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Rastro
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Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope you're ok, with all the flooding that is being reported throughout the Delaware River basin. Good luck.
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Pizzaz
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Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll second that motion. Be well, Tulip.....
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Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Lydia
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Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went to PA yesterday and took the big bridge over the Delaware River - it was the color of the chocolate river in "Willy Wonka" - there were huge old trees rushing along the white-caps like twigs.



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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 4:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow... I just discovered your good wishes.
THANK YOU!! You are going to make me cry...
Yesterday we were out looking at the flood. Frenchtown was OK, but our friend who has a restaurant there right by the river, had the water lapping at his front yard. This morning is cool and foggy. There were thunderstorms last night, but we are still OK. This neighborhood rallied after Hurricane Ivan, went to town hall and sat there staring at our mayor and town council until they agreed to clean out an old, blocked culvert and remedy our street. They did it, and it's holding well.

This flood took a different pattern from previous ones. It was all Delaware River, and few tributaries or hill streams flooding.
Our neighbors, however, have not fared as well. Just across the river on the PA side, things aren't good. We watched through binoculars on the Milford side of the bridge there as the river coursed through their homes.
It will be a cleanup nightmare, and I think some people who live right ON the river are deciding to go.
Why is this happening now? Why so many times?

The flood plain has expanded, because the water is seeking outlets when it has no marsh or wetlands into which to drain.

Anyway, thanks for your good wishes.

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Smarty Jones
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tulip, which areas/towns along the Delaware and tributaries have suffered the worst/are at their highest levels right now?

Were any towns evacuated, and have they returned yet?
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neighborhoods in Trenton were evacuated, but most are allowed back, in certain areas, today. All along the Delaware on both sides, from what I have heard by getting around, listening to conversations, asking questions, river residents who live right by the river found little notes on their doors on Tuesday to be ready to evacuate. Any and all residents on the PA side who were right at the riverside, got that note. On the NJ side, things were a lot better. The NJ houses generally sit higher. I think they can go back now if they want, but they are not rushing back as far as I could see. Evacuation decisions are pretty much left to the residents, with the exception of Trenton and spots along the PA side of the Delaware. Tributaries were generally sound, although I heard that the south branch of the Raritan in Stanton, up near Round Valley Reservoir in Hunterdon County, was overflowing its banks. I heard the Passaic was having problems and the Pequonnack?
I saw that the New Hope Bucks County Theater was under water, and the main street of New Hope was without water, electricity and many stores and businesses were under water. Homes along the PA side are generally lower or closer to the river, and closer to the canal. Riegelsville, two miles from us, is under water. As we cannot cross the river, we haven't inspected it, but we could see the river flowing really hard and fast through the houses. In Easton, any low land close to the river, including the lowland close to the Lehigh, is covered. A gas station and a McDonalds which stand about 300 yards from the confluence of the Lehigh and the Delaware are generally submerged. By now, some water may have receded.
On the New Jersey side, Trenton was hardest hit. I just heard that there were rescues from homes there. There are several neighborhoods right next to the river, and they were inundated. We saw last time what happened in the community of Washington Crossing, which is just across from Ewing Township, NJ, the homes had been indundated as well. Urban areas of course, involve much more damage because people are living in greater numbers close to the water.
In rural areas north of Trenton, the water sits in pools along route 519 between the river and the road. It hasn't crossed the road, with the exception of the low area in Frenchtown along route 29. There, the post office, several homes and stores, are sitting with water up to their first floors, at least. It's a muddy, dirty mess. You can actually walk on the bicycle path in Frenchtown, with the river lapping your feet on the left, and the river on the right of you, pushing up against the homes facing the river and the path to your right. There are sandbags around the Frenchtown Inn, holding water back, with pumps pushing the water away. There, and to the north in Milford, I heard residents say the water is only a few inches lower than the flood of last spring. I haven't seen today's conditions, but I would bet the water has subsided a bit.
In Milford, there's no real damage. The water is staying away from the homes.
In Carpentersville, a community of riverside homes in the Phillipsburg area, they won't let anyone go there. I could see last Tuesday that the water was beginning to reach the lower levels of those homes, so I would bet it has risen up into those homes this time.
In Phillipsburg, I saw very little damage. The water had not reached the level of last spring, or Hurricane Ivan in September 04.
In general, I think there may be some damage in those wonderful river restaurants on the PA side. The bicycle paths are probably really nearly gone.
I also fear what happened in Stockton, because the towpath/bicycle path was breached last time. Once the river has made some inroads, it uses them the next time it floods.
It's also the case that in some of the old NJ towns, there are hundred year old pipes under the bicycle path/towpath where the water comes through. These were built to let water out of the town and into the river, but they are working now in the opposite direction, letting water into the town from the river.
The other concern will be the bridges, and how well they stood up to the steady attack of water, wood, trees, debris, flowing at high speeds into them. You can hear the banging from quite a distance. The integrity of those bridges will be an issue, and they will probably be inspected for that. I don' know when they will open them again, so if you plan to cross one of the bridges, you should call port authority of PA/NJ and make sure they are open.
Call ahead if you are planning to visit the eastern end of PA for the holiday.
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Brett Weir
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tulip- Glad to hear that all is well, and I hope the Black Bass Inn (Pa, side) is safe.
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I am also concerned about the Golden Pheasant, a wonderful French restaurant that sits right between the canal and the river, and several others on the PA side.
Thanks for the good wishes!
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Smarty Jones
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Which wonderful river restaurants in PA? Been seeking good ones, and don't know where to start looking.
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Phenixrising
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stay safe tulip!
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Phenix. I love your avatar!!

