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mjh
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 6:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I get it SLK. In fact, I said it. You're not reading. BTW, I'm not a man.

Think yourself, man.

mj
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Spqr
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As someone who lost friends, my workplace and my sense of safety that day...I do not forget the horror...I carry it with me EVERY SINGLE DAY! I do not personally know the widows, but I am personally offended by Coulter's idiocy. For anyone who lived in this area of the country on that day to not be outraged by her comments is SHAMEFUL!
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Hagbard Celine
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 4:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there is very special place in hell reserved just for ann coulter.

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S.L.K.s. Ghost
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 9:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

While I do think Anne could use some sensitivity training I do understand where she is coming from in some ways.

I hold the same sentiment towards the "Family Victims of 9/11" or whatever you call them and the rebuilding of the WTC.

While it is unfortunate and sad that they lost family members, it doesn't make you an expert on the subject nor make your opinion more valid.

Ok, I put my cup on. You can start laying into me now...

-SLK
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tjohn
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"While I do think Anne could use some sensitivity training I do understand where she is coming from in some ways."

No, Anne Coulter is just plain mean. She needs to walk a mile in the shoes of somebody who lost a family member on 9/11 or in Iraq.
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Posted on Friday, June 9, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything for a buck.
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S.L.K.s. Ghost
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Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn-

Is Anne mean or just being honest with her sentiment towards them? Victims aren't exempt from criticism, no matter how unjust it seems.

anon-maybe maybe not. This is nothing new for Anne so maybe she is being just that-Anne. But if she is doing for the for publicity she unfortunately isn't the first or last to do it on both sides of the political spectrum.

Lowes delivery here....gotta run...

-SLK
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Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tjohn, SLK,and everyone: I suggest you read John Tierney's column in the NY Times today. (I'm not really good at linking) I think he hits the nail on the head.
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S.L.K.s. Ghost
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Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anon-

You beat me to the suggestion...read it in NetNomads this afternoon...good article....

-SLK
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mimosa
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 8:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd appreciate it if someone could link to this article.
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3ringale
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This morning's Star Ledger notes that the cartoonist Ted Rall was dropped from the NYT web site....for a cartoon implying that the 9/11 widows were greedy. Maybe he could illustrate Ann Coulter's next book.
Cheers
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tjohn
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 9:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can find plenty of fault with the behavior of some of the 9/11 survivors and, generally, with the absurdly expensive 9/11 memorial.

However, at the end of the day, Anne Coulter is still a really mean-spirited person. If she had loftier goals than to be a shock-jock, she could have expressed her complaints with 9/11 widows in civilized terms.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 3:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Which would mean she would have written a chapter on the 9/11 families that would have taken the tone that Tierney did in the Times. But of course, when is the last time you saw John Tierney on TV?

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anon
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't he have a cameo on "Sopranos"?
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Innisowen
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's remember that Ann Coulter has one major stock-in-trade: she knows how to manipulate media to market herself better than any other content-free, pop writer (let's not belittle the writing profession by calling her an "author").

If you've read just one of her endless polemical vomiting bouts, you've read them all.

And she's ugly too.
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Parkbench87
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 7:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Puke1
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 7:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Inny-

You sure came back cranky...what, the the third world dentists failed to fix your choppers?

-SLK
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Innisowen
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And I see that your worldview, SLK, is still primitive, narrow-minded, and insular, or should I say "typically American."

It would do you some good to get out of your comfort zone ( all those pillows, marshmallows, TV shows, and doritos have been poisoning your mind as well as your body).

Kind regards.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Inny-

Oh you silly high brow you. I see you can't shake that jesuit bombasity bug.

You leave the country for a month and now your all "cultured." I've been all over this globe to Inny, I just don't need to brag about like you do. Go back to the Motherland if you don't like "typical Americans."

Yes, I have a pillow on my bed, what, you don't?

Marshmallows are disgusting.

I haven't had a Dorrito in years.

I have been thinking about canceling our cable since my family rarely watches the tube.

Boy, you sure got me pegged.

Was that mean't to be a joke? Your sense of humor is horrific.

Warmest wishes,

-SLK 2.0
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the fact that Anne Coulter is an unabashed conservative has nothing to do with the revilistic (sp) animosity many of you are displaying on this thread?

Ummm, okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk...

