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C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille
Post Number: 2705
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:12 am: | 
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Yesterday I'm at the pool snack area. Picked up my order and found an empty table while waiting for a friend whose order took longer. Mother and older/bigger toddler boy wander near, she clutching container of grapes. She asks if they can share the table. I say sure. Still waiting for friend. Mom starts feeding the kid. Dad(?) joins them but neither adult eats. ? because he has virtually no interaction with the kid who is squirmy. My friend arrives. We start eating and talking. Next thing I know I'm putting a french fry in my mouth while looking close up at this little boy's privates. Eww, I'm eating! Mom has apparently decided to change him because there she is, pulling his pants down while he stands on the bench. Slow process. Great height for the table view! I look at the mom and try to make eye contact. No luck. Meanwhile the guy is just watching the scene, not volunteering to take the kid to the men's locker area. And she's not even considering taking the kid into the women's. Nope. The food table is just fine, thank you very much! I clear my throat. Nothing. Finally I say, "Excuse me - I'd like to suggest that you take your son somewhere away from where people are eating when you need to change him." She looked surprised, mumbled something, and the 3 of them left. What???!!!
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2139
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:20 am: |
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Bataille!
Good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What jerk would think of sitting at your table in a coffee shop and pulling off the kid's diaper to shift out a load? Why should a picnic table at the pool be any different?????? |
Pippi
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Username: Pippi
Post Number: 2640
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:23 am: |
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WOW
what are people thinking????
good for you for speaking up.
I am so tired of people thinking they live in their own little world...
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Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2140
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |
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They can live in their own little world as long as they want to, but they can't change their kids' sh--ty diapers in mine. |
cody
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Username: Cody
Post Number: 1069
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 12:36 pm: |
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Just another example of social myopia!
I wouldn't change my OWN kid's diaper at the table while we were eating, never mind intruding on someone else's table to do it. But somehow, I'm not surprised that someone thought it was OK to do this. |
John Caffrey
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Username: Jerseyjack
Post Number: 383
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 1:04 pm: |
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When she left the pool, was it in a black Tahoe? Was she driving real fast? |
Bob K
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 12203
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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Cathy, good for you!!! There are limits.
There was an interesting "companion" thread a couple of weeks back about air travel with small kids. A lot of parents thought it was AOK to change the kids on a seat.
How are the two different? |
Carla
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Username: Elbowroom
Post Number: 103
Registered: 9-2005
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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Yes she shouldn't have done that. Yes you did the right thing.
It probably wasn't a poopy diaper since if you've ever changed one it's hard to do while the child is standing up. She should have at least taken him off the table and shielded you from his view. It wouldn't be a bad thing if she did in it a less populated public area away from the other wieners.
It would have been real funny if you said something like. "I hope his daddy is bigger than that!" |
ess
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Username: Ess
Post Number: 2772
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 1:17 pm: |
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Cathy, good for you for speaking up!
It was rude of the mother on two fronts. One, of course, was that she did it at a table designed for eating in front of others who were using said table for said purpose. Two, she showed absolutely no regard nor respect for her own child. He's a person, too, dammit, and doesn't need to be standing naked in the snack area at the pool.
Pinheads! |
CLK
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Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 2361
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 2:19 pm: |
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Well, at least that explains why the pool personnel would be wanting to use Comet or whatever on the tables (ref another thread about that ... ). I sure hope they're disinfecting if that kind of thing goes on routinely.
I read on a knitting forum recently about a woman who was working on a quilt during a craft show. She was sewing, quilting right there, and the quilt was full of pins etc. Anyway this woman comes along, and without asking plops her baby down on the quilt and proceeds to remove baby's diaper.
Quilting-lady freaks. Not only is a poopy diaper being opened on her artwork, but there are pins everywhere and the baby was at some risk for injury.
It is hard to imagine what some people use for brains, honestly. |
Pippi
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Username: Pippi
Post Number: 2646
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 2:42 pm: |
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NO she DIDN'T
OMG
that is sooooooo sad and pathetic.
