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Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1119
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:10 pm: | 
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If you commute to NY and read the NY Post you have read the saga of Christie's husband, Peter Cook, 47, being alledged to having an affair with a now 19 year old girl (17 when he met her). Old Pete not only hired her for his architectural firm, bit also fronted her money for a new Nissan Maxima, and monthly payments of $1,000 and over. They had a "sexual relationship" apparently for about a year, according to Post reports.The girl claims she was "naive".
Her attorneys seem to plan to sue old Peter for sexual harrassment, which seems particularly appealing since he seems to have some deep pockets.
Some questions:
I have always admitted that women are smarter than men. Would you say, given the financial benefits that this person received that she might be better classified as a "mistress" than a sympathetically mislead young woman? Are women 18-19 years old today really very naive? The person in question wants a singing career, which requires publicity. Who took advantage of who here?
Given her multiple divorces, is Christie a sympathetic figure here, or does it show she is too high maintanance? Is this what drove "the piano man" to drink?
How can some of the most desirable women on earth according to our media still find that their men cheat on them ? ( think Berry and Benet). Are men just pure dogs without feeling and emotional connection?
I await your responses.
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Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 2983
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:22 pm: |
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I think it's bull shyt to pretend the young woman was naive. I get so sick of that one in the work place, at college etc. Mostly a load of ka-ka. For me, I think the harrassment lawsuit is crap.
I do think the dude's a jack asc with a past problem. Couldn't say why she married him. Joel had booze issues before her, and that too is crap.
Couldn't tell you why some men cat around, but it seems to have more to do with availability, their superficiality than anything to do with the attractiveness of their wives. So, yeah, some men are dogs.
A couple of divorces is not that big a deal these days, regardless of your looks/station. I'm not hot stuff, and I'm on my third marriage at 52 -- just like Christie! Resemblance ends there... |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8515
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:56 pm: |
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"Down Low" is not used in the appropriate context here.... |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 2076
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:56 pm: |
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"Facts"
Pssst - "the downlow" doesn't apply when talking about heterosexual dalliances.
Your awkward attempts to talk "street" reminds of the scene in "Airplane!" where the white stewardess (I mean "flight attendent") tells the confused passenger that she speaks, "Fluent Jive"
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8516
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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Hey Lydia - great minds.....! |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 2077
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 7:58 pm: |
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Greenetree -
Jinx! |
Lydia
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Username: Lydial
Post Number: 2078
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:00 pm: |
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1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, - you SO owe me a Coke™! |
doulamomma
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Username: Doulamomma
Post Number: 1616
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:03 pm: |
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yes - I was expecting a different story when opeing this thread.... |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 4103
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:20 pm: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down-low |
Lucy
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Username: Lucy
Post Number: 4811
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:34 pm: |
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Her husband Peter is from West Orange, New Jersey. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1122
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:25 pm: |
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Thank you all for your corrections. Yes I know the general application of "downlow" is to homosexual dalliances, but my extreme liberal sensitivities prevented me from attempting to use another term that would label her lower-middle class, as I believe people are people.
How about EXTREME downtown girl? |
Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1217
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:38 pm: |
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I have never understood why it would be called sexual harrassment when there is continuing sex.
We had a couple of cases at my old job and they were totally ridicilous. The girls tried to start affairs with the higher up guys and if they guys had sense and didn't go for it then the girls made •••• up. It made all the guys treat us regular girls like we were potential lawsuits. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1125
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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Bajou-
As related to me the glass ceiling is a beeytch.
On this topic I really think an 18- 19 year old today is like a 25 year old ten-fifteen years ago. In short, this girl made a deliberate choice based on what this clown appeared to have to offer her. He didn't lie about being married and having kids. Good luck to her lawyers shaking the tree for some money.
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Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1223
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 10:56 pm: |
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FvF: Being viewed as a threat to somebodies career is not a glass ceiling. I truly believe that these ridiculous lawsuits have set females back in the work environment. There is no excuse for sleeping with the boss. Even if your job is on the line. If you didn't want it then you wouldn't have done it. There are plenty of true cases of sexual harrassment and I happen to know of a bad case in my circle of friends. She had to deal with crap you wouldn't believe and she finally got the suckers for it but she would have rather died than slept with one of them and hats of to her. She had to go through hell and it didn't really pay off. The good old saying: "Don't poop were you eat" holds true. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1129
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 7:09 am: |
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I have been advised by my popular culture expert that it IS possible to use the "downlow girl" as "downlow" has broader application to any sneaky and hidden behavior. This has been a public service announcement. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1712
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 8:52 am: |
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fvf - Maybe your not a parent.
