disservice to everyone.
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The Libertarian
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rotten, mucous covered, little vermin should be sold to china to make sneakers.
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wendy
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 7:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That must be that famous sense of humor that makes you so popular in the other, cooler message board. Huh?
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 8:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, I think it's funny. Don't you enjoy the image of him wrapped in mucous on the way to China?

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The Libertarian
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Posted on Thursday, March 9, 2006 - 9:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That must be that famous sense of humor that makes you so popular in the other, cooler message board. Huh?

oh, you must be confused, i wasnt trying to be funny.

but i am flattered at how you follow me around making comments about alot of my posts. you must want me real bad.
it's ok, dont hide your feelings , baby. alot of the ladies feel the way you do.
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Soda
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The book was quoted on the TODAY show this morning. And, for what it's worth, I think that in today's kid-centric world, many parents thoughtlessly flub their responsibility to be with their kids when out in public, allowing them carte blanch to run wild, make excessive noise, and in general be disruptive elements.

If you take your kid somewhere just to be with other adults, you're ignoring your job if you don't tend to the needs and behavior of that child.

Wanna let 'em go nuts at home? Cool. Just don't expect total strangers to put up with that sort of thing when you're at a nice, adult place. We won't coo and drool over you little darlings like Grandma and Aunt Gertie will. It's not our job.

-s.
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The Libertarian
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

parents are forever living under the mistaken assumption that everybody else finds their kids as darling as they do.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some parents are. And some of those manage to grow out of that mistaken assumption. But it's not true for all parents.

In fact, some people find that kids are more darling than their parents think they are.

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The Libertarian
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

those people should seek psychiatric help from a large team of doctors
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So should everyone else.
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Wendyn
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And some parents spend every second while they are out of the house trying to make sure their kids behave appropriately for overly-critical observers.

Here's a tip...if you don't like kids don't go to kid friendly restaurants at 5pm. If you see me at a supermarket with my kids don't assume I wanted to bring them there to whine.

I recently spent an hour in CVS saying "don't touch anything" to my kids about a zillion times while waiting for a prescription. I was not under any illusion that they were being adorable or precious. I was so furious at CVS (for telling me it would be 15 min - should have known better) and my kids (one of whome put the top of a soda bottle IN HER MOUTH - yes I bought it so don't worry) that I had to lock myself in my room for an hour when my husband got home. Of course my kids pounded on the door asking for mommy the whole time.

Kids go nuts sometimes. Parents sometimes overreact (me at CVS) and sometimes give up. Give them all a break.

That all being said it looks like a pretty funny book.
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Meandtheboys
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Wendyn said.
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dave23
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some people like to complain and imperfect children provide ample opportunity for that. Even before I had kids, I found behavior of adults far more offensive than I did kids.

On a side note, has anyone noticed that CVS's prescription department suddenly became VERY slow? Anyone know why?
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Purplebug
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ALL children are imperfect, there is no such thing as a perfect child.

Offensive adults/ offensive kids: both are equal pains in my butt. But usually when you interfere with offensive kids, you have a chance that they will grow up into great adults. Offensive adults, you just want to beat with a pitchfork. :-)

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