-SLK
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

are you serious? do you really believe there's no reason to dislike Coulter, aside from her politics? why did NRO fire her ? certainly it wasn't because of her politics. it was because they considered her a complete embarrassment to their publication.
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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No. It has everything to do with her being a nut job.

Anne Coulter - Bio from MediaMatters.org


Quote:

Ann Coulter


Ann Coulter is a syndicated columnist for Universal Press Syndicate, a legal affairs correspondent for the conservative newspaper Human Events, and a frequent pundit and guest on Fox News Channel, MSNBC, and CNN. She is often billed as a "constitutional attorney," apparently based on her University of Michigan law degree and membership in the conservative Federalist Society (a chapter of which she founded while attending the University of Michigan Law School).

Coulter first came to national prominence as a legal correspondent and pundit for MSNBC, which fired her for insulting a Vietnam veteran. The conservative National Review dropped her column after she responded to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, by stating that America should "invade their [terrorists'] countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity." In an interview with The New York Observer, Coulter stated that "[m]y only regret with [Oklahoma City bomber] Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building." USA Today also removed Coulter as a columnist covering the 2004 Democratic National Convention after she referred to the gathering as the "Spawn of Satan convention."

She has become a highly visible pundit on the cable news circuit, noted for her particularly coarse and inflammatory invective directed at Democrats and progressives.




insane quotes here

Some samples -

"I think a baseball bat is the most effective way [to talk to liberals] these days." [10/6/04]

"I'm not blaming the Democrats for 9-11 alone. I'm blaming them also for the [USS] Cole bombing, for the embassy bombings, for 20 years of attacks that have not been stopped. " [8/16/04]

"What the Democrats want to do is sell blacks out." [10/25/04]

"[T]he [Democratic Party] platform is violating the Ten Commandments one by one." [2/28/05]


She is not a journalist, not a pundit. She is an instigator who has found a great way to sell her useless books and appearances.


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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK,

Coulter is one of too many intelligent people across the political spectrum who chose to make a living offending people instead of offering reasoned arguments in favor of their viewpoints. Sometimes, they can be funny, but in the way I might share a mean-spirited joke with a couple friends over cards. I don't find any of it particularly funny on the radio.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr O'Boogie,

I never said there was NO REASON to dislike Coulter. In fact I can easily see why people do dislike her and see why she can be a liability, but I am sure some of it has to do with political differences, especially on MOL.

I personally don't agree with everything she says but I admire her b*lls to say it. I dig her spunkiness.

Hoops-

Those quotes are insane? Why, because you don't agree with them? The baseball bat one is for sure insane. And the Dem/911 may be pushing it. But I find merit in the Dems selling out Blacks...

But please tell me, what is Anne saying any different than some of the comments made on these boards? There are no left wing equivalents to Anne Coulter (Al Franken)? Go check out some past posts from Alleygater, RL and even Tulip and let me know what you think.

Who needs Anne when you have MOL?

-SLK
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's a good point. there are a lot of obnoxious posters on MOL. some of them could probably use some self-awareness, too. the ones who think others find them obnoxious because of their politics, when in fact, others find them obnoxious because of their obnoxiousness.

same goes for Coulter. she has chosen to portray her ideas in the most revolting manner possible. Al Franken is no comparison. Ted Rall is perhaps the only person on the left that I'm aware of who chooses to be as inflammatory as Coulter. and when was the last time you saw him on TV? or on the cover of Time Magazine? nope, Coulter is unmatched in terms of her vitriol, and inexplicably high profile.
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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please stop with the Al Franken slander. He is extremely consistent in pointing out facts and debunking right wing 'inaccuracies'.

Anne Coulter has a national forum with which she uses to tar innocents, misrepresent facts and insult everyone who has any intelligence.

Please let me know how the democrats are 'selling out' blacks. The democrats have no race based agenda. The platform stands for equality and equal treatment under the law, guarantee of voting rights, access to the same quality education and opportunities for all citizens.

Of course YOU would find merit in her statements. Thats why you are on your 2.0 life here already.
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maplewood fan
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Ann is a devote christian? Hummmm, I thought christian values were based on love thy neighbor? Oh well, I guess this is simply more compassionate conservatism.
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Bob K
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SLK will probably go into one of his school voucher diatribes as how Dems are selling out African Americans. Meanwhile back at the ranch the new Supreme Court with Roberts and Alito in place is going to "revisit" Brown v. BOE next term, which sould be interesting. As late as last year with Ms. O'Connor on the Court they refused to do this.
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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maplewood Fan,

I have noticed the occasional mismatch between those who claim Christian values and those who practice them.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Please let me know how the democrats are 'selling out' blacks. The democrats have no race based agenda."