Re: restaurants:
Well, there are hundreds. My husband and I have the girth to prove, we've been enjoying them for years.
For starters (the problem is, I don't know if they've been flood damaged or not) when the flood clears, of course, and look at their websites for directions, route 32 has the Golden Pheasant, whose chef is from France, and where they actually sell contemporary Campere pottery. There's the Black Bass in Upper Black Eddy, just south of Frenchtown, but on the PA side. There's a beautiful restaurant across from Stockton with a huge veranda (probably currently not open) where they do wedding receptions. There's a marvelous one down farther toward New Hope called Cuttalossa Inn with waterfalls by the outdoor area.
On the New Jersey side, there's the Stockton Inn, which was the inspiration for Cole Porter's song "There's a small hotel, by a wishing well..." It's right on route 29, but you can take a short walk to the Stockton bridge. But again, you may want to call ahead...
There's a wonderful NJ restaurant which looks like a roadhouse, where you can get a flavor of the western NJ culture and a wonderful steak at the same time. It's called the "Red Wolfe" and its on route 519, north of Phillipsburg on the way to Belvidere. I don't think it was hit at all by the flood, and they have three big wolves you can visit in the back yard. (There enclosed there, of course.)
There's a great seafood restaurant in a very unassuming neighborhood of Allentown called "Henry's Salt of the Sea." You go west on 22 to the 15th street exit, turn left at the light to Allen Street, right on 19th street, through the light on 19th and turn left immediately after to this small building that looks like a neighborhood tavern. Yummy seafood. No tie required.
There are dozens of interesting restaurants in New Hope and Lambertville, but they have generally climbed out of our price range.
Be warned about the roads and the river for the PA side of the Delaware. If you call ahead, give them a few days to drain out, I am sure they will be back in business.
The beauty of the Black Bass is that you can walk the footbridge to Bull's Island Park, outside of Stockton. Really fun.
We actually love the Red Lobster in Whitehall Township, on McArthur Blvd. North. It's about twenty miles over the PA/NJ border. We go right to the bar stools and have delicious lobsters.
Incidentally, you can get great, inexpensive VW cars at Gilboy Ford/VW in Whitehall on McArthur Blvd. North just past Stadt Avenue exit. (Not gastronomically related, but not astronomically priced!!)
There are also interesting restaurants in Bethlehem. I don't find them better than those we've frequented along the Delaware.


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Lydia
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tulip,

Glad you're OK.

I must have just missed the flooding, I was in Milford PA Wednesday afternoon, and it was sunny and packed with tourists. I haven't listened to the radio or watched the news in ages - now I know why there were so many detours!

It's really lovely out where you live Tulip, hope it dries up soon.

If we want to help out, what should we do? Clothing drives? $? Elbow grease and shovels? I'll be back in the area in a few weeks, and I can offer all of the above if you point me in the right direction. I'd definitely be willing to sit in front of the post office with some friends for a couple of Saturdays with my trusty water bottle/donations container.
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Joan
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 6:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tulip:

I'm so glad the flood missed you this time.

