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las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2098
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:23 am: | 
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It was here yesterday, in my building. The staff knew me and made my iced venti green tea lemonade unsweetened before I even got to the counter. Not a word, no notice, and today: gone! No Starbucks. What am I supposed to do with myself?
In the lobby one of the security guards offered, "There's one on Barclay."
AS IF!!!
It's not about the caffeine and it's not about the taste, it's about the convenience of being able to pop downstairs in an instant for an iced or latte.
This is a very bad thing. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 765
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:36 am: |
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Sorry! Maybe the counter people were promised jobs at other locations and were told not to say anything, though I can't imagine why! |
Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 5957
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:41 am: |
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remarkable...one less Starbucks and someone noticed..it will be replaced by a Duane Reade, las (NYC's version of Maplewood's nail salons). |
Soparents
Supporter
Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2184
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:42 am: |
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las, i'm so sorry! We were only talking about this on Saturday and how with the construction it would be so easy if you could call down and have it waiting for you when you got there.
Yes, it is a bad thing..... and bad things shouldn't happen to nice people.... |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2099
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:52 am: |
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Thank you all for your support.
It does mean a lot.
I just can't understand how a Starbucks could be there one day and not the next. And I can't understand how I can find the time to post about it but not call the company. |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6453
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:54 am: |
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las are you going to be okay? Deep yoga breath! We are here for you! |
Joanne G
Citizen
Username: Joanne
Post Number: 362
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:59 am: |
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please excuse my ignorance but wouldn't a handy Gloria Jeans be nicer??? I prefer them to Starbucks
(Starbucks have only opened on Albury in the last year, and I find the coffee horrible. Gloria's on the other hand, is at least drinkable if you're for a chain-coffee - and they know me at all three local stores so I get good service. Hudsons will never get my business as they're rude, overpriced and smell revoltingly sour)
My preference would be for you to have our coffee truck near you - Kaz would fix your preferred beverage as soon as she heard you approach, and you'd hardly know she's there. Sadly Coffee Mamma is a one-off as far as I am aware... |
ess
Citizen
Username: Ess
Post Number: 2734
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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Las! Words cannot adequately describe my empathy for you.
I think this is the first time I have ever heard of a Starbucks closing.
The end is near. |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1660
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:12 am: |
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The people in the Middle East should have your problems. Sheesh. |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2076
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:20 am: |
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las - that's just terrible. I mean - I've seen many Starbucks appear out of nowhere, but disappear - I've never heard of such a thing. That's just wrong. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2100
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
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No, CFA, despite any hatred you may have for the people in the Middle East, this is not something to wish on anyone. Shame on you.
Joanne, if your coffee mama would set up in my lobby I would welcome her. It's all about the convenience. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2101
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:34 am: |
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Not to worry!
The're under construction and will reopen Saturday (I called).
For three days I can walk the 1.5 blocks to Barclay Street.
I'm drained. |
Matt Foley
Citizen
Username: Mattfoley
Post Number: 750
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:31 pm: |
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Could this be the end for that disgusting chain?
They support...
The slashing & burning of South American timber.
Illegal stoop labor
plundering overseas coffee plantations
armed militias in Central America
and I heard that their largest shareholder once clubbed a baby seal!
BOYCOTT Starbucks! |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1835
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 1:45 pm: |
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What in god's name is an "iced venti green tea lemonade unsweetened"? |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 10180
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:18 pm: |
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green tea with a twist of lemon over ice |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2088
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:23 pm: |
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nothing beats the blackberry green tea frapp........yummy |
Mayor McCheese
Supporter
Username: Mayor_mccheese
Post Number: 1838
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:37 pm: |
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What the hell is a frapp?
Do they make coffee there? You know regular coffee, with no added flavors or preservatives or fluff? |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2089
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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It's a Frappucino silly! A yummy blend of ice and all sorts of yummy flavors that adds up to a day's supply of fat and calories....all in one little container with a straw 
coffee???? hmmm...I think so, but not really sure....huh? I don't think I've ever gotten that there... |
Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 214
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:33 pm: |
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I think I know where las works!?
It's amazing, I once counted 5 Starbucks within 5 blocks of there. How do they not cannibalize each other?
What’s the business model?
