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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1759
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not quite sure why smoking bans, religion, institutional racism and education is all OK to reside in the Soapbox but abortion and adoption issues (among other topics) must be relegated (or literally moved) to the Soapbox Politics section. The rule regarding what topics should go where is unclear, biased and downright stupid.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 7277
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you bored?
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Hoops
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Username: Hoops

Post Number: 1114
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Rick B
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Username: Ruck1977

Post Number: 1075
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please move this to the "please help" section.

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Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona

Post Number: 5485
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"What are wire hangers doing in this closet when Ive told you: no wire hangers EVER! We'll see how many you've got if they're hidden somewhere. We'll see... we'll see. Get out of that bed. All of this is coming out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. Out. You've got any more? We're gonna see how many wire hangers you've got in your closet. Wire hangers, why? Why?"
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1955
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

people who have absolutely nothing to post, but feel like they have to post, and post only a smilie, should be beaten with their own limbs and then put in stocks in the village square so that all may mock them for being the uninteresting, unoriginal, posting hacks that they are.

just my opinion.
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1376
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we should work out a complex system of quotas - the occasional smiley post is fine, if it's balanced by more substantial postings.
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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1762
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just think it's bullspit is all. Numerous threads that I wrote a while ago were moved without any notification and with no rhyme or reason. I might go so far as to state that my posts were THE EXAMPLE (the first) for a newly created rule. And now in the Soapbox there are loads of threads that I personally couldn't care less about but are equally as POLITICAL as anything I wrote. Sure, I could send an email over to Dave and Jamie and complain (something I ABHOR when others do this) or I could speak up and call a spade a spade. There are stupid double standards going on here(sure nothing new) and I don't much care much for it.

When the threads were first moved, I asked for clarification and what I got instead was "I know it when I see it". That is not clarification as far as I'm concerned. I waited a while to see how or if this issue would get handled, and now I see...it won't. People do whatever they want and nothing happens unless someone complains to the admins.

You can tease me and state that this is just Alley being bored or crazy that's fine, but I think you are overlooking the problem that I am addressing. Are you the ones whining to Dave? Are you the squeaky wheel? Also, I think it is good for the users of the board to discuss how we use this digital medium. It helps when we agree on how to participate, or at least there are few simple guidelines. If you aren't interested in the conversation than don't participate. But you don't have to put me down for initiating it.

PS: I love you too Libby and feel the same way about your posts. just my opinion.
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Mayor McCheese
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Post Number: 1173
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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dave23
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Post Number: 1669
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alley, you seem to be the only one with this problem.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1956
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

PS: I love you too Libby and feel the same way about your posts. just my opinion.

actually, i wasnt referring to you, but your insecurity is a delicious treat.
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Hoops
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Post Number: 1117
Registered: 10-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1763
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 13736
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Username: Casey

Post Number: 2039
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread illustrates what I've believed for years. Jamie and Dave need to inaugurate a new section of the Message Board called "Get a Life."
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Monster©
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Post Number: 2813
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know it's only done to piss you off, you and only you....


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Libby
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2374
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I KNOW that Wendy put you up to this!
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1280
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr. Boogie-

Thank you, oh thank you for sharing my thoughts exactly.... :-)

-SLK
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MBJ
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Username: Mbj

Post Number: 209
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not a big fan of Boogie's, but I have to admit his last post was dead on.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 13740
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But who would sign onto the "get a life" section?!

There once was an internet mailing list called "clueless". The rules for getting on were not published. If you violated the rules of certain other lists, the moderators would put you on the clueless mailing list. People would mail around saying, "how did we get here?" The only way out was NOT to post anything for a while. So the more clueless you were, the more time you spent there.
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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1764
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It has been discussed NUMEROUS times on MOL how most of the people who use this board need to get a life.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1283
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alley-

Did you missed this weeks shrink visit? Should we expect another angry letter to your Republican neighbor shortly?