Does anyone know how Scully's house faired. When I spoke with her yesterday, she said there had likely been extensive damage but she hadn't been out to see it yet. They had just finished repairing the house from the last flood but fortunately hadn't installed the new appliances yet.
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 7:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydia, Joan, eveyone, you are so sweet!!
Lydia, it is lovely, and we are really getting to be quite seasoned at floods, so our neighborhood is doing well. To help, I would contact the Stockton and Frenchtown Fire Departments. They are really working hard. Emergency Management is on the scene in Stockton, where they are escorting people back to their homes. The fire departments are at the hub of the action, and would be able to make suggestions as to how to help. They are volunteer departments, so they always welcome donations. Also, the Easton PA, Reigelsville PA fire departments, municipal offices, will all probably be happy to hear from you and point you in the right direction. People are going to need lots of elbow grease and shovels most of all. In Carpentersville, NJ, in Pohatcong Township, they will need general construction help. Call municipal offices, if the fire departments don't answer. They are so busy. The municipal clerk's number is 908-454-6121. She is there most of the day, except lunchtime, and I am sure she will be happy you want to help.
We met volunteers from Califon, and other areas working in Stockton. They need builders, nurses, housecleaners, so if you want to donate some money for these types of services, I would suggest doing it through local government channels.
It's so nice of you to offer!!!

By the way, it's looking like rain again...


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Lydia
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll call the clerk and after the July 4th I'll dedicate at least one Saturday to raising funds - Joan? Can you help?

Tulip - I have to say I sort of fell in love with the area, my 7-year-old wants to move there and start a farm.

I always stop at Milford (this is on our way to summer camp) but I've never heard about Milford anywhere else - it looks like a tourist stop (lots of art glass, antiques and Real Estate offices) but walking in the little neighborhoods behind town just enchants me.

We took our dog for a walk, ate wild raspberries, played in a park - it's much less crowded than "the shore" and I thought it was prettier and friendlier too.

I'll definitely take out my donations jug for a few weekends - any MOLer's who want to pitch in - PL me.
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letters
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tulip,

Glad to see that you are fairing well. I lived in Yardley in the 50-60's and there were many floods back then also. As you have stated, people tend to get used to it or maybe feel more comfortable with it. Last time I was down there I stopped by a memorial on the Pa. side that used to be an entrance to a bridge that was wiped out by ice. I don't remember how many, but I know several people died. Rather than rebuild the bridge, they just made a small area with flowers and a plaque. And life just goes on.
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tulip
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 9:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Letters, Yardley is a lovely town. The whole area is so pretty. It is hard to face these calamities, but they seem to make the people more understanding and excepting of each other.

Lydia, That's a great idea, to start a farm. Milford, NJ is really not a tourist stop. It's a community of year-round residents who work in surrounding areas. The Baker is there, making "organic" pastries and bread, and the life of the main street is becoming more sophisticated every year. There are a few more antique shops this year as compared to last, and the Oyster House Restaurant has moved to a larger building. There's the Ship Inn, the first micro-brewery in New Jersey, and there are several flower and card shops. It really is a nice little town, and there's just plenty of land around for farming, with preserved farms adding to the mix. If you want to know more about this area, the newspaper, the Hunterdon Democrat is great.
Well, a huge bolt of lightning just struck. I am out.
Bye for now!!!
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Scully
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Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan - River 1, House 0. We got a couple of feet of water again.
All the repairs from the last flood have to come out
and there's mud everywhere.
What is amazing is that the bank is VERY steep (about 25 feet)
and for about the 15 years or so that we've been there we remained high and dry. Now we've had a couple of '50 year' floods in a row. Actually three in 21 months.
Makes us think of global warming/ development upstream.
But of course our 'troubles' pale against those who lost everything, some including their lives.

Lydia - I'd be interested in joining a fundraiser too either in time or in giving a contribution.
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Suzanne Ng
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Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 9:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI, Milford NJ (not to be confused with NEW Milford, NJ in Bergen County) is about 80 miles south of Milford PA on opposite sides of the Delaware River.

Milford PA, is way up north, near the NY/PA/NJ border, and Milford, NJ is near US 22 - near Phillipsburg/Easton.
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scully: So sorry this happened but I'm glad it wasn't worse.

