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SO Ref
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Need a tissue?
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Nohero
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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You know what, screw it. I'll just mind my own business knowing fully aware that my maplewoodians only care about this issue in theory. In reality they are either too uninterested or timid to do anything about it.


Okay, how did you reach that conclusion, based on the responses to your original post?
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Pippi
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nohero - I was just going to ask the same question

SLK - you suddeny got very defensive. You asked for advice and the overwhelming advice was to investigate further and not jump to conclusions. It is a very hot topic, but you don't have enough information. If you knew for certain what the story was, your fellow Maplewoodians would support you if all clear, substantive evidence pointed to an illegal student

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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

why even pose the question here? either you've got enough reason to suspect this kid is an illegal student, and you should call the school district, or you don't, in which case you myob. why does it matter what other people think? I wouldn't poll the people on this board about such matters. only you know what you saw, we don't.

sheesh.
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lah
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She was exiting the house at 6:30 AM for Seth Boyden? That seems a tad early for elementary school. If she's being dropped off at that hour, my suspicion would be that her parent(s) need to get to work early.
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK:

I never said you were being nosy. The kinds of observations you have reported are those of someone going about their business on a weekday morning. What I said was that you don't have enough information to determine whether the child is a student in our school district, let alone an illegal one.

If it were me, and I truly suspected the student was illegal, I would call the district, assuming that they would investigate the matter without causing embarassment to either the child or the child's family. This seemed to me to be a less abraisive way of handling things than following the advice of others which was to investigate the matter yourself.

I also advised that MOL is not the best forum to be discussing this specific situation, especially since any of us reading this thread who know your identity and where you live might easily deduce who the child is from the information you have posted.

I am not questioning the appropriateness of your asking for our help in deciding what to do in this situation, merely stating it would have been far better to present your question in more general terms.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan,

You are right and I apologize. I shouldn't have gotten so defensive. I just get frustrated because everytime I try to good for this town, try to correct those things that allegedly really bother my neighbors, I get my chops busted for it.

I confront a litterer I am a sociopath. I suspect someone is illegaly part of our school system I am told to MYOB.

I am all about MYOB but sometimes you can't or it will bite you in the .

Peace...

-SLK
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Nohero
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess my line is - "So what's the answer to my question?"
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C Bataille
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am one who occasionally drops my kid off at a friend's house at 7:15 in the a.m. On the days this is necessary she has breakfast with them and then walks to SB with her friend and the neighbors. We are extremely grateful to have friends who allow us to do that. I have to be well on my way before the before-school care opens (7:30) and my spouse occasionally has to travel overnight or be in South Jersey by 7 or 8. If both of us had early schedules we would do it on a regular basis.

Please do not ask/approach the child directly about her circumstances, SLK. Children that age should not be talking to strangers about where they live, who their parents are, etc. Approach the neighbors and/or the school district if you are truly concerned.
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Wendy
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't MYOB. Report it to the district. Stop posting about it. The rule of three.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nohero-

I apologized...lets move on... :-)

-SLK
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Nohero
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, if that means that you included our other points in your apology - Deal!
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Sunday, May 21, 2006 - 8:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Deal! :-)
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Bob K
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Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since you don't know for sure I would tend not to report the child. Also, to beg the issue by getting into the nitty-gritty, I doubt the school district could even trace her by the address only and she may or may not share the name of the people living across the street.

As I have admitted previously, it is one thing to rant about non-resident students and another thing to turn them in, especially without iron clad evidence.
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Wendy
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Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 9:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob K, I respectfully disagree. It is not up to the concerned citizen to come up with ironclad evidence. If you are suspicious based on common sense observations then the district wants you to report this and will follow up on all leads. I wish more people would do this. As I said before, don't confront, don't post, just report. If it's a matter of a kid being dropped off early then that will be determined. If it's something else, that will be determined too.
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Rastro
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Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's not like the school district is going to throw the child out of school without investigating. Let them do the heavy lifting - that's part of their job. You have a concern, report it and move on.
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Joan
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 7:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK:

I would be the last person to recommend the MYOB approach to dealing with problems we face in this town but I feel there is a right way and a wrong way of approaching such problems.