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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go ahead and educate me SLK. - but you can't can you.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone is a hypocrite at some point. I know I can be (and not afraid to admit it) and have experienced others around me being the same. It is almost human nature....

Believe it or not, I am sure if we dig deep enough into both of your lives we can find something hypocritical about you.

Maplewood Fan-I know what you mean, like when liberals claim they are all about "diversity" when we know they are not. Or when the the NYT claims to be the paper of record and we know that is donkey dung as well.

Bob K,

Ummmm, no, wasn't planning on doing any such thing.

-SLK
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoops-

How can you expect me to educate someone that is determined to play dumb?

-SLK
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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And, Anne Coulter remains an uncommonly venemous insect within the insect world. It is true that most of us are inconsistent to some degree in our beliefs and practices, but relatively few of us achieve the level of public meanness exhibited by Ms. Coulter. Kind of sad in a way - she has the intelligence to make a positive contribution to the world but choses, instead, to be a destroyer of reason and civility.

This behavior is found on the left and right, but it is Coulter who has claimed "most venemous" for the time being.
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tjohn-

Have you ever read Anne Coulter?

-SLK
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"Please stop with the Al Franken slander."

Yeah Hoops, naming your book "Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat idiot" isn't being mean at all...not by a long shot...\

UNfingbelievable....

-SLK

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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The problem with that statement is that I at least provide links to news articles, government websites, and other sites that support the positions that I take. You on the other hand only can criticize liberal positions without ever providing factual evidence pointing to your position. Most of the time you post half-baked responses that are on the derogatory side (perhaps in a feeble attempt at humor).

Again, I posted the link to Coulters biography, her statements speak for themselves. She is a freak and a phony. Hanging on to any of her words as being indicative of liberal positions is preposterous and looking to her for validation of your own opinion is sick.

Please post links that prove your point or write a cogent response indicating your opinion and which facts support it.

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Hoops-

See my post above...

-SLK
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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As you say have you read the book? Rush is in the entertainment business, was big and fat and a liar so all of those things applied. I assume that Rush could have sued Franken but he would have lost on all accounts, considering that Franken showed in the book all the lies that Rush tells.

Now if Coulter was doing nothing but attacking Franken, then she would get a pass, but instead she is attacking almost half of the American people with statements like

I'm not blaming the Democrats for 9-11 alone. I'm blaming them also for the [USS] Cole bombing, for the embassy bombings, for 20 years of attacks that have not been stopped. " [8/16/04]

There is a huge difference. I am suprised that someone of your background cant tell the difference.
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SLK,

Sometimes people so successfully define themselves by their sound bytes that one doesn't need to read their full works to understand what they have to say. I don't have time for much reading these days and certainly won't waste any of it on reading self-proclaimed pundits.
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoops-

You are justifying calling someone a "big, fat , idiot" as entertainment?

So what Al writes is truth and what Coulter writes is not?

Good god...show your true partisan colors there Hoops, good boy...

That is why I can never take you seriously....

-SLK

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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoops,

BTW, anyone can google a topic and come up with something...

challenge yourself one day, it will do you some good...

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The Rev. Al Sharpton first brought the issue to national attention in the Democratic primary presidential debates. Sharpton openly criticized his party for taking the black vote for granted and vocalized the disappointment many feel toward the Democrats.

The Republicans appear eager to seize the opportunity to court the black vote. Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie told one newspaper that the Republicans are launching a major campaign to make some headway within the African American community. They have a goal of winning 25 percent of the black vote this fall. Gillespie predicted the GOP will make significant progress with African American voters (a task not many Republican presidential candidates in recent memory have been able to accomplish).

The Republicans have an arduous task ahead of them. President Bush’s stance on issues like affirmative action, and his record on the economy could serve as a deterrent to potential black voters. The political action committee also indicated that 52 percent of the African Americans surveyed said the GOP ignores the black community completely.

William Sampson, DePaul University public policy professor, stated his amazement that this figure was so low. Sampson asserted that the figure should be higher because the Republicans have a long history of ignoring blacks.

Chris Garrett, director of the Grass Roots Program for the Republican National Committee, dismissed the program’s critics. Garrett said that the Republican Party has been “aggressively recruiting African Americans to run for office and participate in the process.”