Quote:On this topic I really think an 18- 19 year old today is like a 25 year old ten-fifteen years ago
I guarantee you that an 18 year old is NOT at all like a 25 year old at any time.
I disagree with the posters who only want to connect down low with homosexuality. The expression is also commonly used to mean be discreet with this information. Both meanings are perfectly true and mean what they mean in context. fvf used the downlow appropriately (and cleverly given Billy Joels homage song) since Mr. Cook was supposedly having discreet afairs.
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Chris Prenovost
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Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 1025
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:22 am: |
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Some men are just dogs and will fool around no matter what their wives do at home.
But in most cases, show me an unfaithful husband, and I will show you a wife who is not taking care of business.
Not to be a sexist here, but one of the reasons men marry women is to have a regular sexual partner. You meet a woman, she's GIB, you get married, and her sex drive gradually vanishes like the WMD's in Iraq. The husband feels a little cheated, and will have a strong inclination to fool around.
But if the wife is still the woman he married, what incentive does he have to be unfaithful? Endanger his marriage, his children, for sex? Not if the wife still has her mojo. |
tjohn
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Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4529
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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Amazing. You just can't make that stuff up.
But, there is a wise old saying:
"Men marry women hoping they won't change. Women marry men hoping they will." |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8533
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:07 am: |
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Chris - the jokes belong on the "Women in the Workplace" thread. |
Bajou
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Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1232
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:37 am: |
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Men don't have affairs cause they "are not getting any" at home. Men have affairs because they get bored with what they have at home and if some chickie pays two cents attention to them they feel like they invented passion. Show me a man who thinks he is not getting enough from his wife and I show you a wife who is bored out of her mind because her man hasn't spent 10 minutes trying to come up with a way to spice up their s*x life.
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Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 2985
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:58 am: |
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And then there's this kind of husband (which could also be sung to a wife with a few changes)
Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
Baby, fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, girl,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Don’t I let you wash the car on sunday ?
Don’t I warn you when you’re getting fat ?
Hey, fatso!
Ain’t I gonna take you fishing some day ?
Well, a man can’t love a woman more than that.
Ain’t I always nice to your kid sister,
Don’t I take her driving every night ?
So sit here at my feet because I like you when you’re sweet
And you know that it ain’t feminine to fight.
Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
Fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, woman,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Yeah, come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
- Sheldon Shilverstein
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Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1130
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 1:43 pm: |
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Hoops-
I think a 19 year old is more worldly and sophisticated these days when it comes to sexual matters than they were say, ten years ago. I didn't say the emotions were on par with a 25 year old's, but you know, there are a lot of 25 year olds that are kind of immature.
Frankly, IMHO this young woman had an ego trip that she was desired by this guy who was married to Christie Brinkley. The car, gifts, and money bespeak "mistress" to me. As for this schmuck, he probably needed the adoration and puppy dog love stuff because his wife didn't give him that.
Still I can't conceive of anyone cheating on Hallie Berry. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1715
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |
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Kind of makes you wonder about David Justice and Eric Benet.
Actually, in my opinion, infidelity is rarely the fault of the woman.
What you just said, I swear I remember people saying the exact same things about 19 year olds 10 and even 20 years ago.
In this era of Aids sophistication is a necessity, but I dont think women of today are any more sexually active then the woman of say the 60's and 70's. |
Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1137
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 4:00 pm: |
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Hoops-
If you know a number of teachers, high school and college level, you might hear about the seductive behavior they claim they encounter from teenage women today, and that it is greater than they experienced in the past.
Also don't forget that kids today view oral sex as non-sex, just like Bill Clinton was claimed to do. |
Glock 17
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Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1526
Registered: 7-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 4:02 pm: |
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"I have always admitted that women are smarter than men."
That is the dumbest crud I've ever heard. |
Hoops
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Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1719
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 4:07 pm: |
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fvf - Whatever you say. I am sure you have the studies that back up these anecdotal claims.
as Billy Joel said - "We didnt start the fire".
