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CM Townsend
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Username: Cm_townsend
Post Number: 130
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:35 am: | 
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The liberal position that white racism is the main cause of the academic achievement gap between whites and blacks is a completely defunct and destructive paradigm that must be discarded. While the majority of sensible individuals, both white and black, rationally believe that overt racists are not teaching in the SO/M school system, liberal ideologues circumvent this popular wisdom by stating that the current form of racism has insidiously infiltrated the unconscious minds of the white populace, except, of course, liberals, who because of supreme intellect, political sensibilities and moral fortitude are uncontaminated.
Liberal ideologues promulgate that these implicit white assumptions about blacks ultimately determine everything within the academic community: test grades, homework grades, academic placement (or levels), SAT scores, state and national tests, and college placement. Every scholastic assessment is tainted by white assumptions about blacks. Therefore, if blacks do not achieve academically, even on objective standardized tests, it is exclusively the result of white racism.
Because of this position, liberals have completely absolved the black students of all responsibility, for it is the dominant white culture that ultimately controls their destinies. They have unwittingly created a deterministic universe, producing a situation where black students are always doomed to fail. Actually, this position is exceptionally condescending towards blacks as it basically implies that they are unable to direct and change their own lives without the assistance of a few altruistic white liberals who will come to their rescue. Furthermore, this shows unabashed arrogance by stating that only they can effectuate black academic achievement and, obviously, not the blacks themselves.
Not only has this liberal position indirectly led to the perpetuation of the systemic problems within the black community because the real issues are never addressed but it has also created a black culture of hate and resentment towards whites. Without an ideology of personal empowerment and responsibility, black students will always feel helpless because they are taught that no matter how hard they try, they will always fail because of inherent white racism, which can never be completely eradicated, even through forced diversity training, for it is so engrained in the western psyche that no amount of analysis can cure the problem.
Therefore, the only solution is for the liberal ideologues to impose a system of quotas in the schools that would fight white institutional racism. Proportional representation is the first step; further steps will include a modification of the grading system in the schools and of national and state tests, as well as the SAT. The only solution is to manipulate the school system and all academic assessments in order to level the playing field, ensuring that there will be equity of results at all costs. Remember, the end will eventually justify the means.
Of course, however, there are many complicated social factors at work that produce the academic achievement gap, but the liberal obsession with white racism negates an efficacious discussion of the real social factors—such as an abundance of one-parent families that obviously does not provide stability, a culture that glorifies anti-social behavior through rap music, a belief that only sports and entertainment will lead to success, and a hostile attitude towards learning in which black students who succeed are pejoratively labeled as “acting white”—that affect black academic achievement because liberals obsessively preach that racism is the only cause. Any discussion will always fall back on clandestine racist views within the white community, which, therefore, closes the door on an effective dialogue that could ameliorate the problems.
Until liberal ideologues discard their deterministic, patronizing and thoroughly negative philosophy that views blacks as perpetual victims, the serious problems facing black students will never be adequately addressed and will continue unabated in perpetuity.
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dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1658
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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Are you some sort of bot? The hideous writing makes it seem so.
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tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4731
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7236
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:06 pm: |
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C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2552
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
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Gee, Charles, not getting enough traction for your vision in the Education section? Had to drag it this way as well? Really, I think it belongs in the Political Soapbox area where you might find a few more kindred souls or at least some sparring partners.
On the other hand, multiple posting of the same thing constitutes spam, something most MOLers and our dear moderators abhor. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13639
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:29 pm: |
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Strawman alert! And I am not talking about Strawberry.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 7238
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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I'd say not to feed the troll, but Tom already put out his lunch.... |
The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew
Post Number: 1949
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:45 pm: |
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I think it makes alot of sense. alot of the points it makes about the liberal position are proven everyday on this message board. |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1659
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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There is a point to be made, but this screed is so overwritten that it's nearly unintelligible. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1230
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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CM-
You go boy! By the looks of it you definitely struck a nerve or two. Those critical of your words don't have too look to far to confirm them but are too arrogant or lazy (or both) to do so...
The liberal philosophy regarding education must also learn that you cannot solve problems by throwing more money at it. Obviously that hasn't worked either. For the most part, money has nothing to do with education.
