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Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7672
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 7:27 pm: | 
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Do we all agree that:
this vandalism was just plain wrong and should never have occurred;
if this is indeed a tradition, this should be the last year in which this particular tradition is practiced;
it is more effective to take steps to prevent this from happening next year than to stand guard over the parking whether done by vigilanties or the police of either town?
If not, why not? |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1291
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 1:33 am: |
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Because seniors in HS should learn that they are not that cool? |
crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 717
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 6:18 am: |
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Watts- helllooo,Ms. Radish said, 'it's not a big deal' and 'kids don't keep their cars clean anyway' and you called it 'good natured vandalism'.
THis could only come from people who feel some sort of entitlement who have some twisted logic that these kids with cars wouldn't care because you yourselves don't care. You two sicken me with your 'no big deal' attitude.
Don't try to think so hard next time. Reporting shaving cream on your car has nothing to do with it, likewise the price of tea in china. |
Peter J. Watts
Citizen
Username: Peter_watts
Post Number: 48
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 1:12 pm: |
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Crabby - you're 100 percent correct. I don't care. And it seems like the kids don't care. And it seems like the parents don't care. The only people who seem to care are busybody MOL'ers who somehow see this as a barometer for the deterioration of the South Orange/Maplewood area. What will this lead to next? Human sacrifice? Dogs and cats living together? Mass hysteria? |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1300
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |
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As long as beaker doesn't blow up the lab...everything should be fine. |
Illuminated Radish
Citizen
Username: Umoja
Post Number: 5
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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Pick your battles crabby, not everything is really all that important. This is one of those things.
Besides why would a kid care, if like you said, they don't pay for car insurance? And why do you really care that much that me saying it's 'not a big deal' offends you? |
crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 721
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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THe kids who DID the prank, you ninny. So, was it your prank? DId you have fun keying the cars? Yeah, no big deal.
Watts, why do you assume the parents don't care? |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1306
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 4:36 pm: |
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Because someone doesn't care, Crabby they are automatically one of the pranksters? |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7676
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |
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One problem is that the same people who feel it is okay to trash a lot of cars may also feel it is okay to commit other forms of vandalism. This kind of behavior needs to be curtailed before it spreads any further.
Another problem is that this type of vandalismn is destructive. The people who commited this vandalism damaged other people's property requiring them to expend effort and cash to restore their vehicles to driveable condition. There is nothing funny about doing this to anyone.
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Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1311
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 5:43 pm: |
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Dumping flour and eggs on someones car does not make it un driveable, Joan. Hit the windshield wipers. |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5525
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 8:42 pm: |
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Petie
If you think this is just a "little good natured vandalism" please post your address and the license plate information on your car. Also a way to confirm said information is accurate. I am sure there will be more then a few who would be happy to go trash your car for you... |
Just The Aunt
Supporter
Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5526
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 8:45 pm: |
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Whatever happened to just soaping someone's windows or wrapping a car in TP? |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 695
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 9:59 pm: |
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Glock. It apparently wasn't only on the glass. Eggs and such
can do a REAL job on the finish.
Anyway, vandalism should NEVER
be accepted as 'business as usual'. (sermon over) |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1323
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 2:11 am: |
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Scully, (while still pretty messed up in general) when has damage to a cars finish EVER rendered it un-driveable? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 14844
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 8:55 am: |
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Drivability is not the question. I have no right to damage anyone's property, even if my vandalism doesn't render the property useless.
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Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 696
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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Thanks Tom. My sentiments exactly.
Glock, is your attitude really that you can trash someone elses car as long as it's driveable afterwards? That's nuts!
What's next? You can beat someone up as long as they can still walk when you are done?
How about some respect for yourself and others? |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3448
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:01 pm: |
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Glock, so you think it's ok for someone to spray graffiti on your house? After all, it's not affecting it's livability.
Oh wait, don't you live with your folks? I wonder how they would feel about that graffiti...
The stupidity of your comment is extreme, even for you. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1326
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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You should both learn to read. I didn't say it was OK, I was merely poking at Joan's exaggeration. Her statement made it seem as if windows had been smashed in, tires slashed, and mufflers stolen. |
Case
Citizen
Username: Case
Post Number: 1811
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Joan didn't exaggerate at all - if the paint on the cars was damaged (either by eggs or the old-fashioned key scrape) then it WILL take money to restore the vehicle.
Granted that you can drive a car with messed up paint... but why should you have to? Just because some idiot decided it would be funny to vandalize your vehicle?
I love your 'learn to read' comment - here's some real advice: learn to think before you speak (or in this case, type). At the same time, I give you full credit for not claiming this was some kind of White Man Plot again! |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7687
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 6:40 pm: |
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Case:
Thank you for explaining my position so well.
Glock:
How about the damage that was done to the affected seniors' memories of Midnight Madness? This is not the way our graduating seniors should remember their high school experience. |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1723
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 6:45 pm: |
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Joan, it is no use trying to speak to Glock. You will just and up driving yourself crazy trying to find out why logic does not appeal to his brain. |
Illuminated Radish
Citizen
Username: Umoja
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:08 pm: |
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The car's aren't damaged though. If the damage was so bad, people talk, and the high schoolers with ruined cars would have gotten their revenge. Since that hasn't happened, to the best of my knowledge, we know it's not a problem.
We can also assume it'll happen next year. It's not that big a deal, asbestos is a big deal (as an example). |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1330
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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None of that is relevant. Joan said money to restore the cars to driveable condition. And while it doesn't make what happened right, damaged finish does not make a vehicle un driveable. |
Glock 17
Citizen
Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1331
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:31 pm: |
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None of that is relevant. Joan said money to restore the cars to driveable condition. And while it doesn't make what happened right, damaged finish does not make a vehicle un driveable. |
entertainer
Citizen
Username: Entertainer
Post Number: 328
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 11:51 pm: |
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Case,
For the record, YOU brought race into this!
Glock's valid comment was in direct response to Joan's comment of "...requiring them to expend effort and cash to restore their vehicles to driveable condition." Eggs tossed at a vehicle won't render a vehicle undriveable, unless they're frozen, hard-boiled eggs. We all agree that these actions are no OK. |
crabby
Citizen
Username: Crabbyappleton
Post Number: 722
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 8:08 am: |
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Illuminated Radish- If it was that bad the kids would have gotten their revenge?
Such a punk mentality. |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7692
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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Glock 17:
Point taken. I'll just assume you consider it safe to drive around with all kinds of muck falling off your car and the possibility of windows being so caked with goo that you can't see where you are going. I never meant to suggest that any mechanical damage was done to the vehicles. Sorry if I was not specific enough in my comment.
Let's just agree that whoever trashed these cars was wrong. Arguing semantics won't undo the situation or prevent such vandalism from occurring in the future.
I sincerely hope this "prank" won't be repeated next year. |
Case
Citizen
Username: Case
Post Number: 1814
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |
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Thanks Entertainer - my comment is from another memorable Glockism (that I'm sure he'd rather forget).
If the actions taken require me to spend money (on repainting, for example) then I have to side with Joan. If it was a little soap on the windshield, that's a different story... but we already know that's not the case here - weren't some cars "keyed"?
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