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     Bob K Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 11614 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think Fact is way off base here. While people do report crimes that don't happen (remember the livery driver who was "carjacked" on SA not so long ago) 6 is well known to quite a fewer posters here in the real world, including LydiaL who is pretty level headed. Heck, this isn't the Duke Lacrosse case !  | ||
| mjh Supporter Username: Mjh Post Number: 543 Registered: 5-2001 |
Rastro, you're feeding a troll. He's got nothing to do and is seeking attention and has found MOL fills both needs a few hours of the day. If you really feel sorry for him, continue feeding. If not, stop and maybe he'll go away. | ||
| Lydia Supporter Username: Lydial Post Number: 1884 Registered: 5-2001 |
Facts has to live within his/her own peevish mean world. I'm actually kicking myself that I got pulled into his/her bad craziness. On a good note, spoke with 6 via e-mail this morning and she's feeling optimistic and has been really grateful to the support that most of you gave her. Myles (the owner of Motion) has been fantastic and concerned, working with the security guard, the Millburn police and the owners of the building and communicating with 6 daily on what's being done. Better yet - this scary episode inspired 6 to arrange a self-defense group for 5-6 people - it will combine theory and some work with a dummy taught by her daughter's Karate teacher. It didn't take long for 6 to turn this around into something positive. I'm really proud of her, and if it makes all of us think a little more defensively when we're vulnerable, that's a good thing. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro  Post Number: 3212 Registered: 5-2004  |
mjh, I'm just trying to help him get his post count up. I think he's surpassed Tom R in terms of daily postings (almost a hundred posts a week since joining MOL). I don't feel sorry for him, but I do find him amusing. He's the Straw of the non-political soapbox, though with less cogent statements. He just needs a catch phrase, like "boring" or "libs are morons". | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3213 Registered: 5-2004 |
Lydia, sounds great. I'm very glad she's finding hte positive in this. It's a rare person that can do that, particularly so quickyly after this kind of trauma. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 1587 Registered: 3-2002 |
Actually, I think that any poster who accuses another poster (however obliquely) of making a false crime report may need some time off from the boards. If you wouldn't accuse her of false reports to her face, then don't do it here. You may live in Millburn and want to believe that this can't happen there, but that doesn't justify veiled attacks on a fellow poster who has been the victim of an ugly and frightening crime. You should be ashamed. Shame on you. Hang in there 6yearsrez! | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 973 Registered: 7-2005  |
Would you all please learn the real definition of what a troll is? Try going to GameFAQs.com and looking up Trolling. | ||
| greenetree Supporter Username: Greenetree Post Number: 7804 Registered: 5-2001  |
It's a very pretty day, Sunshine. Go out and play. | ||
| buzzsaw Citizen Username: Buzzsaw Post Number: 4793 Registered: 5-2001  |
Prince Andrew stayed at Brunn with Bilibin, a Russian acquaintance of his in the diplomatic service. "Ah, my dear prince! I could not have a more welcome visitor," said Bilibin as he came out to meet Prince Andrew. "Franz, put the prince's things in my bedroom," said he to the servant who was ushering Bolkonski in. "So you're a messenger of victory, eh? Splendid! And I am sitting here ill, as you see." After washing and dressing, Prince Andrew came into the diplomat's luxurious study and sat down to the dinner prepared for him. Bilibin settled down comfortably beside the fire. After his journey and the campaign during which he had been deprived of all the comforts of cleanliness and all the refinements of life, Prince Andrew felt a pleasant sense of repose among luxurious surroundings such as he had been accustomed to from childhood. Besides it was pleasant, after his reception by the Austrians, to speak if not in Russian (for they were speaking French) at least with a Russian who would, he supposed, share the general Russian antipathy to the Austrians which was then particularly strong. Bilibin was a man of thirty-five, a bachelor, and of the same circle as Prince Andrew. They had known each other previously in Petersburg, but had become more intimate when Prince Andrew was in Vienna with Kutuzov. Just as Prince Andrew was a