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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 117
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stay off my lawn.

Don't let your dog poo on my lawn. If your dog wants to poo on a lawn, let him poo on your lawn. keep him off my lawn. Don't think that just because I have dogs I won't notice extra poo on my lawn.

Also, don't let your dog pee on my lawn. It kills the grass.

Don't let your dog walk on my lawn. My lawn is my property. You are tresspassing. Keep your dog on the sidewalk.

Most importantly, why were YOU standing in the middle of my lawn? You were tresspassing. Keep your lab's paws and your paws off, buddy.

Now that I'm thinking about it, did your dog dig up my daffodils? Daffodils are deer proof. You suck.

I will put up a webcam if this continues.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 2022
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

once his feet hit your property, he is trespassing and you would be well within your rights to pepper him with a rock salt filled shotgun.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 802
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not get a fence, some barbed wire, a few searchlights and a few guardtowers? Lay down some landmines while you are at it. Stay home 24/7...never go out! setup contiuous surveillance with power and tape backups!

Btw. Webcams are too low res to catch anything valuable.
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 118
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

all good ideas and you're right about the webcam.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 803
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 9:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

personal favorites of mine are Golems and autocannons.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 2024
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i like pungee sticks and tiger traps. old school, baby!
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 805
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im pretty sure for a cool 100 mil a year you can employ the services of a Predator..heres his resume

predator
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 2026
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Monday, May 1, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you are gonna go, go Gurkha!
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Catastrophe
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Username: Cat

Post Number: 83
Registered: 6-2003


Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 2:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a mean cat to kick that dog's .
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catmanjac
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Username: Catmanjac

Post Number: 169
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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tjohn
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Post Number: 4287
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Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Typical cat. Ambushing a dog instead of coming out to fight fair.
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catmanjac
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Username: Catmanjac

Post Number: 170
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 2:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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have your little girl take care of it.
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou

Post Number: 137
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 5:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow that is a scary picture....

I don't know what's worse..

The machine gun or the 5 inch red heels on that 12 year old.
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The Libertarian
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Username: Local_1_crew

Post Number: 2029
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 6:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i had a good joke to use here but knew it would offend those without a sick sense of humor.
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Fabulouswalls
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Username: Fabulouswalls

Post Number: 59
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, May 2, 2006 - 7:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do tell...
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catmanjac
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Username: Catmanjac

Post Number: 173
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 5:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't mind a person walking on my property, but after unknowingly stepping in dog poop and tracking it through my house, I think the innocent dog's owner is a lazy, inconsiderate, low-life. It should happen to him.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 14040
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Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, but it's Shawna's property, and she has the prerogative to get annoyed if anyone steps on it, even with clean shoes and no dog.
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 120
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, May 3, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he was close enough to peer into windows.. creepy.
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Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo

Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Listen, I love dogs. It's not their fault. It's the owners.

I don't want dogs shitting and pissing on my lawn.

I don't even want them pissing on my city strip that I have to maintain.

Owning a pet is a huge responsibility. One has to train a pet to pee in the curb, not on the grass. It's called "curbing your dog"

I've gotten to the point where when someone lets a dog pea on my }lawn, I kindly ask them to curb their dog.

C'mon people. Train your animals!


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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 14246
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, I think the grassy strip is for dogs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I really believe that's the way it is.
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Rastro
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Post Number: 3104
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, I'm pretty sure that grassy strip is not there specifically for dogs to pee on. Are you saying it's intent is for dogs to use, or that it has become customary for dogs to use it?
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 14247
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not saying we put the strip there expressly for dogs. I'm saying that there is consensus that it's OK for dogs to use it.

Given canine nature, they do like to use a soft, smelly place better than a hard, barren place. I think it's nearly impossible to get them to forgo the grassy strip in favor of the street.

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Chris Prenovost
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Post Number: 923
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even the berm will not solve the problem. We have inconsiderate mutton-headed dog owners who constantly leave their dog poop on our berm. Most people are pretty good about cleaning up after their canines, but a disturbing minority make sure no one is watching, then sneak away.

My wife caught one guy doing just that. She said 'excuse me sir, did you forget something?' He sheepishly pulled a baggie out of his pocket and did what he should have done originally.
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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 14251
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 5:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris Prenovost, now you are widening your definition of "the problem." Your problem is dog owners letting their dogs use the berm and not cleaning up afterwards. If they clean up, I call that a legitimate use of the berm.

Shawna and Tuxedo want dogs off their lawns. That is their prerogative.

Tuxedo wants dogs off his berm. That's a gray area. I believe he doesn't have that discretion, though if someone on my street asks me to keep my dog off his berm, I will comply to be a good neighbor, not because I have an absolute duty to do so.

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Alleygater
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Post Number: 2001
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 5:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A nasty witch hollered at me from her window one morning to make sure my dog stopped peeing on her berm. I comply, not because the law is in her favor, but because she has proven to be a nasty neighbor and I want nothing to do with her.
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Flameretardant
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just to clarify ... the law treats the berm just as it treats sidewalks, i.e., it is a public area, but one which the adjacent homeowner is responsible to maintain. (That's the "price" we pay for the privilege of easy access to our property.) One cannot dictate how the berm is used anymore than one can dictate who can and who cannot walk on a section of the sidewalk. So a homeowner's demand not to let Fido poop on that nice grassy strip has absolutely no legal standing. However, it is certainly rude not to clean up afterward - and as a dog owner, I take that very seriously.
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Lizziecat
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Post Number: 1227
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not only rude to not clean up after your dog; in South Orange, at least, there is a town ordinance that says you are required to do so, no matter where poochie has made his deposit.
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Glock 17
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Post Number: 883
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a Blastoise! Go, Blastoise! Hyrdo-pump attack!
blast
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Shawna
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Username: Lucies_mom

Post Number: 125
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why is it called a 'berm?'

