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marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 1434
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 6:18 pm: | 
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Comments? Concerns? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14465
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 6:28 pm: |
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I'll type it to save you the trouble, Marie.
Police believe gang member is alleged gunman
I hope they have the right guy, and I hope they prosecute, convict, and sentence him appropriately.
I hope you feel the same way.
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Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 843
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |
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The headline of the article aside, the content of the article indicates that the shooter and victim may be / have been members of the Bloods street gang. This is merely descriptive of the parties involved. Considering that the article indicates that police are continuing to investigate the motive behind the shooting, there is nothing more to infer. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14467
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 7:23 pm: |
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Except that Marie has been telling us that we should be concerned about gang presences here. I guess she wants to say she told us so. And she may have earned that right.
Marie, if I have gathered your motive correctly, why be so coy?
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chickadee
Citizen
Username: Chickadee
Post Number: 69
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 7:30 pm: |
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This is the first time, since moving to this community that I did not want my children to see the front page of the News Record. Gang member is alleged gunman, couple found guilty of arson, teens caught carjacking, candidates debated crime, and in the middle of all of that is a little girl having her face painted. This is just an observation, but today's cover really was a downer. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1004
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 7:39 pm: |
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It was a random act between two gang members. The gang presence in town is irrelevant as the shooting could've occured any number of places. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14470
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 8:04 pm: |
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Yeah, but better for us for it to happen somewhere else than here.
And of course, it would be even better if it didn't happen at all, but these things sometimes snowball, which is why we wish it didn't happen at all. And it affects all of us, not just the victim.
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MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3820
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |
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For those of us who don't know, what shooting is this? The one in S.O. a week or so ago? |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1493
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 8:52 pm: |
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considering we are a stonethrow away from Irvington/Newark, we should be relieved this crap doesn't happen more often...
Except for the potential innocent victim being caught up in this big ego trip otherwise known as "gangs, "gang members shooting gang members? where is the problem?...I say we round them up and throw them in a ring...they should all be dead by morning...problem solved....
-SLK |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1557
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 3:34 am: |
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"It was a random act between two gang members. The gang presence in town is irrelevant as the shooting could've occured any number of places."
Actually the fact that there is a gang presence in town is not irrelevant. The fact that two rival gang members could run into each other in town with guns blazing is a problem. If they were both wearing the same color pants at the time of the shooting; that would be irrelevant.
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thegoodsgt
Citizen
Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 988
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 7:41 am: |
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Well, as others have pointed out, we simply have to accept the fact that these things can happen around here. That said, we would all be wise to:
- Don't grow too attached to your car or your belongings.
- Have your will up to date.
- Make sure you have life insurance.
- Make sure your health insurance is current, and know where the hospitals are.
- Make arrangements to have someone care for your children should something happen to you.
- Put emergency contact information in your wallet/purse. (Better yet, put it in your pocket in case your wallet/purse is stolen.)
Other suggestions? |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3825
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:28 am: |
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Yeah, don't forget to stock up on the canned goods for the fallout shelter!
Jeez. |
Case
Citizen
Username: Case
Post Number: 1685
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:49 am: |
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Actually, all that is good advice ANYWAY - but in this context, it does have a touch of "Oh My God, The President Has Declared Threat Level Orangey-Red" to it. (Incidentally, what IS the threat level these days? Burnt Umber?)
And don't make fun of canned goods in the basement. It's never a bad idea to have a week or two's supply of food in the house - and with canned goods, you can eat the food (and replace it) as part of the normal cycle of your life.
The M60 machine gun and the landmines are another story, of course.
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The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1501
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:51 am: |
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I am withyouMeandtheboys, everyone relax. Crime is possible anywhere, or is a carjacking in Millburn no longer a big deal?
"believe" is a key word in the headline. It neither confirms or deny anything. Didn't the shooting take place closer to the Newark side of SO (I may be wrong)? Another point to consider.
The police aren't stupid. They are already on it and probably have been even before this shooting.
And like I said before, since we live next to towns that have gangs, can we celebrate the fact that this doesn't happen more often where we live and not hide in the cellar?