I've never felt dumber than when I've ordered decaf at Starbucks. What's the point of taking out the second mortgage for decaf? |
red
Citizen
Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6458
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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So funny when I go to one of those stores and order a coffee. I always get a look from the person behind the counter as if they are saying "coffee? what in the •••• is coffee?" |
Dave
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 10181
Registered: 4-1997
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:51 pm: |
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Starbucks found it lost more business because of long lines than due to anything else. Hence, more Starbucks. |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2093
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:51 pm: |
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I brought a friend of mine from Florida into the city on her last visit and I had been remarking earlier about how I don't understand how all the Starbucks shops can stay in business - there's one on every street corner. I don't think she believed me until we were waiting on a street corner to cross she said "Now I know what you mean about Starbucks." We could see 3 of them while standing there - all within a 1 block radius.
I love Lewis Black who said he finally found the end of the earth. It was when he was in a Starbucks and looked across the street and saw another Starbucks. And, that's how he knew he reached the end of the earth. |
Bajou
Citizen
Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1188
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 3:57 pm: |
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Wouldn't buy coffe there. It's not good and costs three times the amount. |
Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 215
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 4:17 pm: |
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Leave it to Dave to know the answer to my question.
Good point too. I have left one Starbucks due to a long line and have walked the block to a less crowded Starbucks. They saw me coming.
They must minimize the incentive of store owners (if they have a franchise model..Dave?) to steal customers from other stores.
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Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 767
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 4:27 pm: |
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Mayor -
Yes they make 'regular' coffee there but it's double roasted and IMHO bitter as hell. Then they charge three times as much for the damn thing. |
Joanne G
Citizen
Username: Joanne
Post Number: 365
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 5:07 pm: |
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Good morning! So happy your tea will be back in a few days - I wouldn't have discovered Kaz except for the fact that she's right there where I drive by just before parking at the office. Now I can't get through a tough day without her!
Kaz is actually one of Australia's top barrista teachers, so we're lucky to have her. She's also a judge for tea and coffee competitions - making and tasting. I'm sure one of her 'babies' will eventually drift through your part of the world, although how we'll tell, I'm not sure.
Meantime, I'll make sure to buy a black spiced chai in your honour today - and sip it, not gulp it!! (and here you have to imagine Duncan's martini icon, because I forgot to copy it before starting to write the message...) |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2103
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:54 pm: |
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Ah, Joanne - Thank you, and good morning.
I had a really tough day at work today and needed my iced venti green tea lemonade unsweetened to get me through the afternoon, but they are doing construction on all four sides of my building (!) and I hate going out there with all the tourists and barricades so I suffered with twice filtered water. Not the same at all.
Tomorrow I shall make the 1.5 block journey to the Liberty Street *$ (the aforementioned Barclay Street location is three blocks away - Liberty Street is the closest one).
Andrew, maybe I'll see you there. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 15094
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 1:40 am: |
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There was an article in The Onion some time ago about a Starbucks that was opening in the men's room of another Starbucks.
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Joanne G
Citizen
Username: Joanne
Post Number: 372
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:47 am: |
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Las, it will look dorky but bring a small cooler with you and buy one or two extras to carry back to the office fridge. Then you won't need to go out into the hot again ... |
Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 216
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 11:49 am: |
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Las,
The Starbucks in the lobby of 1 Liberty Plaza? What time? (I probably already missed you.)
-Andy |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2107
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:27 pm: |
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That's the one, Andrew! P/l me if you want to meet on Friday.
Joanne, carrying a cooler isn't an issue (I actually do store my spare iced venti green tea lemonade unsweetened in the fridge every morning!), it's the condition of the world immediately outside my building.
They really are doing construction on all four sides -- the new state-of-the-art transportation hub being built downtown is going directly below my building! Stores across the street are being vacated for demolition and a modern sheethy monstrosity is going to be erected on Broadway.
And there are the tourists who continue to flock downtown in an effort to photograph one another in front of ground zero then enjoy slow constitutionals around the permieter of my building along the partially closed sidewalks while stopping to eye imitation purses being sold by vendors who always manage to set up shop no matter how little sidwalk is left.
This is just one little Starbucks in a beautiful old building and since they started blocking the sidewalks there are way fewer tourists which means easy in/easy out. I was really liking the way things were going.
They should have made an accommodation to get us through this week.
And if anyone has a problem with my rant then you should know: change is bad. Unexpected change is even worse. |
Joanne G
Citizen
Username: Joanne
Post Number: 378
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 4:04 am: |
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I totally understand the rant - was just thinking that if you could buy in bulk it would make the day easier to bear.