The 'berm' is a pee and poo magnet for dogs. If your dog doesn't WANT to go in the 'berm', it's a weird dog...which is why is is absolutely ridiculous that this dude was in the middle of my lawn. I have a perfectly good 'berm' for all dogs to use! Welcome.







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catmanjac
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Post Number: 212
Registered: 2-2004


Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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this should solve the problem
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Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo

Post Number: 9
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

S.O. says that we must maintain the berm. How can I do so when there is uric acid killing my grass?

Then, I have to replant the grass to maintain it. I have to spend the money.

Dogs can be trained to piss and pee in the same place every single day. As a former City resident and dog owner, I took my lab into the street every day and she peed and pooped there. I think it is rude, selfish and inconsiderate to use the berm as your dog's toilet.

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Tom Reingold
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Post Number: 14559
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Posted on Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 2:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I disagree, only because the consensus is that this is what we will have our dogs do (no pun intended).

But just this week, a neighbor of mine asked me not to let my dog go on the berm in front of her house, because she has a two year old daughter. I have no problem with that. I treat it as a special request, and I will not let my dog go on THAT berm.

I don't think dog waste -- that the owner cleans up -- hampers your efforts to maintain the grass reasonably.
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mjc
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Post Number: 1155
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Posted on Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

asking, for information, in a very small voice, if the owner has a yard, as most everyone in M/SO does, why can't the dog go there? That's what my sister's dogs have done, since time immemorial.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dog needs to walk to get his functions going. So he can't pee on our lawn. And he needs to pee several times in a walk. He can't let it all out at once, as humans do on toilets.

Dogs are territorial and won't poop on their own turfs unless they spend lots of time on it. And in that case, they usually choose a far corner of the turf, separate from all the rest. In other words, they designate a corner as "not theirs."

My property is small, and we have no fence, so there's no chance whatsoever of him pooping on it. I wouldn't mind if he did it, but it just won't happen.

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Alleygater
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Post Number: 2166
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Posted on Thursday, June 1, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MJC, my backyard is fenced in and my dog uses the backyard all the time. But going out is how I bond with my dog, is a necessity for training purposes and is literally my dogs one and only highlight to it's day of being all alone in my house. I kid you not, when I get home, my dog goes and gets his own leash and brings it to me, LITERALLY telling me that he wants to go out. And I do not mean into the backyard. I open up the back door and he wont go out back. I mean he will to go out back and pee or poop, but then will come right back in and ask to be walked.

On those walks, he pees on everything that stands up out of the ground. If it's vertical it gets peed on. What you should realize is that usually my dogs bladder is completely (or nearly completely) empty and he only releases a drop or two, and later into the walk, he is completely spent. Having said that, he still goes through the motions. So just because you see the dog appearing to be in mid pee on your berm, doesn't actually mean there is any pee. Also it should be noted that even though my dog poops in my yard, doesn't mean that he won't start to poop more on the walk. I think the smell of other dogs sometimes INSPIRES him to contribute his own sample. If my dog is squatting on someones yard, I will pull him off, even in midpoop (sorry pooches). If he is doing it on the berm. I'm sorry neighbor, I'll clean it up. Also of note since we are talking about all things scat, my dogs poop is almost always pretty firm, and easy to clean up. Dog food is engineered to do this.

Now Tuxedo. My neighbor complained that my dog was responsible that her berm had pee stains on it. She was a nasty old hag and went about it rudely. So I don't pee on her berm anymore. But you don't own the berm. And I don't think when the town stated that you needed to maintain it, that they insisted it not be discolored. Do you really feel that the berm needs to be gorgeous like the rest of your lawn? To me that seems a bit excessive.
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Tuxedo
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Alleygater.

I am a long time dog owner and I love my home as well. My dog is an alpha dog that pisses a gajillion times during a walk as well.

It's rude and inconsiderate to have your pet do its stuff in other people's public areas. I take pride in maintaining all of my lawn.

Who wants to look at disgusting brown and yellow spots all summer? I don't!

Consult any animal behaviorist. Dogs can be trained to go in the street. Our streets are cleaned by the town.

Put yourself in the other person's shoes. Would you take a piss outside someone's front yard? Human or animal. It's disprespectful.

I take extra care to be considerate of my neighbor's space. If I choose to let my dog crap inside my yard, that's my business, but I wouldn't let him do that or piss on or near another's property. Only curbing.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 8040
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would you take a piss outside someone's front yard?

Bad analogy. If you were a landscaper, apparently you would.
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Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction

Post Number: 671
Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 3:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


On the bright side, this thread isn't dealing with Profeta, Huemer, or gate destruction.
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greenetree
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Post Number: 8041
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Posted on Wednesday, June 14, 2006 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe. Maybe not. One might say that they had a pissing match over the gate.....

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