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HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 79
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:42 pm: | 
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Why is the interchange between I-78 and the Garden State Parkway so stupid? Among other things, getting from GSP North to 78 West. C'mon! |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1834
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |
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yeah! and why are there 8 hotdogs in a pack and ten hotdog buns in a pack?! i mean , really!!!
Also, why do men have nipples?!! unbelievable!!
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11099
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:57 pm: |
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Not installing a direct exit onto 24/78 West was very short sighted. I read something recently that the State is considering doing this but the cost, because of condemnations I think, is estimated to be well north of $100,000,000, although I may well be wrong about the number. |
hch
Citizen
Username: Hch
Post Number: 236
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 1:58 pm: |
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What is even more stupid is the price tag and timeline they have proposed for building all of the ramps that are missing. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 81
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:23 pm: |
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Libertarian - Try Oscar Meyer
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red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 5194
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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OOOOOOOOOOHhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wish I were an Oscar Meyer weiner..... |
Hank Zona
Supporter
Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5372
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:41 pm: |
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Im sure Sharon Stone has an opinion on weiners. |
Parkbench87
Citizen
Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 3905
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 3:50 pm: |
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As the great Cuban Philosopher Luis Tiant once said " It's great to be with a Weinner" |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1840
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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why do ostriches have wings? they cant fly! so whats the point?!?! i mean, for christ sakes!! |
Ligeti
Citizen
Username: Ligeti
Post Number: 638
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:26 am: |
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Road planning is not a science in New Jersey. Even our signs are silly. |
Suzanne Ng
Citizen
Username: Suzanneng
Post Number: 690
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:59 am: |
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Actually the hot dog vs buns thing should be the other way around... 10 hots dogs per pack, and 8 buns.
and here is a link for you:
http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/male_plastic_surgery/why_men_have_nipples.html |
The BARD
Citizen
Username: The_bard
Post Number: 33
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:29 am: |
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Lord, let me never have a cause to sigh,
Till I be brought to such a silly pass!
Speed open your purse, that the money and the matter may be both at once delivered.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4860066.stm
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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13300
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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My workplace blocks access to the site Suzanne refers to!
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Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 442
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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If you take the Rt. 22 exit on the parkway instead of the Maplewood exit...you end up basically in the same spot...and you dont have to pay a toll! |
Peter J. Watts
Citizen
Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 14
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 1:09 pm: |
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Glock, you mean the Union exit. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 83
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 2:08 pm: |
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The real issue I see everyday is this: when I drive 78 East (local), there are tons of people getting off the GSP and entering the right lane of 78 East (local) so they can get off on the Hillside exit to u-turn onto 78 West. This, of course, creates a back-up for those 78 East (local) thru-traffic folks. |
campbell29
Citizen
Username: Campbell29
Post Number: 393
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:10 pm: |
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What else would you expect from people who designed roads where it is impossible to make a left hand turn from the left lane. Not to mention the fact that exits on one side of the highway don't necessarily translate to exits on the other side of the highway. NJ roads are a mess. No wonder we have so many accidents and bad drivers. |
Starletta8
Supporter
Username: Starletta8
Post Number: 153
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:14 pm: |
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Was it short-sighted, or intentional (as is the case of no easy access to 280W from Route 21)?
It was my understanding that the latter used to have easy access, but the exit was modified. Is this the same as the GSP/78 deal? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13309
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:18 pm: |
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It's not short-sighted. It's because there wasn't enough space available to have a full interchange.
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Eats Shoots & Leaves
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 3180
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:21 pm: |
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I have read (though I can't find the source now) that the GSP did not have funds to purchase the land through eminent domain originally--so it was a cost saving measure that translated into a traffic nightmare and now will cost billions to fix.
Personally, when traffic is heavy, I go past 78 and get onto 280 and come into Maplewood through West Orange and South Orange. May be a little longer, but it is much easier on the soul (unless 280 is bollixed up). |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13312
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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I take the secret exit before the toll and meander through local streets back home.
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HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 86
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 4:52 pm: |
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I found this:
The New Jersey Turnpike Authority and the NJDOT plan to rebuild EXIT 142 (I-78) in Union Township. The $65 million project will supply the movements between the Garden State Parkway and I-78 that were left out when the westernmost section of I-278 (Union Freeway), which was to stretch from US 1-US 9 in Linden to the I-78 / NJ 24 interchange in Springfield, was canceled. At the present time, motorists leaving the northbound Garden State Parkway at EXIT 142 to go west on I-78 must first travel east on I-78 and make a U-turn at EXIT 54 (Essex CR 604 / Winans Avenue) in Hillside. Similarly, motorists leaving the southbound parkway at EXIT 142 to go east on I-78 must first travel west on I-78 and make a U-turn at EXIT 50 (Essex CR 630 / Vauxhall Road) in Vauxhall. Design work and land acquisition began in late 2000, but construction will not begin until at least 2007.
http://www.nycroads.com/roads/garden-state/ |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 445
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |
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Yeah the union exit..thanks pete watts |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1852
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:38 pm: |
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yeah, cause we are all so important that the extra 10 minutes we need to get home will cause the earth to stop turning!!!