Our town of Albury is busy building its freeway bypass - internally, although everyone voted for an external bypass. (Don't ask - too complciated for today to explain what went on!!!) Anyway, for the next 2 to 3 years the northern chunk of our CBD is to be totally disrupted and bissected by massive roadworks at the same time as our southern link with the major national highway is equally cut off with the on/off ramps for the north-south bypass chunks. There are several expressive words in Yiddish!!!!
This means that most of us are driving in aimless circles trying to work out how to do our shopping as we have hopeless public transport that doesn't serve those who work in the middle of the CBD. We miss out lunch spots, our quick-bill places, our informal business meeting places etc etc.
Yep - I understand!
Oh well - am off for a weekend wedding - back on Sunday arvo! Be good, everyone! |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 4039
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:41 am: |
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I like Starbucks' hot chocolate, but I refuse to stand in a line of more than three people to order one. Same goes for coffee ice cream sodas at Cold Stone Creamery. I guess, in other words, I don't mind being ripped off if I don't have to wait very long. I'm a Type A moron...
-s.
BTW: I have dial-up, and often feel the same way about MOL. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2109
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:56 am: |
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I'm having a problem right now.
I haven't slept in days and the amount of caffeinne in an iced grande latte would be perfect to get me through the morning. A sqiurt of caramel would make it ideal.
In my old work life I'd head downstairs and be back before anyone knew it. Now? Well, I am yet again posting about my displacedness on MOL.
I've come to understand that you can't make sense of certain things in this world. But how a business in your lobby can make the unilateral decision to redecorate mid-week is beyond me.
ps: Soda, you'd have liked my *$ the past few weeks. With all the construction going on tourists have had diffifulty navigating from street to building so there hasn't been a line at all. You could be a placid moron with me here.
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Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7816
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 8:13 pm: |
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Las:
Try the Starbucks right by Pace. I think it is closer to you than the one on Liberty Street. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2117
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:02 pm: |
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Thanks, Joan. Due to the construction, however, Liberty street is closer as all building exits are closed except for Broadway.
I do thank you all for your concern and would like to update you: My Starbucks was open this morning. Got two iced venti green tea lemonades unsweetened (one for now, one for later) and all was right with the world.
They were closed because they had to install an oven. For heating bagels.
What a sick, sick world. |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1663
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:39 am: |
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How can you say "all was right with the world?" Do you realize there's a war in the Middle East or is your head stuck up your ••• or in your iced venti. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 803
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:50 am: |
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Uh, she was talking about her work world? This thread was spefically about her Starbucks, NOT the Middle East (there are several of those).
You might want to check out the thread (I think it's in the Virtual Cafe) about the 'Bus Uncle': Two Chinese Men on a Bus... |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2118
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:31 am: |
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Gosh, CFA - since you've nothing of value to contribute, kindly stay away from me.
For what it's worth this war you cite in the Middle East has been ongoing for five thousand years. I don't think my Starbucks fix has any relevance.
Good morning, Scully!
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LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2131
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:32 am: |
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They heat bagels at your Starbucks????????
CFA - This isn't Political Soapbox -- chill out (maybe you should try one of those icey drinks from Starbucks...it may help  ) |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1667
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:32 am: |
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Starbuck's is too yuppyish for me. I'm a Chock Ful O Nuts kinda person. |
ess
Citizen
Username: Ess
Post Number: 2809
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:35 am: |
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CFA, you might want to try getting some sleep instead of making snarky comments on an otherwise tongue-in-cheek thread.
Besides, if you knew anything at all about *$, you would realize that it is impossible to get one's head stuck in an iced venti anything. The iced venti vessel is simply too big. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8681
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:45 am: |
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Nope- Starbucks is not a franchise. All one big, happy owner. And, if you are not happy with service, you call the Corporate office or e-mail them and they send you a bunch of coupons for freebies. You can also get them in the stores if you tell the manager that you are unhappy with anything about your order/service.
Dave is right; I read an article awhile back about their urban business plan. You shouldn't have to walk more than 150-200 feet between Starbucks.
I broke the habit. Since I like really strong coffee but only do decaf and prefer soy, Starbucks was my only option for awhile. But then other places started popping up and I discovered Dunkin's Turbo Ice. I've never bothered with anything other than coffee products, tho.
When I'm in OH with my mom, I got to Starbucks a lot. She likes the double-whipped, mocha -whatever things and they have a gazillion calories. She'll drink a grande and then have a meal. Very handy when you are trying to fatten someone up.
BTW -Las, I think that you work in my old building! Across from City Hall Park and Century 21? |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2119
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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Interesting,Greenetree. If it is your old building, wonder why your TS, who escorts me to my office approx. once every two weeks, has never said oh, Greenetree used to work here?