young man who gave promise of rising high in the military profession, so to an even greater extent Bilibin gave promise of rising in his diplomatic career. He still a young man but no longer a young diplomat, as he had entered the service at the age of sixteen, had been in Paris and Copenhagen, and now held a rather important post in Vienna. Both the foreign minister and our ambassador in Vienna knew him and valued him. He was not one of those many diplomats who are esteemed because they have certain negative qualities, avoid doing certain things, and speak French. He was one of those, who, liking work, knew how to do it, and despite his indolence would sometimes spend a whole night at his writing table. He worked well whatever the import of his work. It was not the question "What for?" but the question "How?" that interested him. What the diplomatic matter might be he did not care, but it gave him great pleasure to prepare a circular, memorandum, or report, skillfully, pointedly, and elegantly. Bilibin's services were valued not only for what he wrote, but also for his skill in dealing and conversing with those in the highest spheres. Bilibin liked conversation as he liked work, only when it could be made elegantly witty. In society he always awaited an opportunity to say something striking and took part in a conversation only when that was possible. His conversation was always sprinkled with wittily original, finished phrases of general interest. These sayings were prepared in the inner laboratory of his mind in a portable form as if intentionally, so that insignificant society people might carry them from drawing room to drawing room. And, in fact, Bilibin's witticisms were hawked about in the Viennese drawing rooms and often had an influence on matters considered important. His thin, worn, sallow face was covered with deep wrinkles, which always looked as clean and well washed as the tips of one's fingers after a Russian bath. The movement of these wrinkles formed the principal play of expression on his face. Now his forehead would pucker into deep folds and his eyebrows were lifted, then his eyebrows would descend and deep wrinkles would crease his cheeks. His small, deep-set eyes always twinkled and looked out straight. "Well, now tell me about your exploits," said he. Bolkonski, very modestly without once mentioning himself, described the engagement and his reception by the Minister of War. "They received me and my news as one receives a dog in a game of skittles," said he in conclusion. Bilibin smiled and the wrinkles on his face disappeared. "Cependant, mon cher," he remarked, examining his nails from a distance and puckering the skin above his left eye, "malgre la haute estime que je professe pour the Orthodox Russian army, j'avoue que votre victoire n'est pas des plus victorieuses."* * "But my dear fellow, with all my respect for the Orthodox Russian army, I must say that your victory was not particularly victorious." He went on talking in this way in French, uttering only those words in Russian on which he wished to put a contemptuous emphasis. "Come now! You with all your forces fall on the unfortunate Mortier and his one division, and even then Mortier slips through your fingers! Where's the victory?" "But seriously," said Prince Andrew, "we can at any rate say without boasting that it was a little better than at Ulm..." "Why didn't you capture one, just one, marshal for us?" "Because not everything happens as one expects or with the smoothness of a parade. We had expected, as I told you, to get at their rear by seven in the morning but had not reached it by five in the afternoon." "And why didn't you do it at seven in the morning? You ought to have been there at seven in the morning," returned Bilibin with a smile. "You ought to have been there at seven in the morning." "Why did you not succeed in impressing on Bonaparte by diplomatic methods that he had better leave Genoa alone?" retorted Prince Andrew in the same tone. "I know," interrupted Bilibin, "you're thinking it's very easy to take marshals, sitting on a sofa by the fire! That is true, but still why didn't you capture him? So don't be surprised if not only the Minister of War but also his Most August Majesty the Emperor and King Francis is not much delighted by your victory. Even I, a poor secretary of the Russian Embassy, do not feel any need in token of my joy to give my Franz a thaler, or let him go with his Liebchen to the Prater... True, we have no Prater here..." He looked straight at Prince Andrew and suddenly unwrinkled his forehead. "It is now my turn to ask you 'why?' mon cher," said Bolkonski. "I confess I do not understand: perhaps there are diplomatic subtleties here beyond my feeble