Lydia: I spoke with you about this in the village this morning. Please let me know what you decide to do.
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tulip
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Posted on Saturday, July 1, 2006 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydia, Milford, in Hunterdon County, is much nicer, I think than Milford way up north in PA. It doesn't get flooded as much because most houses are on higher ground, it's more "in the loop" of trends in education, as Hunterdon County pays their teachers well by comparison, and there is an excellent elementary school. Of course, the very best elementary school, or one of the best, is Delaware Township School, in Sergeantsville (pronounced "Surgentsville") which is a k-8 and sends their students to Hunterdon Central High School. Really, although taxes are somewhat higher (you can find areas where they are not that high, but I am not sure where, other than Warren County) than Milford in PA, you will find many more community and school-related advantages, and what's even more important, there is regional planning, so you don't have the "Pocono syndrome" of bulletin boards and tourists all summer.
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Lydia
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Tulip and Scully - spoke to Joan in the village today, I still think raising $$$ is the best way I can help pitch in.

We've had good luck with group garage sales. After Tuesday, I'll be free from any committies, and I'll start organizing a big MOL/friends/my block tag sale with all the proceeds going to help flood victims.

I'll call the phone number you provided Tulip and we'll figure out where to send the $ where it will help the most and not get absorbed by overhead costs.

Tulip - I can't really figure out Milford PA, I just like it so much. It's cute without being cutesy.

There's a HUGE gorgeous down-on-it's-luck old mansion for sale on the main street - very much in shambles - but it's still so pretty. Huge old trees, big glass doors and a veranda...I also love the little houses behind town, pretty little gardens and pebbly roads, and everyone says "good morning"
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tulip
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You should go with something you like intuitively. We did that. There still are issues, but in general, we've had quite a life raising our children in this house for eighteen years. It was not the Upper West Side, but it was interesting. (I really like the upper west side, but how do you raise children there?)
The phone number I gave you is for Pohatcong Township. It's just one of the communities where some flooding occurred. They might be able to give you some advice as to how to help flood victims, but raising money and just donating it can be tricky. A thought occurs to me that the churches might be the way to go. Another contact would be the Phillipsburg Town Council. Ask the Pohatcong clerk, and she should give you a good idea of how to go about making a contribution. There's the Huntington Fire Department, who are always trying to raise money, but I don't know if they would give the money directly to the flood victims.
Let me know if, when, and how you would like me to help.

For the house in PA, be sure you get a flood history, a full home inspection, and check it out carefully before you make a commitment, I am sure you know.
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Lydia
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I'm not moving anytime soon - I just like to think about it. I grew up in the country and the Upper West Side - I liked both, but someday I want to have a place where I can have too many dogs and cats and a wood stove and a barn.

As far as $$ donations go - I trust churches, fire stations and food banks - we'll figure it out. First order of business is to raise the money.

I have a fabulous pair of Manolo Blahnik shoes given to me by a fellow MOLer - they've been perched in my closet for a year and I finally tried them on today and my huge toes attached to my huge size 9 feet hang over the end -- it's time for them to find a new home.

The irony of $700 sandals is - ironic?

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Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scully
I'm sorry to hear your house got hit. Tulip, glad to hear you and yours are safe. Lydia, I'd be happy to help with fundraising. I'm still waiting to hear from friends in Peaquannock and just over the border by the DWG. Also my friend who has a sister living near the river.
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tulip
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Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 7:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydia,
We are similar in so many ways, Upper West Side, love the country, and shoe size!!
I found that when I moved to this old parsonage we've been living in , I had to learn about water pumps, heating and electrical systems, roofing, siding. I know farmers in my neighborhood have a range of information most of us will never know.
My sister has a ranch in Washington State. She just e-mailed to me that when her husband's visiting his family in Tacoma, she has to stay behind and tend to the irrigation system!! My sister is a city girl, and had to be entirely re-educated. It's a challenge, but she always used to sit at the table and dream about how she wanted a huge family and a farm and lots of animals. Well, she has a daughter, and lots of horses, so that's half the dream I guess.

Land is very expensive out here, as you know. If you really want to visit the country, areas I have seen around Madison, Wisconsin are beautiful, and the university's always there for concerts, lectures, exhibits. It's not like living next to NYC, however, which is so nice for museums, Broadway, and things that have always been important to me and most of all, cultural diversity, which I find I really miss in some parts of the country.
I think Milford, PA is doing fairly well in that category.