Ess, I agree that you can't get your head stuck in one of those iced venti cups, but I once got my ••• stuck in one. It was worse than being on the Java coast during last week's tsunami (670+ dead/missing). And worse than being in Taiwan during their current typhoon (600+ dead). It was even worse than being a child soldier (250,000 worldwide). Yet all the while, as the emergency crews were prying my ••• out of the venti cup, I kept thinking, Thank the good lord CFA crossed my path to remind me to be thankful I am not in the Middle East (approx 450 (391 in Lebanon)). |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8683
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 11:15 am: |
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Las - it wouldn't be her way. You could cut off her arm and be standing there spurting blood. She'd grab the nearby leaves of a gladiolus plant and tie it off, thus saving your life. She wouldn't bother to say "I learned this when Greenetree cut off her foot gardening a few years back and the nearest thing was a bunch of gladiolus leaves."
Either that or it's not the same building.
If you ever just have to tell someone something or you will burst but you have been sworn to secrecy or don't want anyone to know, tell TS. She doesn't pass anything along. Not even to me. She's the world's hugest anti-gossip. It's really annoying.
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CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1670
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:19 pm: |
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Las...you probably couldn't even get your ••• into a cup. The opening isn't that large.
Ess....thanks for your concern, but I get plenty of sleep. Maybe you should worry about your own remarks. I thought a message board is a forum to make remarks, no? As I've said a gazillion times, if you don't like what I have to say, ignore it. Ask AJC, it works great. |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2823
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:49 pm: |
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Yes CFA. This message board is certainly a forum to make remarks, which you did and to which others cogently responded. However where you just crossed the line was in telling a woman that her butt is big. If that's not a personal attack, well I don't know what is. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 825
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:25 pm: |
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It's a personal attack. The threads are turning MEAN lately! |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1671
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 5:06 am: |
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Mean? You should have been around back in 97 and 98 if you wanted to see mean. If Dave feels it's a personal attack, trust me, I'll be bounced. It wouldn't be the first time. |
Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 830
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:46 am: |
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Gracious! Thank goodness I WASN'T around in those bad old days. Is that when they decided to have the Soapboxes (to quarantine the mean stuff?).
I just don't understand why you don't consider making fun of someones body as personal.
And, for that matter, why making fun of somebody while there's a war going on in the Middle East (for starters) is OK but talking about coffee isn't? |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1672
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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I've had enough fun for one week. Enjoy the rest of the thread. |
Andrew Zorn
Citizen
Username: Andrewzorn
Post Number: 217
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 1:49 pm: |
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Las,
Sorry I didn't get back to you, I was out of town. Are you speaking of the one in the first floor of the building behind the Millennium Hotel? That's between Liberty and Barclay.
Did you know about the one inside the lobby at 100 Church. No exterior presence at all, you have to know it's there. |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 7868
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:59 pm: |
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The Starbucks I was referring to is at the corner of Beekman and Park Row, directly across the narrow part of City Hall Park from what I assume is your office building at the corner of Broadway and Barclay. The two Starbucks are virtually across the park from each other. You could see the facade of one from the other if the trees were shorter. |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2125
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 2:21 am: |
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Oh, gosh, I know of each Starbucks in the above two posts.
Andrew, I work in the building that backs up to the Millenium hotel. That's my Starbucks, and although the address is technically on Broadway, the public entrance is on Day Street near Church.
The one at Liberty is in the lobby; that building houses one of the exchanges (and if I ever ventured outside my builing it would be my backup 'bucks).
I do know the location inside 100 Church - they have an Estee Lauder company store in that building.
Joan, your two locations ar a bit further for a quick break. It's funny - I rarely venture up those three blocks, and to me they are in a completely different neighborhood!
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Scully
Citizen
Username: Scully
Post Number: 841
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 4:04 am: |
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las! When I worked for Dun & Bradstreet I spent time at 99 Church Street! |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2127
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:51 am: |
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Downtown misses you, Scully! |
ess
Citizen
Username: Ess
Post Number: 2854
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:52 am: |
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Hello!! Las, my dear -- you know of an Estee Lauder company store not far from you and you haven't uttered a word? I am wounded. Wounded, I say!! |
las
Citizen
Username: Las
Post Number: 2129
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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I'm sorry - I'm having difficulty hearing you, Ess.
Hello?
You still there? |
LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 2172
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
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Hey ess.....I have an Estee Lauder company store RIGHT INSIDE MY BUILDING.... |
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