The first is to gather sufficient facts to know what the problem is that needs addressing. In the case you cited at the beginning of the thread, there could be an illegal student problem or there could be a problem with parents having to leave for work long before the start of the school day. The mechanism for dealing with an illegal student is to report the child to the district and let them handle it but the other problem is much more difficult to address.

Parents who have to leave for work before school starts are fortunate if they have a friend they can leave the children with before school. What about the parents in these circumstances who are new to the district or whose children haven't formed close relationships with children who have at least one parent who is either SAH or leaves for work after the start of the school day? Should the local PTAs and Home and School Associations be looking into developiong a resource list of vetted volunteers who will take such children in before school? Do we need a before school school program as well as an after school program and if so, how should it be funded?

This is an issue that needs to be addressed and should you or anyone else wish to tackle it, such involvement could lead to a real improvement in the lives of many others in our community.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scrotus would have told the authorities where Anne Frank was hiding.
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Rastro
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL, you're way past insanely obsessed, and approaching stalker status.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL,

That has got to be the most stupidest thing you have ever posted on MOL. Take Rastro's last post to heart, you are really bizzare.

I told alot of the Mapleowoodian/SO male population where your kinky wife lives but they knew that already.

Whine to Jaime now, go on....

-SLK

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Alleygater
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Slick, RL can be stalkerish (and obnoxious to you), but cmon dude, you don't need to bring his wife into the matter.
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that WAS pretty tacky, not to mention childish.
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah - but it was kind of funny. I confess that I chuckled when I read it.
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Oldstone
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes, the anne frank comment maybe....but not the wife comment.
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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 1:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh. Right. I should have clarified that. Anne, yes. Wife, no.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know what, I wrote an apology to Scrod but retracted it. He doesn't deserve one.
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Alleygater
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RL, that last post was about as useless as SLicKs post to you in the politics section announcing how he was ignoring your last post. C'mon guys the childish antics (and coming from me this is saying something, I think) needs to get reeled in at least a little bit.
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Gregor Samsa
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FWIW, RL himself was the one who introduced the notion of his kinky wife to MOL...Any one of you people with all the free time on your hands can go back through all the posts and look it up. Personally I'm offended when anyone is called a Nazi, which is clearly the case here. I'll happily be the one to complain to the moderators here...Any type of Nazi references should be automatic suspensions, especially when they come from such serial offenders such as RL.
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Gregor Samsa
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, let me have it for using the word "such" 2x in the last sentence... know you want to.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 2:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two thoughts:

1. Man, you mention something about a woman being into stuff even without any details, information, pictures, or anything and the uber-repressed right-leaning nutcases not only don't forget it but bring it up repeatedly. Talk about desperate! You don't have to look it up, I mentioned something (don't think I used the word kinky but let the neo-nuts have their fantasies cause evidently its all they got).

B. No one was called a Nazi. Sorry to disappoint you.
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Alleygater
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Grrrrrr: I REALLY hate when people gotta be complainy whiners to the Admins. They got better things to do with their time then police the boards looking for problems. It always strikes me as "tattle-taling". Words are words. We are adults and know how to ignore things. Not to mention these two individuals are constantly battling eachother and they SPECIFICALLY know how to ignore stupid insults.

I agree with RL that no one was called a Nazi. I was just accused WRONGLY by Case of calling Bajou a Nazi in another thread. He was just trying to spark a little disagreement between us (stupid instigator that he is), which didn't work. But I would have been annoyed and disappointed if I was "reported" to Dave and Jaime (SLicK: I loved Jaime by the way, whether it was a typo or not). Not because I am scared, but because it's dumb and immature. I would much rather we acted a bit more like adults and policed ourselves (as a community) as much as possible.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 3:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree. they should police themselves. how about you guys take it outside and slap each other silly?

just don't come back here and post about it
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The Notorious S.L.K.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 8:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone-

I admit the kinky wife comment was a low blow and I retract it. But Gregor is correct in stating that RL introduced the notion a while back on MOL.

Regardless, no matter how RL is rude and offensive towards me (which you tend to forget or overlook), I will apologize to him.

RL, I apologize.

Peace...

-SLK

ps...do you know the best way to reheat pork chops? I am a hungry boy....
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Tuesday, May 23, 2006 - 9:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

either wrap them in foil and place on them your car's engine and let it idle for 15 min, or put one under each of your arms for 30 minutes. depends how much time you've got.

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