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hch
Citizen
Username: Hch
Post Number: 254
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - 7:20 pm: | 
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What is the reason for ripping up perfectly good sidewalks on Valley? |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 643
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - 9:08 pm: |
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I saw that also. What's up with that? |
Ben
Citizen
Username: Ros
Post Number: 302
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - 9:20 pm: |
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Looks like they are being made handicapped (and stroller) accessible--don't know if that was the case before. |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3706
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 8:51 am: |
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A better question: who's idea was it to detour traffic around these construction areas by sending all the cars from heavily traveled Valley Street up in to normally quiet, narrow residential neighborhood streets that are not remotely equipped to handle such a huge volume of traffic (which includes buses and tractor trailers!), where children and dogs are used to very little traffic, and in particular in to a neighborhood that is always badly congested during the hours when people are dropping off and picking up at Tuscan, which means one car at time is barely able to pass through because cars are parked on both sides of the street?
Brilliant!
Think I might stop by and have a chat with the police chief this morning. |
Joe
Citizen
Username: Gonets
Post Number: 1230
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 9:09 am: |
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where children and dogs are used to very little traffic
It's about time someone started to take into consideration the impact traffic flow has on dogs. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3048
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
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Where should the traffic be redirected to? |
crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 590
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:57 am: |
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people's backyards. Or maybe we should have flying vehicles. |
Phenixrising
Citizen
Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1626
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3709
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:18 am: |
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Traffic should be redirected to roads that are set-up to handle--and used to--that volume of traffic: Roads like Tuscan, Prospect and Springfield. Or, God forbid, get a couple of flagmen to direct traffic in the one remaining lane. But if your perfectly comfortable with putting children at risk, then forget I said anything!
Another fabulous side effect of the poor planning on this one is having to walk out in to traffic on Valley Street to get around the giant, gaping holes on each corner. Even more fun: I had two kids in a stroller! |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14201
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:21 am: |
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I respect your right to rant, but stuff happens, and we make temporary accomodations. Not everything is the same every day.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1384
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Yeah, I agree with Tom on this one Meandtheboys, no reason to pull out the nukes just yet.... |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3049
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Not only am I perfectly comfortable putting children at risk, I encourage it. It helps them grow strong!
Now, to be serious, all I asked is where traffic should be redirected. I do not live in the area, and I don't go past it frequently. Things like this happen all the time across the country. Work is being done on roads and walkways, and traffic gets redirected to accommodate it. Hopefully it will be a short project, and you won't be inconvenienced for too long. |
Lucy Smith
Citizen
Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 144
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Another fabulous side effect of the poor planning on this one is having to walk out in to traffic on Valley Street to get around the giant, gaping holes on each corner. Even more fun: I had two kids in a stroller!" I thought for a minute she was talking about one of the giant gaping holes in SO but then I realized she wasn't!!!! Meand...I'm not laughing at you at all-just laughing at how ironic that people in Maplewood get furious over it happening and us here in SO are so used to it that the threads have long ago died! How sad! Hope you guys have better luck with getting your holes filled and sidewalks back soon-I've had to walk out into traffic on Vose for going on 6 months!
Good luck! |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3711
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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I wonder if you would all be so non-chalant if they were directing tractor trailers through your normally quiet neighborhood.
There are other options, it's just that the other options would have required more effort and thought on someone's part, and may even have required spending more money to hire a few more construction guys or a couple more cops.
But, you know what, you could be right. I could just be an unreasonable byotch. Guess I've learned once again not to air my personal concerns here on MOL.
Hopefully it will be short project and I won't be inconvenienced when one of the young kids who normally walks to school on a quiet street is run down by someone in such a big rush to get through this haphazard detour that they can't even be bothered to stop at an intersection of two streets (that, of course, is not marked with a stop sign)!
If it were just a matter of me being inconvienced, I could honestly care less. It's a matter of it being a very precarious and risky propostion. Thanks for your concern.
