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Soda
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Posted on Friday, April 7, 2006 - 9:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hch:
A)I'll wager that your landlord never wrote out the name, and therefore
2)I accuse you of injecting the "erg" into a spot where the more geographically common "urg" would easily have fit.

Glock's right. Immaturity and prejudice are all in the mind...

-s.
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bella
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

soda, I'll be Pollyanna here and suggest poor spelling as the cause of berg vs. burg.

I don't have kids, but if I heard my nephews say Maplehood or Jewstead, they'd get a lecture they'd never forget. If I did have kids, I'd like to think that they would know better than to say something like that in front of me.
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K_soze
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I graduated CHS in '94, the term Maplewood was floating around back then. It's strictly a CHS thing.
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Nohero
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soda - Don't be too hard on hch. It's very possible that the landlord did mean "Mapleberg", that is, was not meaning to use the geographical "burg".

As for "Hood-Wood-Good", in the end, it doesn't really matter.

They're all part of "Mapleberry".
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Soda
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 1:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to worry, guys. My tongue was firmly planted in my cheek, since (sorry, bella) I can scarcely think of anything more typically teen than to create derisive or mocking names for one's community and its institutions. As an example, while students there, my kids used to refer to SOMS as "the pink prison".

-s.

BTW: Anybody who knows me IRL knows that people chronically misspell and mispronounce my name, (either by accident or on purpose), and have since I was a kid... as a result, I'm not in the least sensitive about this sort of thing, and probably have adopted a more forgiving approach to it than those unnaccustomed to such garbled spellings...
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Rudbekia
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 3:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of course kids call the areas of Maplewood those things, and I'm surprised anyone would think that these designations would come from parents. The kids here are acutely aware of their socioeconomic standing, and I think it's incredibly naive not to be aware of this or pretend these things don't exist. That said, it's up to us [duh] to try to raise decent kids who don't judge others on socioeconomic standing. But let's not pretend our kids don't notice.

An example: I was walking to pick up my kids from school a few days ago and on the way I overheard this conversation among 3 middle school boys, 2 African-American and 1 white, and despite the content, they appeared to be friends:

white boy: "You're poor, I'm rich."
[protesting comments from the 2 other boys.]
white boy: "You live in an apartment, that means you're poor."
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Lydia
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rudbekia,

That sounds bizarre, but I suppose it's true. BTW, unless the rich kid is mowing a lot of lawns, he's not rich, his parents are.

Everyone grows up in a place where there are "rich" and "poor."

It's all relative.

Kids look at a big house and think "rich", an apartment "not so rich", if they have their priorities straight it's just an observation and not a value judgment.

How many of us can live for 6 months on just our savings? How many never carry a balance on our credit cards - or pay for everything in cash? Probably very few.

These are the nuances that kids should be taught from around the time they understand 4 quarters equal a dollar, 2 dollars equals a comic book and a week of taking out the trash = 1 new comic book or 10 at a garage sale.



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N. Bonaparte
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydia, you seem like a great mom. I always try to do things like that too. I hope I'm as successful as you appear to be.
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Lydia
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Posted on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

N Bona -

Thanks for the kind words.

I have a "Mentor Mom" plus my Mom-Mom, plus lots of friend-Moms that I admire and copy - nothing wrong with copying when it works!
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kegel
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 2:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People have most probably been labeling different parts of town since the begining of civilization. There have always been "good" and "bad" parts of town.

In reference to the creative names, I remember back in the late 70's in Millburn we didn't like kids from Summit, which we refered to as 'Scummit.' I also remember many people going down the shore in the summer, to 'Sleazeside.' Believe me, this is nothing new.
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mamatamu
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 2:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I first heard the term "Maplehood" from an adult who had to move to that side of town. Then my middle school aged child reintroduced me to the term and made the distinctions between the good, the wood and the hood. She also told me there was a Gayplewood.
Maybe at some point there will be a Gayplehood and a Gayplegood too.

Sardonically yours


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Bob K
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 6:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh for the good old days when Maplewood neighborhoods were defined by the local elementary school; Seth Boyden, Clinton, Tuscan, Jefferson.

The first time I heard the hood, good and wood names was here on MOL. Also Tom, unless your friend lived here in the last ten or so years the "hood" term (which I think everyone agrees applys to south of Springfield and maybe east of Boyden) didn't apply. Prior to the mid 1990s and some of the biggest block busting activities since Bensonhurst thirty years before, Hilton was probably, with the exception of the Jefferson area, the least integrated part of town. The area was about 90 percent white.
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ajc
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 1:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where are the boundaries?

Where else but in the boundaries of your mind...
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jersey Boy
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adults make all kind of generalizations too.

Ever heard of bourgeois bohemian?

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,319350,00.html

Not sure why that one came to mind...

J.B.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...sounds a lot like our little slice of paradise here in Mapleberry (but I guess you knew that!)...
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Glock 17
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Posted on Sunday, April 9, 2006 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only two real names are Maplewood and Maplehood. The rest you all just made up...and are exceedingly lame.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 8:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Real? Might that be because you and your peer group didn't coin it?

I like the movie Wayne's World (and the SNL that gave birth to it) because largely, it's about how teenagers invent language. And of course, we who are older than teens have disdain for their contributions.
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still haven't read why "Maplehood" is deragatory. All this hoopla makes me think there's a lot of overly sensitive people on MOL.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha Tom. EXACTLY. It doesn't have to be logical at all.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We Maplehooders are proud of such a term....we use it freely...
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rachael
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have some friends who call it Nipplewood. Everywhere you go someone is nursing a baby or pregnant.

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