Garrett also explains that the Republican National Committee has been “[organizing] team events and going into African American communities ... trying to get people involved in the local Republican Party.”

The theme for this presidential election looks to be “energizing your base.” But according to Professor Sampson, no one really is going to energize the black community. “Courting the black vote is risky,” he says. “It will alienate others that are not directly affected by [urban issues like] poverty and drugs.” Citing Sharpton as the case in point, Sampson asserted that Sharpton’s message did not resonate with voters because, “he turned off a lot of people.”

Notwithstanding, the Democrats have taken umbrage at what this poll implies. “African Americans are the most loyal group of Democrats the party has. We can’t take one single vote for granted. And we won’t,” vowed Democratic National Committee press secretary Tony Welch.

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Leviticus Turner, a 24-year-old African American female and second-generation college graduate from Chicago, defines herself as an Independent and was a self-described Democrat until 2000. When asked what prompted the switch she responded, “I don’t just vote on party lines anymore. I used to. Although I was never, explicitly, told to vote Democratic, it was implied: That’s what black people do. But now, I look at each candidate individually.”

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Although Turner is open to voting for a Republican, she said won’t vote for Bush. Turner pointed to the economy as the main reason why she is seeking another option.

The Economy

The economy will be the administration’s toughest selling point to African Americans. The rate of unemployment for African Americans is twice the national average. Jobs and the economy top the list of concerns for African Americans from the political action committee’s survey. Conversely, Sen. John Kerry’s economic plan seems to be gaining support within black communities, which have been devastated by the loss of jobs.

“Given the fact that there is no economic recovery. Blacks will not vote for Bush in the numbers that (the Republicans) think,” said Sampson. “If the choice is to vote for one that ignores you or one that takes you for granted, the option for some blacks will be to stay at home.”

Welch disagrees: “One of the things we’ve noticed is African Americans know that there is too much riding on this election to stay at home.”

Felix Lloyd, a 65-year-old consultant for Future View International, says that in 1974 he switched from the Democratic to the Republican Party, saying the inconsistency within the Democratic Party was the reason.

“The Republicans are clear about what they want,” Lloyd says. He maintains that access to capital is the chief concern for African Americans, but the Democrats do not address it enough. “Blacks need to build capital and the Republicans are giving us a chance with programs like the president’s Faith Based Initiative.”

Welch acknowledged some of the shortfalls of his party: “There is no one claiming the Democrats are perfect. We are not going to stop working. Our relationship (with African Americans) is not an election-year alliance. It goes back decades.”

With a lot riding on this election, it will not be unusual to see both parties call on the African American community for support. Many African Americans are seeking alternative options to what they have called “Democratic complacency.”

Whether African Americans’ dissatisfaction will manifest in votes for the Republicans remains to be seen.


-SLK



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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

again you cant post fact because you dont know facts. You opinion is handed to you daily by the WSJ. Go to the library and borrow the book. Wont cost you a dime and you might learn something.

I cant figure out why you want to defend Rush Limbaugh. Talk about a hypocrit. You arent related are you?

And as a matter of fact if you ever read an Al Franken book you would know that they are fully researched and vetted with full bibliographies noting where the information they recite is gathered. It is obvious you havent even picked one up.

Its ok though. You are stuck in Bush world and cant figure out how to get out. Interestingly as soon as Franken decides he wants to be a Senator he will win his state in a landslide. He may be a humorist but he is also compasionate and has brilliant ideas about what our nation should do.

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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoops-

You are completely lost. Do you eat lunch at lunch or smoke crack in the stairwell?

I am not defending Limbaugh, I am questioning Franken referring to Limbaugh in such a nasty way, in a book title of all places.

What did you say above? "I am suprised that someone of your background cant tell the difference"

And you justify it as entertainment.

Forget it hoops....your a lost cause...

-SLK


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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

taken for granted is not the same as selling out. That article is a hoot. Do you really think that republicans are getting the black vote next election. With all the benefit cuts to inner cities, head start programs cut, college loan programs cut, funding for jobs cut.

And lets not forget Ohio, where black voters had to stand in line for 10 hours or more to vote because not enough machines were available, where black voters were challenged and discouraged from voting. But the democrats are selling them out - right.

Please find me a credible story.
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Hoops
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice of you to assume that I am smoking crack, on a message board of all places.

