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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 698
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's have cell phones banned from all public areas just like smoking.

Headline: More companies ban cell phones at work

June 20, 2006: 12:50 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - The use of cell phones at work is being limited by many companies as more workers object to the noisy beeps and ring tones from personal calls at work, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

USA Today reported that 30 percent of employees cited cell phones ringing at work as their No. 1 pet peeve at the office.

Many workers have complained that some people seem to require surgical removal of cell phones in order to put them down.

More than half of workers surveyed said they get impatient or angry when a coworker stops a conversation because of an incoming wireless call, according to a Sprint survey cited in the article.




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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1178
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why don't you go live in an igloo in the arctic...where nothing and/or no one will bother you? (except maybe how you will have to kill "innocent" animals to eat..unless of course renouncing all of your worldy possesions has left you with enough to import your tofu cakes and seaweed cocktails.)

Guns, now cellphones...I'm interested in seeing what is next on your list.
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red
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Username: Redy67

Post Number: 5882
Registered: 2-2003


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other day I was at the Yankee game and this woman is talking on her cell phone in the bathroom. Goes into the stall, USES the toilet, and is still talking when I walked out. EW!
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 699
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 6:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything that is loud, disturbs the public (whom I represent) and just generally threatens public safety.

In particular, I target obnoxious gadgets that make men feel like hotshots. Loud racing cars, SUVs, guns, wireless devices that promote ostentatious macho behavior, pit bulls and hockey (those two aren't gadgets, I know).

Most of the world's problems can be directly attributed to "boys being boys." Just look at George Bush. No question, we wouldn't have so much noise and wars if women were in charge.

Reject men and their pathological need to be BMOCs.
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Glock 17
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1180
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 6:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Next time you are reppin' the public. Leave me out of it.

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Rastro
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Post Number: 3399
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 7:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have a work number. My company requires that I use my cell phone for work purposes. It is the only number on my business card.

Reject bombastic loudmouths and their sweeping generalizations.
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Crazy Guggenheim
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Username: Crazyguggenheim

Post Number: 897
Registered: 2-2002


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 8:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Call me crazy, but anyone remember the NO SPITTING signs in the subways? Really cramped my style.
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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 805
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti, in the essence of full disclosure, care to share why the self-flagellation? Were you a "BMOC gone Bad" yourself at onepoint? Did you have an accident driving an SUV with a Gunrack, while listening to the Rangers play, and talking on the cellphone? Why so in touch with your feminine side these days?

You remind me of the Albino monk in DaVinci Code......

PS. Some of the most vicious people I know have been women....I also seem to see more Women inappropriately on cell phones than I do men, so I don't get your analogy....I'm not sure I think we're any safer with one gender or another in charge.

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S.L.K. 2.0
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Username: Scrotisloknows

Post Number: 1740
Registered: 10-2005


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 9:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti-

No guns/hunting and now this.

You sure have issues with all things masculine.

"Anything that is loud, disturbs the public (whom I represent) and just generally threatens public safety."

Does this apply to your thread as well?

Personally I do think cellphones should only have vibrating ring functions. Why let the whole world know you are receiving a phone call?

-SLK
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Cougar86
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Username: Cougar86

Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti lives in a no fun zone
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 701
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have plenty of fun: stamps, astronomy, cleaning, and collecting bugs, just to name a few of my leisure activities.

I can provide a more comprehensive list for those who are interested.

My fun just doesn't involve killing animals.
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 11896
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti, bug collecting usually involves killing poor innocent bugs, often with great cruelty, yah know, pinning those butterflies to a backer. :-)
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newone
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Username: Newone

Post Number: 405
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What goes through a man's head when he pins a poor butterfly (or other kind of bug) to a board?.

What is the sensation? Elation? Triumph?



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Smarty Jones
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Username: Birdstone

Post Number: 810
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Personally, I think there must be a sense of ENORMOUS satisfaction by taking the LONG, straight and hard Pin, and PIERCING the innocent, beautiful, yet frightened looking Butterfly....


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Cougar86
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Username: Cougar86

Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not to mention the MILLIONS of Dust Mites you stalk and kill when you clean!
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1778
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, just be glad he's more-or-less living in reality right now... trust me, he gets a lot dumber as time goes on.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 702
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I collect them in a Bug Bottle, observe and catalogue them, then let them go.
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LilLB
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Username: Lillb

Post Number: 1814
Registered: 10-2002


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought that the butterflies were dead before they were "pinned". Are you telling me they get pinned there while they're alive????

Please tell me they're dead first....
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Paper Bag Bandit
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1183
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who cares?
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Carla
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Username: Elbowroom

Post Number: 89
Registered: 9-2005


Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 2:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The problem with Ligeti's post is that he states one thing and then something completely different. Cell phones in public is one subject, cell phones at work another.

I think that unless your primary work phone is a cell phone that the ringer should be set to vibrate to avoid disrupting the workplace.