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Lydia
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Madison WI is always one of my ideas for a great place to live. Probably if I ever make a big move away from NYC I'd head to Northampton, MA. I went to high school in Amherst, MA, and I whenever I go to visit it still feels like home.

Anyhow, I spent today going around and making a pile of stuff to donate for the tag sale - I have a lot of old furniture that's been in the attic for "one day" and that day hasn't come since we moved here - so it will all go to the cause and I'll finally have an empty attic.

An empty attic and a spot in my closet for a pair of shoes that may actually fit me!

BTW - where did you live on the Upper West side? My Dad lived on 88th bet. WEA and Riverside. My stepmother was a teacher at P.S. 75 for 25 years.
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tulip
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From recent to ancient times: I lived on 69th between Central Park West and Columbus while I was teaching at the McBurney School, which was across from Julliard. (McBurney closed a while ago.)
I also lived on 112th just off of Amsterdam when I was at Columbia, and I lived in the dorm at Teachers College when I first started graduate school. My family, grandparents, cousins, parents and I lived at 315 East 68th St. for years, my grandfather from about 1945 to 1970, my parents and I from 1949 to 1952. My Mom was born on the lower East Side, and they moved to 96th St. in about 1925. So we go way back.

Also, Lydia, we moved from New York to Pittsfield, MA when I was four years old. We lived at 544 Crane Ave., which is still there. But the town has grown up around it. I remember being able to see Mt. Greylock from out kitchen window. I remember my Mom had a vegetable garden, and we would pick mint that grew wild around our house, to put in ice tea. It was so delightful to move there and be out of the city, that my parents actually had their second child, a daughter. She was born in Pittsfield, while my father and I were having a spaghetti dinner at the Busy Bee Restaurant. Pittsfield is still beautiful, and so friendly.

The Berkshires are definitely the prettiest place in North America, as far as I am concerned.
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Lydia
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Tulip - you do go way back!

My grandfather was a professor at Columbia - he grew up on the lower east side, was in a gang and spent most of his teen-age years in reform school upstate - but he scrubbed up real nice when they sprung him.

McBurney! My stepmother set me up on a blind date with a former student of hers who brought me to an informal reunion at McBurney. The worst date ever - everyone knew everyone and then...there was me.

Remember Walden school on the upper West side? I went to summer camp/school there. We painted a mural (long gone) that was an ode to Ruckus Manhattan.

The book you HAVE to read is "Hypocrite in a Puffy White Dress" - if you haven't already. It's a memoir written by a woman who grew up on the Upper West raised by intellectual/lefty parents.



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tulip
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Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 6:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh NO!!!

My MOM went to Walden for elementary school, before she went to Horace Mann High School.

What subject did your grandfather teach? He might have been close in age to my mother, who also studied social work at Columbia.

Isn't this interesting how our paths cross going back two generations?
Are we a subculture?

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My grandfather was a math teacher at Columbia - last name was Ingersoll - he changed it from Reubenstein because he wanted to erase the whole reform school stint. Went all gentile.

I have a neat picture from "Life" magazine of my grandfather and grandmother playing Go in one of those old NY downtown taverns that're still around - the ones with all the pictures on the walls and the battered wooden tables.

My Dad played chess on the street with the minute-timers when we were kids - remember "Chess City" on 96th and B'way?

Oh - this is so much fun - maybe you and I can meet in person in Milburn PA in 3 weeks?

So funny that we got off on a bad start - all my good friends hated me at first, so it's a good start for us!


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Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds great, Lydia. Private-line me. I'd love to meet you.


Another coincidence, my grandfather loved to play chess, usually it was at the gazebo near the carousel at Central Park. He and my Dad played constantly at home, and my sons learned in their early years. It's a great game.
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My father is a chess-master!

He tried to get me to pick it up, but I was only good to a point. I visited my Dad awhile ago (he lives waaaay Upper West side now - Inwood) we were around 110th and B'way, where there are still a lot of street chess players - I try to join in with my Dad whispering the moves, but I'm really not a chess player - I can't think ahead.

OK - let's start PLing, I'll see you soon in PA - and the tag sale will happen in 2 weeks.
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Posted on Sunday, July 2, 2006 - 7:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I PL'd you. Let me know when you call the Pohatcong Clerk, and if there's anything else you'd like me to do. I will be working part time this summer, but we'll be in touch.

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