-SLK
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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1765
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLicK,
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 1957
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the basis for who should post there should be the post per day ratio that i have previously created a thread about
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 6222
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Again...this is not a publicly funded or run message board. It is the result of the work of two guys who can do whatever they want with it. Alley, you just have to deal. It is great that Maplewood has this board, but it doesn't belong to maplewood it belongs to the brothers Ross. Stop trying to figure things out and post in threads that interest you, no matter where they are.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 13751
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And to take that a point further, I think the Ross brothers have the best of intentions to be fair. But there are at least N+1 definitions of fair for N users, so they will definitely do things that appear to be unfair. Their goal should not be to make everyone feel that they are fair.
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Dave
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Post Number: 9249
Registered: 4-1997


Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 5:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I often lie awake at night dwelling on these issues. Just last night I was pondering whether "Tom Cruise is a Nutcase" should go in Soapbox, Arts & Entertainment or Food & Dining.
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2376
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not that funny Dave. That opinion from me, however, should keep you awake.
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ML
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Post Number: 2980
Registered: 5-2002


Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 5:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,
I want you to know that I was burned up at you for a couple of weeks, and this thread gives me a chance to vent. How come "Who sends you Spam?" is in the Virtual Cafe and not Food, Wine, Dining & Travel. If someone wants to start a thread about ordering processed meat by mail, why the hell wouldn't they put it in the Food category? I've been thinking about it, and I can't get it out of my head. It seems biased, unclear, and downright stupid. I got over it for awhile, but now this thread's got me going again.




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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 7298
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 6:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seriously, It can be difficult sometimes to decide where a thread belongs when there are so many categories to choose from. The subjects mentioned at the start of this thread: smoking bans, religion, institutional racism, education, abortion and adoption have social and economic aspects as well as political ones. To the extent that a rational and consistent distinction can be made, I suppose the appropriate location decision would be based on the tone and drift of the conversation as much as anything else.

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anon
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Post Number: 2672
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan: You made me laugh.

No one posted on this silly thread for three days and then you start off with "Seriously".
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Chris Prenovost
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Username: Chris_prenovost

Post Number: 839
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seriously . . . Dave & Jamie created and maintain this board, and as such they can do as they damn well please.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 7449
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that all of Chris' posts should go in "Food". Master Plumber, Mike McKell, etc. in "Home Fix It". Joan in "Maplewood - government", Reingold in "Tech". And on and on.

If people post in their professions, there won't be anymore problems. Reingold is still a techie whether he's discussing parties or my tulips, right?
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 13906
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm trying to figure out how to change careers. If I could wave a magic wand, I might be a school teacher or a social worker tomorrow. Do I have to wait until that happens before I can change sections?
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Chris Prenovost
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Post Number: 840
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

'Food'??

I would think they would create a whole new section called 'very frustrated Republicans who think that deficits, civil liberties, and honesty in government do matter'.
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Alleygater
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Username: Alleygater

Post Number: 1790
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris: I have repeated what you typed VERBATIM numerous times. That isn't being disputed. We all know that Dave and Jamie can do what they please.

But this is a community whereby loads of people use this tool. There should be an understanding on how we are supposed to act while using this medium. Things get problematic when there are double standards, unclear rules and preferential treatment. I think it's fine for people to discuss what things work and don't work for them. How else will our community improve?
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 13908
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alleygater, for the most part, it doesn't matter where you post something. If you choose a place that the consensus says is wrong, there is rarely a repercussion, and when there is, it is rarely big. So relax and post where you want.

When you are at a party, the topics of discussion morph every minute or so. No one announces the title of the discussion, and no one shuns another for getting off topic. Why are we more rigid when online?
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou

Post Number: 107
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I mentioned before I was out on Tuesday and was talking to two seperate people who had just moved to the neighborhood. I mentioned MOL to them and they froze, broke eye contact and looked kind of frightened. Both said they went on once or twice and thought the people that post there are kind of scary.

Well the nerve of them.....LOL
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 7451
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't get that reaction. In fact, most people think that TS is me. It's kind of funny......

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