intelligence, but I can't make it out. Mack loses a whole army, the Archduke Ferdinand and the Archduke Karl give no signs of life and make blunder after blunder. Kutuzov alone at last gains a real victory, destroying the spell of the invincibility of the French, and the Minister of War does not even care to hear the details." "That's just it, my dear fellow. You see it's hurrah for the Tsar, for Russia, for the Orthodox Greek faith! All that is beautiful, but what do we, I mean the Austrian court, care for your victories? Bring us nice news of a victory by the Archduke Karl or Ferdinand (one archduke's as good as another, as you know) and even if it is only over a fire brigade of Bonaparte's, that will be another story and we'll fire off some cannon! But this sort of thing seems done on purpose to vex us. The Archduke Karl does nothing, the Archduke Ferdinand disgraces himself. You abandon Vienna, give up its defense- as much as to say: 'Heaven is with us, but heaven help you and your capital!' The one general whom we all loved, Schmidt, you expose to a bullet, and then you congratulate us on the victory! Admit that more irritating news than yours could not have been conceived. It's as if it had been done on purpose, on purpose. Besides, suppose you did gain a brilliant victory, if even the Archduke Karl gained a victory, what effect would that have on the general course of events? It's too late now when Vienna is occupied by the French army!" "What? Occupied? Vienna occupied?" "Not only occupied, but Bonaparte is at Schonbrunn, and the count, our dear Count Vrbna, goes to him for orders." After the fatigues and impressions of the journey, his reception, and especially after having dined, Bolkonski felt that he could not take in the full significance of the words he heard. "Count Lichtenfels was here this morning," Bilibin continued, "and showed me a letter in which the parade of the French in Vienna was fully described: Prince Murat et tout le tremblement... You see that your victory is not a matter for great rejoicing and that you can't be received as a savior." "Really I don't care about that, I don't care at all," said Prince Andrew, beginning to understand that his news of the battle before Krems was really of small importance in view of such events as the fall of Austria's capital. "How is it Vienna was taken? What of the bridge and its celebrated bridgehead and Prince Auersperg? We heard reports that Prince Auersperg was defending Vienna?" he said. "Prince Auersperg is on this, on our side of the river, and is defending us- doing it very badly, I think, but still he is defending us. But Vienna is on the other side. No, the bridge has not yet been taken and I hope it will not be, for it is mined and orders have been given to blow it up. Otherwise we should long ago have been in the mountains of Bohemia, and you and your army would have spent a bad quarter of an hour between two fires." "But still this does not mean that the campaign is over," said Prince Andrew. "Well, I think it is. The bigwigs here think so too, but they daren't say so. It will be as I said at the beginning of the campaign, it won't be your skirmishing at Durrenstein, or gunpowder at all, that will decide the matter, but those who devised it," said Bilibin quoting one of his own mots, releasing the wrinkles on his forehead, and pausing. "The only question is what will come of the meeting between the Emperor Alexander and the King of Prussia in Berlin? If Prussia joins the Allies, Austria's hand will be forced and there will be war. If not it is merely a question of settling where the preliminaries of the new Campo Formio are to be drawn up." "What an extraordinary genius!" Prince Andrew suddenly exclaimed, clenching his small hand and striking the table with it, "and what luck the man has!" "Buonaparte?" said Bilibin inquiringly, puckering up his forehead to indicate that he was about to say something witty. "Buonaparte?" he repeated, accentuating the u: "I think, however, now that he lays down laws for Austria at Schonbrunn, il faut lui faire grace de l'u!