-SLK |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3826
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 8:57 am: |
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And I agree with you SLK, I think MPD does an incredible job of "patrolling our borders" so to speak. It really could be a lot worse.
And I'm sure SOPD does a great job too. |
johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 1619
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:20 am: |
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Attention all Maplewood Citizens:
Please refer to the Maplewood/South Orange Map. As you can see, Irvington and Newark border on Maplewood and South Orange. Please be aware of this fact because realtors do not like to divulge this information.
There is major gang activity in Newark and Irvington. Some of this is bound to spill over into our bucolic little towns. If this is a surprise to you then you didn't do your homework when you moved here. |
The Notorious S.L.K.
Citizen
Username: Scrotisloknows
Post Number: 1503
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:29 am: |
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Right Meandtheboys-
I mean what other crime does SOMA PDs have to worry about? I am confident gang activities on the border is no. 1 on the list.
Besides, living in Brooklyn for so long, I am not convinced every gangsta looking dude is in fact a gangster. I have come across a lot of wannabees thugs in my day.
What, no one likes my "dump them into an arena" idea? Until these bordering towns learn to "police their own",I don't care if they build a mile high fence on the border either.
-SLK
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johnny
Citizen
Username: Johnny
Post Number: 1620
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:34 am: |
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Also, there is nothing random about a shooting between rival gang members. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 2131
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:47 am: |
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I don't recall anyone disputing that our towns are perilously close to cities with major crime problems, especially gang crime. I also don't recall anyone saying that we in our towns don't need to be vigilant, nor do I recall anyone saying that our TC and police force don't need to be concerned with crime.
What I do recall is some of us disputing whether or not these incidents mean we should take extreme measures like installing metal detectors in CHS, or stationing security guards in St. James's Gate and Here's 2 The Arts after midnight.
This shooting just reinforces the need for our police departments to be more visible in areas that show evidence of tagging or other gang presence. Although in this case, the shooter was brazen enough to commit his crime about a 1/4 mile from police headquarters, so even that won't prevent every possible violent act. |
MeAndTheBoys
Citizen
Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 3833
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 9:57 am: |
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SLK, yes, I do you like your dump them in an arena idea. Better yet, lets lock them all in giant warehoue with no windows and don't unlock the doors until we're sure they're all done killing each other. If they're determined to do it, a controlled environment is certainly better than letting them loose on the street. And with them all dead we won't have to worry about paying their room and board for the rest of their lives!
And that way we can be sure no innocent bystanders will be injured or killed during the melee.
(And, yes, in case anyone was wondering, I'm not entirely serious about the above...........only just a little!) |
breal
Citizen
Username: Breal
Post Number: 903
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |
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The suspected shooter was described as someone who was out on bail . . . for a bail-jumping violation. I hope I have that wrong. I really hope so. What do you have to do to get some jail time around here? They let you go if you're caught selling heroin. They let you go if you steal a car.
How did the shooter know where to find the victim, anybody know? I'm really, really hoping the victim wasn't known to have "a corner" in S.O.
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breal
Citizen
Username: Breal
Post Number: 904
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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Dr. Winston--On the camera question, do you ever wonder where the dealers of East Orange relocated after the candid camera program there cramped their style? Not jail, I don't think. The articles on the E.O. "success story" didn't talk about a spike in arrests and convictions. I bet the dealers just found more hospitable corners, places with no cameras, maybe, and where cops don't enforce loitering laws. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 2135
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 1:38 pm: |
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no I wasn't wondering that, which is not surprising, since I didn't write anything about cameras.
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breal
Citizen
Username: Breal
Post Number: 906
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 1:56 pm: |
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Sorry, my mistake. Time to go out for some air. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 11642
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2006 - 12:24 pm: |
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To be honest the other crime stories on the front page upset me more than some gangbanger getting shot when he came to town for a haircut. How about the Maplewood couple convicted of Arson and the carjacking on South Orange Avenue? That seems worse to me, but then I don't claim to be all that normal.
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catmanjac
Citizen
Username: Catmanjac
Post Number: 230
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 2:50 pm: |
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WE NEED HIM! |
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