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maplescorp
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Post Number: 147
Registered: 12-2005


Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.njmonthly.com/toptowns/townlist.lasso

I'm hardly an expert at anything local, so I'll leave this to all you to work out. Nice to see Maplewood beating out Montclair I suppose...
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Hoops
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and South Orange at 198 whoo hoo!
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 13798
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 2:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clicking on each town gives some very interesting statistics.

Looking at the list, I have no urge to move anywhere else!

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HOMMELL
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 3:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And Princeton Twp. at 348
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xavier67
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fact that there is such a wide gap in rank between Maplewood (#39) and South Orange (#198), two towns similar in many ways, makes you question the whole methodology behind the ranking.

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tom
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Post Number: 4791
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One need only look at the "craters" along South Orange Ave. Still excited about that gourmet market that's coming soon?
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greenetree
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah - I want to know the methodology myself. There are too many anomalies.
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Dave
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 5:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the methodology is to scan their advertisers and make sure those areas are promoted.
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susan1014
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 6:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had this discussion in the South Orange section a few weeks ago. If you look at the online methodology in detail, the only major difference between the two towns is the percentage of open space, which is much higher for Maplewood. Obviously most of this difference is due to the inclusion of a portion of South Mountain Reservation in Maplwood's town boarders.

So although that part of Maplewood is closer to my South Orange home than it is to most Maplewood homes, Maplewood gets credit for it in both the best towns list and the crime stats (a mixed blessing indeed!).
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mooewe
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Post Number: 336
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, this is nagging at me - help me out here. There's a statistic related to the median home prices in 2000 and 2005, and in Maplewood it went from $207,000 to $405,000. Then it says "Change in median price" is 196%. Isn't it a change of about 100% - or double? A 200% change would be about $400,000, wouldn't it?

I need a life.
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Case
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Post Number: 1390
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does Maplewood get so windy on some days?

Because South Orange sucks and Montclair blows.


I'm just kidding - I swear.
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curmudgeon
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Post Number: 760
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should note that Maplewood is also #2 - among towns with more than 20,000 residents.
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red
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Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found it quite interesting. Towns I thought were going to be much higher, such as Summit, were quite low on the list IMO.
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susan1014
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Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is all in the very detailed criteria that they use, which are carefully laid out online. Seemingly sane criteria can lead to "interesting" results, as with the open space driven difference between Maplewood and South Orange.
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Carl Thompson
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Post Number: 199
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Curmudgeon,

You will also find that Newark is No. 1 among cities over 250,000 in population.
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 13825
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't it also last?
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Case
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Post Number: 1403
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 1:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's very Zen.
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Bob K
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Post Number: 11301
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 1:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mooewe:

405,000 divided by 207,000 is 195.365%, which rounds to 196%. :-)

I don't think effective tax rate is factored into the equation. If it were the results would be different.
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bklyntonj
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Post Number: 689
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are correct Bob K.

If someone wanted to know how much of a % increase that is in house prices the equation would be:

405,000 - 207,000 = 198,000
198,000 / 207,000 = .9565217391...
96%
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jeffl
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Post Number: 1669
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 4:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mendham is 397. Yeah, who would ever want to live there?
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Joel Janney
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Post Number: 47
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mooewe is correct. The new price is 196% of the old price, but the change in median price is 96%. If the median price were still $207,000, the change would be 0%, not 100%.

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