* I shall certainly adopt an innovation and call him simply Bonaparte!" *"We must let him off the u!" "But joking apart," said Prince Andrew, "do you really think the campaign is over?" "This is what I think. Austria has been made a fool of, and she is not used to it. She will retaliate. And she has been fooled in the first place because her provinces have been pillaged- they say the Holy Russian army loots terribly- her army is destroyed, her capital taken, and all this for the beaux yeux* of His Sardinian Majesty. And therefore- this is between ourselves- I instinctively feel that we are being deceived, my instinct tells me of negotiations with France and projects for peace, a secret peace concluded separately." * Fine eyes. "Impossible!" cried Prince Andrew. "That would be too base." "If we live we shall see," replied Bilibin, his face again becoming smooth as a sign that the conversation was at an end. When Prince Andrew reached the room prepared for him and lay down in a clean shirt on the feather bed with its warmed and fragrant pillows, he felt that the battle of which he had brought tidings was far, far away from him. The alliance with Prussia, Austria's treachery, Bonaparte's new triumph, tomorrow's levee and parade, and the audience with the Emperor Francis occupied his thoughts. He closed his eyes, and immediately a sound of cannonading, of musketry and the rattling of carriage wheels seemed to fill his ears, and now again drawn out in a thin line the musketeers were descending the hill, the French were firing, and he felt his heart palpitating as he rode forward beside Schmidt with the bullets merrily whistling all around, and he experienced tenfold the joy of living, as he had not done since childhood. He woke up... "Yes, that all happened!" he said, and, smiling happily to himself like a child, he fell into a deep, youthful slumber. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3215 Registered: 5-2004 |
GameFAQs.com? Are you kidding? Would that be a troll on PSP? XBox 360? Perhaps you need to educate yourself on what the term means on the Internet, particularly in newsgroups/message boards. The term "troll" has been around much longer than some game site. A few better definitions... http://www.binaries.net/articles/newsgroup_trolls.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trolls http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html I do prefer the term flamebait, however. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 1917 Registered: 7-2004  |
Rastro: Your obsession with Glock is bordering on stalkerish. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3216 Registered: 5-2004 |
Actually, I'd say Case is more obsessed with Glock than me. And let's not even talk about both our obsessions with Ligeti! Actually, my obsession is with people who post as if they know everything, and refuse to admit when they are wrong. And RL, I'm not commenting on Glock's personal life, nor am I bringing things he said on any thread into every post (shouldn't you have mentioned SLK in your last post?). This thread has strayed so far from it's initial purpose, perhaps it should be shut down. Buzzsaw has the right idea. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 1918 Registered: 7-2004 |
"my obsession is with people who post as if they know everything, and refuse to admit when they are wrong." Ah, self-obsessed. Got it. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3217 Registered: 5-2004 |
I do know everything, but I freely admit when I post something that is wrong, which is often. Heck, it's probably on a daily basis.  | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3218 Registered: 5-2004 |
Hey, I think SLK is posting somewhere. Shouldn't you go find him? | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 1919 Registered: 7-2004 |
Feeling a little defensive, eh? It's understandable, Pot. Signed, Kettle | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3219 Registered: 5-2004 |
Defensive? Where do you get defensive from my posts? Nevemind. I'm done. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 974 Registered: 7-2005 |
"Perhaps you need to educate yourself on what the term means on the Internet, particularly in newsgroups/message boards." So gamers don't know anything about message boards and/or the internet? And I need to edcuate myself? And while the term troll has admittedly been around longer than GameFAQS (Fall of 1999), gamers shape a large portion of what becomes "net culture" 73H 1337 5H411 1NH3R17 73H 34R7H!!!shift11!! | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 1920 Registered: 7-2004 |
Yah, Okaaaaaay, whatever. But thanks for posting that you're done, instead of just being done. Done. | ||
| Rastro Citizen Username: Rastro Post Number: 3220 Registered: 5-2004 |
oooh.. he's 31337! Glock, my point was that you're referenceing a game site, when this is a message board. We all know the "real" definition of a troll. I don't see what your reference has to do with what mjh said. | ||
| Ligeti Man Meat Citizen Username: Ligeti Post Number: 668 Registered: 7-2002  |
Glock: finish your homework and clean up your room. Then take the garbage out. And I don't mean maybe. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 975 Registered: 7-2005 |
I think it's funny how you all think I'm a kid and/or still in school. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 552 Registered: 4-2006 |