Now I think I'll head over to that other thread about how thoughtless, rude and dangerous NJ drivers are. |
Joe
Citizen
Username: Gonets
Post Number: 1232
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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I live near Valley myself. We occasionally have to deal with detours coming down our normally quiet street. The dogs don’t seem to mind. My cats appear a little curious about the change. The kids seem to enjoy the novelty of big trucks coming down the street. Since they don’t play in the street they’re unaffected. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14204
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 1:07 pm: |
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Don't get me wrong. Go ahead and complain, and we can all hope this doesn't last long. I'm sure it's a damned pain to put up with. I'm just not convinced there are alternatives. And cost should be a deciding factor in what the alternatives are.
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hch
Citizen
Username: Hch
Post Number: 256
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
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The sidewalks were already built for handicapped access, stroller access, bike access, etc.
It was interesting having to jump into rush hour traffic last night while jogging. At least there was a cop this morning to help me get out into traffic on the way to work. |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 273
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:06 pm: |
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Hey Meandtheboys:
Isn't this whole mess to accomodate people who need handicap access and PEOPLE WITH STROLLERS!!!!! |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3722
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:09 pm: |
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As hch said, the parts of the sidewalk they are tearing up that I use on a regular basis already did accomodate people with handicaps and strollers. |
Morrisa da Silva
Citizen
Username: Mod
Post Number: 453
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:11 pm: |
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Valley is a county road so the work must be county ordered. It looks like they are widening the curb cuts. I would assume this is to come into compliance with ADA rules. |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 275
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:13 pm: |
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What's an ADA rule... another dumb A.. |
Lucy Smith
Citizen
Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 145
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:17 pm: |
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Bajou-The ADA is the Americans with Disabilities Act. Hardly another dumb A and if you or anyone you know is disabled you wouldn't be so...i don't even have a word for what that comment said about you...
BTW...if i misread your post i apologize.... |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 277
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:39 pm: |
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Lucy i am not from this country and truly didn't know what it meant. You can officially call me a dumb a.. |
Lucy Smith
Citizen
Username: Lucy123
Post Number: 146
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 2:47 pm: |
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Bajou-I would never call you a dumb ***...completely understandable and please accept my apology for jumping down your virtual throat-it's a touchy subject for me.
The ADA was signed in 1990 and protects persons with disabilities from being discriminated against for employment (similar to discrimination clauses in all employment contracts for race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc.). It also requires handicap accessibility on public transportation and in all new construction (meaning elevators, ramps, wide enough doorways, accessible bathrooms, etc.). This also includes sidewalks, which even if the sidewalk on Valley in question appeared to be accessible, it may not have fit the strict guidelines set forth by the ADA-there are specific measurement requirements. |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 279
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 3:22 pm: |
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Dear Lucy:
Thanks for the info... I knew about the Americans with Disabilities Act but I just blanked on the ADA.. |
mwsilva
Citizen
Username: Mwsilva
Post Number: 497
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 5:44 pm: |
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Dear Meandtheboys,
Have them re-routed up my street. I do not live anywhere near the work, but what the heck, it is for the PUBLIC good and will not last long.
You seem to have a classic case of "Not in MY backyard!"
oh, and, That George Bush, he just can not do anything right. |
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen
Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 655
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 8:42 pm: |
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WOOF WOOF!!!
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Oldstone
Citizen
Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 702
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 2:03 pm: |
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i wonder what the metal plates at every single corner are all about. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 170
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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Where on Valley is the construction being done? |
Oldstone
Citizen
Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 703
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 4:16 pm: |
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every street from millburn avenue to tuscan |
hismom
Citizen
Username: Hismom
Post Number: 428
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:19 am: |
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Nope, all the way along Valley from Milburn Av up to the High School. |
HOMMELL
Citizen
Username: Hommell
Post Number: 172
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 11:39 am: |
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The News-Record said it will last 10 weeks. |
Oldstone
Citizen
Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 704
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:43 pm: |
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so no experts on here know what the metal plates are? |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3093
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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They are there to cover holes in the ground. Probably made of steel, possibly iron.
Oh, you mean why the plates are there?
Did the News Record say what the construction is for? |
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