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Micheale
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Username: Micheale

Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2006
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 1:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live on Walton, and we've seen at least five cars pulled over in front of our house most days for the past couple of weeks. Glad to see it, since cars really go too fast down this road.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 8322
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 1:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey! Give me back my cop! He used to hide on the corner by my house & hasn't been around lately. Elmwood is getting out of control again.
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eliz
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Username: Eliz

Post Number: 1559
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 2:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a car sitting on Oakland Terrace Monday with a radar gun monitoring the traffic on Elmwood.
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Case
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Username: Case

Post Number: 1840
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 3:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's hoping this increase in town revenue will go to a good cause!
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2719
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's also hoping that this increase in enforcement will go towards reducing accidents, injuries and deaths by slowing people down!
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newone
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Username: Newone

Post Number: 418
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw them off of Ridgewood earlier this week. Officer standing by the road with a portable radar gun.
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mimi
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Username: Mimi

Post Number: 268
Registered: 2-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i want them back on tuscan, too. yesterday, i was heading down the hill at the speed limit when a woman in a car raced up behind me, rode my bumper, honked, waved her hands, made faces, and then tried to pass me. i finally pulled to the right after a few blocks because she wasn't letting up and my effort to get my point across by slowing down (i know, passive aggressive) wasn't working. is there something else i could have done that i didn't think of? (keep in mind that i had a small child in the back so namecalling and rude gestures were out. )
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Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh

Post Number: 4733
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 7:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When that happens to me (too often!!!) I mutter "Jesus farking Christ what a freaking lunatic."

Then begins quite a round of questions from the peanut gallery.
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2721
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May I suggest that instead of posting these things publicly, we contact the police department regarding those well-speeded on roads. While I applaud Micheale's initial post in this thread, it does serve to warn off speeders who read MOL about Walton, Elmwood and other roads. As someone correctly pointed out in another thread, the way to really crack down on speeders is not unfortunately through "Please Slow Down" signs but through their pocketbooks. Just a thought. When and if I see a radar gun on Sommer Avenue, I will not divulge that fact; that's a fact.
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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 7771
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wendy:

Publicizing police with radar guns is a great way to get people to slow down on some of our more frequently traveled and/or dangerous roads. I think posting such information on MOL is a good thing.

Of course, if your primary objective is to increase revenue for the town (not sure how cost effective tickets are when you consider the amount of time needed to process the offense), then posting such information on MOL could be seen as a negative action.
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Bailey
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Username: Baileymac

Post Number: 348
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 8:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems to me that processing the tickets, and considering the costs of our busy courts to operate, I'd guess there's not much left for the town's benefit.

What seems a little crazy is that our insurance companies can benefit from the exact same offense. I'd much prefer our towns and state to benefit somehow, than the insurance companies.

Raise the fines, get rid of speeding points, I think you would solve a couple of problems. People would probably slow down if they knew the fine was, say 500.00 per offense, and in slowing down, they'd be driving more carefully, potentially reducing accidents.

Posting locations here on MOL isn't a bad idea. If people know there's a radar trap somewhere, they'll drive more carefully. What's more important, safer driving, or a few extra bucks for the municipality?
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2723
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joan, my point was that I didn't want people to slow down just to avoid getting a ticket or even worse speeding on a different street that was not known for being patrolled. I wish people would just slow down because it's the right thing to do. Unfortunately, I believe it's only when they get a ticket that they will be a little more cautious overall in all towns and all locations because of being hit with the summons/fine/points.

Bailey, you raise some good points. Any thought about how to implement?
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 8334
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dunno, Wendy. There were some hot spots we knew about growing up where we did not dare go 1 mile over the limit. To this day, drivers who travel I77 thru OH know that they are quite likely to get nabbed if they speed. Going thru Eastham and Wellfleet on the Cape, it's usually first time visitors who get the tickets on Rt. 6. Everyone else knows better.

I think being known as a "zero tolerance" spot works quite well. I don't care if people go the speed limit for the "right" or "wrong" reasons; the positive effect is the same. I would love it if people lived in fear of doing 26MPH thru town.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider


Post Number: 14970
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree mostly, greenetree. An acquaintance of mine got stopped in Princeton for going 29 in a 25 zone. Annoying. But I don't remember if he got a ticket. If not, there's not much to complain about. Then he got stopped two weeks later in the same place for going 26 (in a 25 zone). The officer said he was going too slowly. I guess he should have been going 27.5 mph.

I think people should stick to speed limits on local roads, but I think there ought to be a tiered system on limited-access highways, where some people earn the privilege of driving faster than others. I don't know how we would administer this. It's just a fantasy.
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy

Post Number: 2724
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must not be making myself clear. I'm all for people doing the speed limit regardless of motivation. I'm just saying that it sometimes takes getting a ticket or hearing of plenty of others who get tickets to change behavior. Posting the locations of speed-traps (which seems to be a good new behavior for MPD) may lessen the chance of tickets being issued which in turn may lessen the change in behavior.

The speeder doesn't have to get one to change his/her behavior but has to hear of others (the equivalent of Greenetree's "first time visitors") who have been nabbed.
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daylaborer
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Username: Upondaroof


Post Number: 814
Registered: 4-2003


Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I think people should stick to speed limits on local roads, but I think there ought to be a tiered system on limited-access highways, where some people earn the privilege of driving faster than others. I don't know how we would administer this. It's just a fantasy."

It's not a fantasy, its called entitlement!
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argon_smythe
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Username: Argon_smythe

Post Number: 854
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 3:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know how it would be administered, Tom, but I sure wish the guy in front of me was in a higher tier.

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