It seems to me that a problem with some people who post on MOL is that unless you explain in the most simple of terms and/or endlessly what you are saying, they read what they want into it, especially if they have pre-existing "disdain" towards you. It's more fun for them that way to post their snide comments, ignoring your content or attempting to clarify it. mem- Since you are the only poster to have the decency to actually ask, I am basically astonished that if a carjacking attempt occured in the lot that I can find employees there didn't know about it and at what appears to be the level of police response. Please note I said "appears to be". In another town in which I lived at one point there was a similiarly reported event. The police kept marked cars going through the area about every other hour for about a week or so. So, I was wondering if there is actually more to the story. For example, did they catch anyone or get some information about the actor? People have told me in M/SO for example that they don't find a lot of incidents reported in the papersof which they have knowledge. Urban legend? Generally I post when multi-tasking, and I try to make my posts, such as they are, generally short and humorous. Some seem to have enjoyed the threads I have posted. I guess I should expect to be attacked here given the fact that you have a very small group of posters from among the many who, IMHO, only want to strut their intellectual pretensions and doctrinaire politics. Because they take themselves so seriously they don't like anyone that doesn't bring a similiar gravity to the threads and their very important opinions. I think you need humor in this life and not to take yourself too seriously, but that's just me. In a way I feel sorry for them, but hey, you could never have a dialogue with them anyway. They are always right. Right? | ||
| mjh Supporter Username: Mjh Post Number: 548 Registered: 5-2001 |
"mjh, I'm just trying to help him get his post count up. I think he's surpassed Tom R in terms of daily postings (almost a hundred posts a week since joining MOL). " Rastro: I hear you, but it forces me to scroll through so many posts! It's a drag, so to speak. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 976 Registered: 7-2005 |
Hahaha. So once again..we are insulting the Glockster and assuming that he hasno life because he posts on MOL? Glass houses...glass houses... Did you notice I only started posting at 1:30ish. Because I do things during the day. And if I should be taking out the trash. You should all be at work. WORKING. | ||
| The Notorious S.L.K. Citizen Username: Scrotisloknows Post Number: 1485 Registered: 10-2005 |
FvF said: "It seems to me that a problem with some people who post on MOL is that unless you explain in the most simple of terms and/or endlessly what you are saying, they read what they want into it, especially if they have pre-existing "disdain" towards you. It's more fun for them that way to post their snide comments, ignoring your content or attempting to clarify it." Lord have mercy, hallejuiah is he ever so right!!!!  FvF-Now you know how I feel...most MOLers don't like having their beliefs tested thats for sure.... | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1651 Registered: 2-2005 |
Nice to see that Glock isn't going to ignore my previous posts. Good boy, Glock! Good boy! | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 978 Registered: 7-2005 |
Once again. You prove your weakness by insulting me instead of attacking my beliefs. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 554 Registered: 4-2006 |
As a follow up to my earlier posts I spoke with an employee of a company that is in the area who CONFIRMED the carjacking story today. This is the first one since the incident apparently happened on friday that knew about it and discussed it. Frankly, this really disturbs me on two counts and I am calling some responsible people about this. The public and employees should have been made aware of this event. Inexcusable. | ||
| susan1014 Supporter Username: Susan1014 Post Number: 1590 Registered: 3-2002 |
Yes, and you should have known better than to imply that a member of our online community might be making false police reports. Thoughtless. Can you imagine how a posting like that would have read if you were the victim? Thanks for following up, now that you've finally found the proof that you needed. | ||
| eliz Supporter Username: Eliz Post Number: 1477 Registered: 5-2001 |
Exactly Susan. 6yearrez and Lydia both confirmed the story and both are long time members of this board. FvF has been here about 5 minutes - all of them miserable. Why don't you take your energy and all your excess time and start your own board in Millburn? | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 979 Registered: 7-2005 |