relax, turn up the radio, and enjoy the you time. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 88
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 7:18 pm: |
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its not just that. its the lost productivity of all of the people the traffic affects. its the extra polution and drain on resources that idling creates. its the slowing down of the tansportation of goods. its the accidents caused by people in frantic lane "upgrading". the list goes on. collectively, there is a larger cost to stupid traffic designs. |
The Libertarian
Citizen
Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1859
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 7:23 pm: |
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the cato institute did a study that says that 10 minute drive is costing this country 220 billion dollars a year in lost productivity. a new exit would clear up the deficit in 13.7 years and ring in a golden age of love and prosperity for thes united states. |
John
Citizen
Username: Jdm
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:28 pm: |
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Ligeti,
What traffic signs? 
Seriouly though, they seem always to put the signs right where plants will grow over, or past the point where you needed to see them in order to catch the exit. "If you don't know where you're going, you've got no business going there."
Worse at the GS/78 interchange is that you have to go into the street just to get on 78 at all, nevermind not being able to go W without going E first.
I'm no fan of ubiquitous highways, but if you're going to do it, do it right. The backup on 78E because of traffic trying to go W is phenonemal at times.
Let's not even talk about the genius who narrowed the E-bound 24 traffic into two single stinkin' lanes where it merges with 78. Express and local!?!? Arghhh! |
GSP142
Citizen
Username: Gsp142
Post Number: 92
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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HOMMELL, the other hazardous thing I've seen going on on that stretch of 78 East are drivers who cut into the through traffic lanes, and then block a through traffic lane while trying to cut back into the exit lane, at the last minute, for the Hillside exit.
Drivers also do that when Route 280 East branches off from First Street in Newark--most of us are patiently merging into the two right lanes earlier on, while some "special" people travel on the rightmost lane of the First Street Exit until the very last opportunity to merge back into the lanes for 280 East.
Enough to make you want to move to Montana.... |
The Soulful Mr T
Citizen
Username: Howardt
Post Number: 1710
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 8:43 am: |
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...to be a dental floss tycoon. |
Alleygater
Citizen
Username: Alleygater
Post Number: 1519
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:06 am: |
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Libby, speaking of the cato institute, what ever happened to Cato Nova? |
sac
Supporter
Username: Sac
Post Number: 3315
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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Even if there were a decent exit from GSP to 78, it would still be faster to exit at Route 22. I didn't know it was a secret ... it's just the right way to go, at least if you live in the southern to middle portion of Maplewood. (i.e. the portion that might consider taking I-78.) For others, 280 is likely better, but not for my neighborhood. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13349
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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No, the exit for 22 isn't the secret exit.
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Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 451
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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I cut through the mcdonalds a bunch...which technically isnt legal |
anon
Supporter
Username: Anon
Post Number: 2644
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:36 pm: |
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I think McDonalds is what Mr. Reingold means by "the secret exit".
It's not illegal if you stop and order something.  |
crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 546
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 8:22 am: |
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I always take 142A. You have to pay the toll, but it puts you on Mill road in Union (is that Irvington?) and then stay straight onto Boyden. Up Boyden, left on Tuscan, and voila. |
Peter G. Magic
Citizen
Username: Pmagic
Post Number: 90
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 9:20 am: |
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The exit isn't advertised as it saves paying the toll. If enough of us start using it they will probably set up a little McDonald's toll booth - put the coins in Ronald McDonald's mouth as you pass. I always get on from the route 22 exit rhar Glock refers to and off at McDonalds. I am cheap, cheap, cheap! |
argon_smythe
Citizen
Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 804
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 1, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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The "secret exit" is not illegal at all. There is not one illegal move a motorist must make in order to use it. As for toll avoidance, there are many passages along the GSP which result in no toll. For instance, people living Livingston, Cranford, Clark may travel to the Woodbridge and Menlo Park Malls and back again toll-free.
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ken (the other one)
Citizen
Username: Ken
Post Number: 389
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 8:32 am: |
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There used to be tire barriers at the McDonalds locations which prevented you from using the rest stop as a cut through to get off the Parkway. I remember them being at the Union and Bloomfield locations. They were removed when motorists kept on running over them ruining their tires. |
Arnomation
Citizen
Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 522
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 1:35 pm: |
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And why is it that if you're traveling West on Rt. 78 Maplewood is Exit 50 but if you're travelling East, it's Exit 49???
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slipknot (slippy)
Citizen
Username: Zotts
Post Number: 281
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 5:37 pm: |
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I believe it is by mile marker number that determines exit number like on 80 and the GSP. |
SO Ref
Citizen
Username: So_refugee
Post Number: 1661
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 2, 2006 - 6:40 pm: |
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Maybe because they're a mile apart? Exit 49 puts you on Springfield Ave. near HD, while Exit 50 is at Vaux Hall Rd. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13366
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 12:22 pm: |
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They're different exits. Neither is in Maplewood. They are marked "Maplewood" because they are the best exits for Maplewood when you're going that way.
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