Again you can not present any facts to support you position because you dont know any.

Forget it SLK you are just plain lost.
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S.L.K. 2.0
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two post in a row, what getting frazzled?
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Ann Coulter comes off a little harsh sometimes. I think she's a hoot. And she's fine-looking, too.

Yowza!
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK:

Just read your reply.

The "go back to the motherland" phrase is the typical "refuge of scoundrels," whigs, and know-nothings, but I'll let it pass.

I'll assume that as a real American, you didn't mean it. You just couldn't think of anything else to say so you fell back on the old standard "go back where you came from."

If you've been all over the world, which may be true or false, there's nothing I can perceive in your postings to substantiate it. You appear to lack the insight and experience of someone who is well traveled, unless you're doing your damndest to try to hide it.

However, I will believe you, because you say so, just to make you happy.
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Innyboy-

Nope mean't what I said. What did you expect an "primitive, narrow-minded, and insular, or should I say "typically American"" to say?

I know, I know, you are well-traveled as well. According to you Inny, you are so god-like you probably can walk on water. Well, the Atlantic is pretty wide. Just put one foot in front of the other and soon you'ss find your ungrateful arrogant behind back where you belong-Limerick.

-SLK

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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK:

Nice tone. Nice tone. I guess you're a great American.

I never said I was god-like. I guess you did, but then you seem impressed by anyone who can hold two consistent thoughts and/or divergent ideas at one time without being exhausted.

I'm not sure what I expected you to say, but I am not surprised that specifically you would say it and mean it.

Oh, just one observation: I've crossed the Atlantic at least 200 times in my personal and business life. I have yet to see anyone traverse it one foot in front of the other. You could give a try if you want. Wait until January to do that, however. It's real sporty then.

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Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hoops,

SLK is somewhat right about Democrats taking African Americans for granted lately. We’ve seen a good amount of the younger AA’s registering as Independent voters.

However, your statement of “taken for granted is not the same as selling out” is true. I can’t disagree with you there. If the Republicans want to win over African Americans, this Bush administration is doing a POOR job of it. The Katrina incident really put a STAMP on how this administration treated low-income AA’s and even the low-income whites after this hurricane hit and left a sour taste of the lack of sympathy shown.

I guess most African Americans feel this way. At least I do with the statement below:

“The Republican Party's leadership may be traveling the country reaching out to minority voters, but anyone can see through the empty rhetoric and broken promises. After four years of failed leadership from President Bush, more and more African Americans are forced to work two or three jobs just to keep up; veterans are forced to struggle with their own government for health benefits; the failure to fully fund No Child Left Behind is leaving behind low-income children; record numbers of African Americans are uninsured; and African Americans face unparalleled unemployment levels.

"Republicans like to talk these days about their connection with African Americans and their heritage as the party of Lincoln. This new stump speech is chock full of apology but light on true repentance. Contrition doesn't amount to much if you don't turn away from the original breach. If the Republican Party wants to reach out to African American voters, they should forget the empty rhetoric and pursue an agenda that truly promotes opportunity for all Americans."


SLK,

The quotes that was stated in that published piece you posted by African Americans, I bet there are thousands more African Americans who are NOT feeling the Republican Party. If they(Republicans) want to “win over” African Americans they have an even bigger hill to climb than Democrats do right now.

Not only have this administration ignored African Americans they've ignored plenty of low-income to middle class families,and our veterans who've fought for this country of ALL colors. (Read some of the stories of soldiers who've fought in Iraq and finished their tour of duty and the way they are treated by our government.) Sad.


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Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Inny-

Oh calm down boy. Of course I don't want you to leave. You just irked me on another board. I was wondering where you were for the longest time (knowing you were overseas) and then, voila, you reappear out of the blue. I gave you a great big greeting and you reciprocated by attacking me and my fellow countrymen.

I didn't appreciate it very much, but I am over it. You could of at least returned the greeting before ripping some new ones.

Stay as long as you like. It is fun to get all riled up!

-SLK
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Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 3:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SLK:

My apologies, sincerely.

Thanks for the good welcome, and I am sorry to have failed to acknowledge it.

I have to chalk up my irritability to about 45,000 airmiles in about five weeks. I am sorry if I seemed to take it out on you.

When I rip you a new one in the future, I'll fire a warning shot.

Kind regards (and I always mean that).

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Posted on Tuesday, June 13, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Innyboy-

No worries, we are good...

-SLK

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