-SLK |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1661
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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For the most part, money has nothing to do with education.
The quote of the day, for sure. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13641
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 1:36 pm: |
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We won't argue this because he is attacking views that no one actually espouses. But he is clearly very strong, because he can knock down that strawman in just a few paragraphs.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1233
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 1:38 pm: |
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dave23-
And that is why I am not surprised by your response.
I hope someone puts this quote on billboards in every •••••• school district in the nation.
Educating children involves two things. The children's drive to learn and parental participation. All else is secondary.
-SLK |
C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2556
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 2:52 pm: |
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Yeah, that's right, who needs them damned expensive teachers and buildings and books and lab equipment anyhoo?! Tear down the buildings! Demand your kids' right to learn their alphabet in the dirt. Oooh, Notorious and Charles, what brilliance! Perfect together. |
dave23
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Username: Dave23
Post Number: 1667
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 2:58 pm: |
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You are right, but that only helps up to a point, unless the parents build the buildings, teach the classes, clean the classrooms, grow the food and make the lunches. |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 357
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 3:55 pm: |
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You can lead a horse to the best and most expensive trough, with the best and most pure water, but, you can't make that horse drink.
jd |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 13654
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 4:11 pm: |
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So in your scenario, are African Americans the horses?
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4220
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 5:30 pm: |
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While there can and should be discussion of educational success factors that are beyond the control of the school system, CM Townsend seems more interested in a general trashing of liberalism, whatever it might mean to him. |
CM Townsend
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Username: Cm_townsend
Post Number: 131
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 7:45 pm: |
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The Great Liberal Awakening
The truth does hurt for those who cannot see,
For it reveals the things they have denied
And makes them wish that they could simply flee
From their once strong but now so wounded pride.
Yet light itself is often not enough
To bring the prisoners out from their cave,
For the long journey does seem very tough,
Especially for those who are not brave.
Therefore, throw stones at those heroic men,
Forcing them from this place that you call home,
So you can then feel comfortable again
Inside your dark and insulated dome.
Thus stand with friends until you’ve reached that time
When you are ready for that worthy climb.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1237
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 9:12 pm: |
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C. Bataille-
Teachers, buildings, books and labs fall under "secondary" smarty pants...
NYC Catholic schools pay considerably less per student then the public schools and get better results. Why is that?
-SLK |
C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2560
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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I strongly disagree from my experience as a student that teachers are secondary in education. And for some of us, success in school and life happens in spite of our parents, not because of them. And for me, at least, teachers provided the lifeline that made it possible. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:07 pm: |
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C. Bataille,
Actually I agree and retract teachers out of the secondary category. They are truly important...
-SLK |
tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 4737
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:09 pm: |
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How are you supposed to learn complex subjects like algebra, physics, literary interpretation, music theory, or even football, without a teacher?
Nobody disputes the absolute importance of involved parents. That's why Catholic -- and for that matter most any of the private -- schools show better average results. The kids there are there because they have more involved parents, on average, than in public schools. |
GOP Man
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Username: Headsup
Post Number: 316
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:25 pm: |
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SLK is the only one of you who's smart enough to realize how unimportant buildings are in educating children. if they're motivated enough, kids should be able to learn in the middle of a frozen cornfield in December. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 4680
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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tom-
What is that a picture of? |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 1952
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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CM townsend's bloviating prose can be off-putting, but he makes a cogent point, and, strangely enough, so does SLK, when he, god forbid, talks about the success stories of many Catholic schools, and when he talks about parental participation supporting the drive to learn.
At a time when our young people's competitiveness in the job market is in peril because of the wage structure combined with skill structure of foreign competitors, we have to make sure that our children, black, white or indifferent, get every bit of education and skill that they can... or we'll all be looking at a nation of hamburger flippers and Wal-mart floor personnel on the one hand and a minority of extremely wealthy non-productive consumers on the other, a set-up for the perfect class society.
It may appear to be a black vs white problem now, but it is becoming an American vs rest of the world problem.
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Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 3739
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:08 am: |
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JTA: It ain't Shinola...
-s. |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 631
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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That is why I am going into television! Can't outsource that...well...yet... |
The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1243
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 3:44 pm: |
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Tom-
Good points, but I was using Catholic schools more for the difference in cost per student...
-SLK |
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