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Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5334
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 1:06 pm: | 
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Call me stupid, I wouldn't expect this kind of behavior at an Ivy League School! Sure Princeton has their 'Naked Olympic' thing at the first snow, but...
Police Raid 'Animal House' Fraternity
By ANNE SAUNDERS, AP
HANOVER, N.H. (June 9) - Authorities raided the Dartmouth College fraternity that helped inspire the movie "Animal House," carrying off 10 crates, a computer and other items. Investigators refused to say what the search on the Ivy League campus was about.
Court documents on Thursday's raid were sealed, and Hanover police said only that the search at the Alpha Delta house was part of a two-year investigation and that they expect to make arrests. Alpha Delta members turned a reporter away at the door Friday.
Dartmouth junior Joe Kutney, a member of the Tri-Kap fraternity, said Alpha Delta can be "a pretty crazy house" whose members are proud of their party reputation. But he added that Alpha Delta is not the only Dartmouth frat with such a reputation.
"Animal House" portrayed fraternity debauchery at the fictional Delta House, whose members repeatedly thwart and embarrass the Faber College officials determined to banish them. One of the writers of the 1978 movie, Chris Miller, was a 1964 Dartmouth graduate and a member of Alpha Delta.
Police removed 10 crates, two bags, a videotape and a computer during the raid. Police Chief Nick Giaccone said a 19-year-old student was arrested at the house on a drug charge Thursday, but the arrest was not related to the investigation.
The police chief said the investigation began in October 2004 following an incident at the fraternity, which is owned by a group of its alumni called the Dartmouth Corporation of Alpha Delta.
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George Ostler, lawyer for the fraternity members, would not comment except to call the search a "major interruption." The raid came as parents began arriving on campus for graduation Sunday.
Dartmouth spokesman Roland Adams said the school does not release disciplinary records for Dartmouth's 24 single-sex fraternities and sororities or the three co-ed organizations. More than a third of the school's 4,100 undergraduates are members of single-sex fraternities and sororities. Adams would not say what the investigation was about.
Frats and sororities are central to the social life on the rural campus, and some of them have a reputation for hard drinking and raucous behavior. Dartmouth has been trying for years to curb the drinking, reduce the role of fraternities and give students more things to do.
Last year, the Theta Delta Chi fraternity was indicted on charges it served alcohol to minors. And in 2001, the school banned the Zeta Psi fraternity for printing newsletters that detailed the sexual exploits of its members
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Shanabana
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Username: Shanabana
Post Number: 546
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 1:23 pm: |
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Proof that Ivy Leaguers aren't perfect: George W. Bush. |
mooewe
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Username: Mooewe
Post Number: 351
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 8:27 pm: |
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Ted Kaczynski - Harvard Class of 1962 |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 1955
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Dartmouth - it's been "Hangover, NH" since before I was born.
Ivy League has never translated to good neighbors - I grew up in a "2nd choice" Almost-Ivy town (Amherst, MA) They voted out frats circa 1985 after the DKE's took an ax to a grand piano.
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cmontyburns
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Username: Cmontyburns
Post Number: 1865
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:11 am: |
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"I wouldn't expect this kind of behavior at an Ivy League School."
What kind of behavior are you referring to? The story doesn't say anything about what the alleged improper behavior was.
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ess
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Username: Ess
Post Number: 2204
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 1:58 am: |
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I don't think that Ivy League college students are exempt from acting like college students. Pranks abound at most campuses, not just those not in the Ivy League. If you really want to split hairs, making some sort of statement that "improper" behavior is not expected of Ivy League students implies that it is expected from students elsewhere.
That said, CMonty raises a good point: the article did not state what specific behavior was "improper". |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8005
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:05 am: |
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Who expected them to be different from other students? One could say that a privileged legacy student at an Ivy can be a lot more cavalier about their college education than a state school student going thru on loans. |
John
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Username: Jdm
Post Number: 66
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:44 am: |
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Lydia,
We Jeffs prefer "Little Ivy" and like to point out that our alma mater is more selective than at least a few of the Ivies, and typically not a second choice for those who attend. 
Frats were banned after a series of incidents and during an interim presidency before the '84-'85 academic year. A few are still around, though not officially sanctioned. Before they were banned, they did little more than provide weekly parties - the importance of which should not of course be minimized. |
Crazy Guggenheim
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Username: Crazyguggenheim
Post Number: 895
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 4:28 pm: |
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Call me crazy, but my alma mater was in the "Poison Ivy" league |
Flameretardant
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Username: Flameretardant
Post Number: 15
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:57 pm: |
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As a Princeton alum who turned down acceptances from Harvard, Dartmouth and Amherst ... we Tigers like to point out that the so-called Little Ivies are certainly little, but not Ivies. And as for their being more selective, well, I guess that's true if you look at the likes of Cornell. And Dartmouth? Well, it's a probationary member of the Ivy League. At best.
Sincerely,
Proud and Pompous Princetonian |
AntoninaKC
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Username: Antoninakc
Post Number: 253
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 1:53 am: |
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John - What school do "Jeffs" come from?
Pardon me if its common knowledge- I only went to SHU lol |
Flameretardant
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Username: Flameretardant
Post Number: 17
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:13 am: |
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I'll chime in, because as a Princeton alum, I'm used to having all the answers, LOL. John can correct me if I'm wrong, but of course that's highly unlikely.
"Jeffs" or "Lord Jeffs" refer to students of Amherst College. As in "Lord Jeffrey Amherst," a British governor of the Massachusetts colony who was well-known in those parts for fixing problems with the belligerent Native Americans. His solution? A gift of blankets that were infected with smallpox.
What a brilliant role model for young minds.
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John
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Username: Jdm
Post Number: 70
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 9:09 pm: |
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The college is named after the town, which is one of many named after his lordship (who was, as FR notes, a real nasty guy).
I think the smallpox-infected blankets were used but once. Not an excuse, of course.
Essentially, despite the inferior education, FR is indeed correct.  |
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