People who use phones in public should be courteous of others. Of course that is rarely the case. What I don't understand is why more people don't use handfree headsets. Especially while driving since, well, IT IS THE LAW! I saw a landscaper cutting a lawn very slowly with one hand while he had a phone in the other.
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Ima Perplecks
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Username: Victor

Post Number: 54
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a ritual. I hear a worker's personal
cell phone ring all day long.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 710
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 4:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Even with a headset, I think talking on the phone -- about who knows what -- while driving is a clear danger to yourself, your passengers and other drivers.

If there ever was a time to eliminate EVERY possible distraction, it's while you are driving in a swarm of NJ drivers, among the most aloof and poorly trained drivers in the country (as a population). Your focus should be exclusively on the road and other drivers.

Emergencies are emergencies. But let's face it, most cell phone calls are about:

1) Endless loops of "How are you? I'm great."
2) Email you sent.
3) Email you didn't receive.
4) Voicemail messages you didn't get.
5) Email you are planning to send.
6) Sports scores.
7) Cute guys/chicks you saw or are planning to look for.

None of this stuff needs to be covered during those critical moments you are behind the wheel. All map reading and telephone calling should be taken care of at a rest stop or the side of the road.
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tjohn
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Username: Tjohn

Post Number: 4419
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 4:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There Ligeti goes again, assuming that because he uses his cell phone for items 1-7, therefore everybody must.
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Cougar86
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Username: Cougar86

Post Number: 10
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 9:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

should we also ban Drinking/Eating, Conversing with a passenger, doing makeup, reading (yes I've seen this), listening to radio/cds, daydreaming, fantasizing?

How bout having stuffed animals on your dash or rear deck? Or hats!

All of these are distractions
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 715
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone told me you can actually buy a TV for your dashboard. Is this true?

Reject hyperdistractability and all the electronic gadgets that promote it.
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Paper Bag Bandit
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1231
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If someone has the money and time to put a TV in their dashboard...whatever. Why does it bother you that much?
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 716
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You think it's a good idea to watch TV while you drive?
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Paper Bag Bandit
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Username: Glock17

Post Number: 1234
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just because the TV is there doesn't mean they are going to watch it while driving.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 717
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure most folks will agree this last exchange ranks as one of the silliest in MOL history.
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You're Not Cleared F
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Username: Umoja

Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 1:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Banning never solves any problems.

Cellphones are here to stay, they're an integral part of society, and just because we can't fully socially accept them (YET), that doesn't justify banning their use.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro


Post Number: 3430
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti, the top ten list would mostly be exchanges you're involved in .
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1797
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rastro - careful. Ronald Reagan got shot for a lot less. ;)
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Bob K
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 11947
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 9:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cell phones have probably changed our world more than any other invention, including the internet. Now a significant number of people are at the beck and call of their employeer, spouse, children and friends 24/7/365. There used to be something relaxing about jumpind in the car or on the train at the end of a day and knowing you had x minutes of peace and quiet.Not any more. I turned down a "free" car phone fifteen years ago for this reason. Not any more.

On the train coming home I am always taken by the fact that so many of the conversations are basically about nothing and sooooo looooong and this goes for both social and business calls.

People are walking down the street looking like escapees from the looney farm as they gab away on their hands free phone. People leaving at the end of the day from work pull out and start yaking on the phone in the elevator on the way to the lobby.

Also, for most people turning the phone off isn't an option. I don't know if they are afraid they will miss a call or afraid of their boss, significan other or spouse working them over about being out of touch.

I much prefer smoke signals myself.


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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 720
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I, too, need a cell phone for work. But I think the device actually feeds the urge to procrastinate. The impulse is to assume you'll return calls on the train or wherever, and it often does not happen.

My strategy is to focus on getting my work done AT the office and not inflict my workload on fellow commuters.

Instead of getting trapped into the silly, endless loops of email and voicemail -- which have dramatically reduced our productivity compared with workers of the previous generation -- I place calls when I know someone is available, and I strut into people's offices to get answers to specific questions. Decisions are made far quicker when you rely on person-to-person communication.

My reliance on low-tech methods allows me to get a lot more accomplished than the compulsive cellphone-PDA-laptop crowd, who spend much of the day fussing with their wireless appliances and not actually working.
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newone
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Username: Newone

Post Number: 414
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's what I don't get (just happened to me a minute ago). I have been trying to reach someone who is a reference on an investigation I am doing and was given the persons cell phone number. I called it expecting to leave a message on voice mail but the person answered and basically said she's at work and can't answer my questions then. Well, why the hell do you have your phone on at work if you obviously can't talk on it?

Me, I can't wait until the end of the day when I can turn mine off (it is my business phone so it is on all day).
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Username: Big_poppa

Post Number: 718
Registered: 7-2004


Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 2:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I place calls when I know someone is available

WTF????? Ligeti, are you a mind reader now? If you can determine when they are available, just communicate telepathically.

REJECT THE CONTINUING STUPIDITY OF LIGETI!!!!
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1801
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 4:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Note that he also "struts" into someone's office to get answers to specific questions.

How odd - I always imagined Ligeti being the SOURCE of all the answers!

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