If I were the victim I wouldn't care. It is good for people to be suspicious. | ||
| Factvsfiction Citizen Username: Factvsfiction Post Number: 556 Registered: 4-2006 |
susan1014- Your the perfect example of what I talked about in my earlier post.You couldn't figure out what I was posting in my Essex County thread, either. When did I say anyone filed a false police report? You infer and assume. Can you breakdown the last word? eliz- Your a lovely cheerleader for non-reading and obtuseness as well. Thinking is required in reading a post. Ask me if you believe I am claiming something. The fact that you have been here a long time is wonderful, but it means what in terms of my post? My comments have to agree with your opinions and thoughts because you have some sort of seniority? | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 981 Registered: 7-2005 |
I guess the new blood has been rejected. Typical. | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1652 Registered: 2-2005 |
Glock, Weren't you paying attention? I attacked your beliefs time and time again - like a good dog, you decided to 'heel' instead of barking about it. I can re-post the passages if you like. | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1653 Registered: 2-2005 |
Oh... nice to see that Fact is getting all the love and respect he deserves! Perhaps he should stick to American Idol commentary in the future. | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 982 Registered: 7-2005 |
I find your insults amusing. | ||
| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1655 Registered: 2-2005 |
Are you sure it's not a white plot? I thought that was your typical excuse.... | ||
| Glock 17 Citizen Username: Glock17 Post Number: 983 Registered: 7-2005 |
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| Case Citizen Username: Case Post Number: 1656 Registered: 2-2005 |
Good boy, Glock! Excellent use of copying and pasting - well done. I'm not sure who the noob is (oh, pardon me: n00b. I know the kids like it spelled that way), but I'm proud of you for figuring out how to post a photo. The future of our country is obviously in good hands. I predicted that you weren't going to own up to your childish and rather ignorant postings... but who could have guessed you'd post a picture? That was GENIUS! Hey, as I said in MY previous post (below), I understand if you need to avoid discussing your posts - frankly, after re-reading them... I don't blame you a bit. Hey, how's the paperwork on your CCW coming? =========================================================================== You realize that your posts are still visible, right? Sometimes people forget that this is different than a verbal discussion - here, when you say "I never said that" we can all just scroll up! We don't know you, that's true, so we have to go by your posts here. Let's start when I asked you what YOUR solution was... since you were obviously not blaming whites for everything (that was sarcasm too, by the way!) OK... well, so your solution is as follows: A solution? Stop calling it a black problem. And don't tel me that I call it a white problem, because I don't. It's an American problem. Sounds good to me - if we stop calling it a black problem and start calling it an American problem, what exactly does that solve? I mean, I'm glad that we got the labelling squared away but WHERE IS YOUR SOLUTION? Incidentally, regarding your comment that you "don't call it a white problem": White people created this country. White people brought blacks to the country. White people did nothing but mistreat and disenfranchise blacks in this country throughout most of this country's history. You figure it out. Perhaps I 'figured it out' incorrectly - this post seems to imply (rather strongly!) that you ARE in fact laying the blame at the feet of the white man. Incidentally, I say 'white man' but you know, there could be women involved too. Behind every successful white devil is a good woman, right? Awwww... there's that old white man again, causing problems. However, I notice that I haven't seen your solution yet, Glock. You claim that you don't spend your time in mindless rants against white people (past postings notwithstanding, apparently)... but again - what's your solution? And incidentally - if you want to avoid the whole issue that's fine... you screwed up, you got called on it, and we can move on. But don't waffle around telling people how you never blame other people for your problems - that "white man" post of yours was so whiny you sounded like a 14 year old girl from Long Island for a minute. |