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Factvsfiction
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Username: Factvsfiction
Post Number: 1143
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 6:02 pm: |
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Glock 17-
You also think Israel is "in the wrong"  .
Hoops-
I like this "whatever you say" business, keep it up.
One question for the men out there:
Would you rather date Christie or the "naive, young lady who was taken advantage of"? |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 3615
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:04 pm: |
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Even in her 50's, Christie's still pretty hot. |
Elaine Harris
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Username: Elaineharris
Post Number: 221
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:31 am: |
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This story reminds me of a song from a Broadway show: "When the idle poor become the idle rich, you won't know just who is who or which is which..."
Peter Cook must be the dumbest man in the world, in a field of tough competition.
By the way, does anyone else out there know the show that song came from? |
Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising
Post Number: 1803
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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Finian's Rainbow Soundtrack Lyrics
Song: When the Idle Poor Become the Idle Rich
When de idle poor
Become the idle rich
You'll never know
just who is who
or who is witch.
Won't it be rich
Whenever wants poor relatives,
becomes a "Rockefellative",
and pans no longer itch
What a switch!
Female Ensemble-
When beyond my permine
And plastic team
How would we do determin
Who's who under me?
Male Ensemble-
And when all your neighbours
are upper class
- You won't know your 'georges'
from your 'astors'.
Sharon-
Let's toast a day
The day we drink that drinkin' up
But with a little pinkie up.
Company- The day on witch
The idle poor
Become the idle rich
Sharon-
When a rich man doesn't want to work
He's a bon vivant.
Company-
Yes, he's a bom vivant.
Sharon-
But when a poor man doesn't want to work,
He's a laughter, he's a lounger
he's a lazier good for nothing
Company-
He's a jerk!
Sharon-
When a rich man looses on a horse
Oh, isn't it disport!
Company-
Oh, isn't it disport!
Sharon-
When a poor man looses on a horse
He's a gambler, he's a spender
He's a low life, he's a reason for divorce!
When a rich man chases after dames
He's a man about town,
A man about town.
But when a poor man chases after dames
He's a bounder, he's a rounder
He's a rotter, and a lot of dirty names!
Company-
You'll never know
just who is witch.
When de idle poor
Become the idle rich.
Sharon-
When de idle poor
Become the idle rich
Company-
When de idle poor
Become the idle rich
You'll never know
just who is who
or who is witch.
Sharon-
No one will see
The Irish or the Slavonian
'cause when you're on Park Avenue
Cornelius and Mike
Look alike
Female Ensemble-
When poor tweedle Doe
This rich tweedle Dee
Company-
This discrimination will no longer be.
Male Ensemble-
When we leave undone
and out of the nuts
Sharon-
You won't know your banker.
from your but...ler.
Let's make the switch.
We just a few a'newer 'n' this
We'll ride this incongruityies
With clothes from Ava Crombing Fitch
Female Ensemble I-
Wheeeeeeeeeen de idle poor
Female Ensemble II-
Wheeeeeeen become the
Male Ensemble-
Wheeeeeeeen idle rich
Company-
When de idle poor
Become the idle rich |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4255
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:01 am: |
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Doesn't seem to me this girl is all too broken up by the supposed "harrassment," as she seems to have no problem going on television any chance she gets, to talk about how "bored" he was, and how he wished he had met her when he was younger, and on and on and on. I wonder when her lawyers might decide to tell her to shut up.
As for him, he's just an idiot. To suggest he went looking elsewhere because he "wasn't getting any" at home is just plain sexist bulldinky. And I completely agree with Cyn and Bajou here. It's a two way street, and I'm sure they're are plenty of men who aren't holding up their end of the bargain either.
However, I do believe that, regardless of her sexual savvy, a 19-year-old (male or female) doesn't always have the maturity to make the best decisions. Remember yourself at 19? I do! Once again, he was way older and really should have known better. Just another example of a man keeping his brain in a part of his anatomy that is not the "head" on his shoulders! |
Elaine Harris
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Username: Elaineharris
Post Number: 222
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:12 am: |
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Finian's Rainbow.
Phenixrising gets the prize!!!! Can you also get the music to go with it? Did you know this show, too, or did you google it or something?
Yesterday's Post showed that Cook wants to be forgiven, and taken back. What are the odds?
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