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MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4223
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 3:06 pm: |
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Very rude, self-centered, ignorant and inconsiderate. When I get my little ones nakey at the pool it's always off in the back, away from most folks, except parents of other little ones who are probably getting nakey as well. And I do my best to keep them covered with a towel or something. I know not everyone thinks my child's "peepee" is a cute as I think it is!
Re: changing a diaper on a plane: where else would you change a child on the plane, if not on the seat? Personally, on the rare occassion that I fly, one diaper usually lasts for the entire trip. Should there be a circumstance that would require me to have to change the child, I couldn't very well do it in the airplane restroom. There's barely enough room for your average sized adult to stand up and turn around in there. |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5715
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 3:43 pm: |
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I would have said something sooner. How rude of her. You were kind enough to share your table with her child and her. Did she even ask if you minded her 'husband' joined them? |
Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 6008
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 4:03 pm: |
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It is hard to imagine what some people use for brains, honestly.
the answer is in the diaper.
this thread is like a cross between the Bathroom Rant thread and the Nudism thread.
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 1705
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 6:08 pm: |
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BobK, what Meandtheboys says about the airplane situation...occasionally a change at the seat is the only option in a bad situation (as much as we always tried to avoid it).
At the pool, there are definitely always better options than the table. |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6516
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 7:24 pm: |
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There is a limited amounted of tables at the pool, tables are going to be shared. To change a diaper is just purely rude and disgusting. Good for you to say something.
On a plane there are changing tables in the bathrooms. They are small, but it can be done! |
Innisowen
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Username: Innisowen
Post Number: 2141
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 8:57 pm: |
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We all agree about this situation. I hope that the parent who was the subject of Bataille's first post up above is reading this thread and squirming a bit. |
pcs81632
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Username: Pcs81632
Post Number: 77
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:25 pm: |
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Some people are inconsiderate morons, and will be the first to go when the revolution comes.
The poor kid! If she makes him drop trou at the Maplewood Pool, I'm sure he'll think it's OK to expose himself in similar circumstances when he gets older.
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tom
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Username: Tom
Post Number: 5311
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:42 pm: |
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Is there any post-diaper-era parent reading this who hasn't had the experience of the little one sending an arc of urine into the air while being changed? Not like there's any reason why it couldn't happen at the table. |
Gregor Samsa
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Username: Oldsctls67
Post Number: 567
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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I've changed my son in an airplane restroom before..it's a little uncomfortable, but do-able. I would NEVER dream of doing it at my seat if at all possible...ewwwwwwww |
Virtual It Girl
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Username: Shh
Post Number: 4831
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:54 am: |
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You know what, more than being rude and inconsiderate, it was absolute laziness on the part of both parents. Being a parent is a lot of work as many of us know, and sometimes you don't have the energy to pick your butt up to change your child in the proper place. If the mom was too tired to move her son into the benches in the women's locker room to change him, the husband should have offered to take the child to the men's room. Team work... |
Jersey_Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 1472
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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South Orange pool diaper changing naked boy confession:
We always change from swim diaper to regular at the end of the pool day, so technically this is not a "dirty" diaper, unless poop has occured. This change happens on our blanket and away from the pool area.
The other day, J.B. Jr. (2 1/2) jumps up before we get him into the regular diaper and starts to run around bottomless. He ran over to the edge of the grass where there is a bed of English Ivy and yells, "I'm going into the wild!"
He continued to streak while we laughed. He was soon wrangled back into a diaper and shorts, but I hope no one was offended by his "back to nature" moment.
I thought naked kids at the pool was okay. Agreed about diapers and food not mixing. Don't sh*t where you eat.
J.B. |
red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6526
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 5:35 pm: |
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JB--that is a cute story!! |
Jersey_Boy
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Username: Jersey_boy
Post Number: 1474
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 7:46 pm: |
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Thanks.
Did I ruin the Soapbox Section with cuteness?
J.B. |
joel dranove
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Username: Jdranove
Post Number: 772
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 8:29 pm: |
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When I was a public defender, long, long ago, and far, far away, in Brooklyn, I had a young mom client, who brought her baby to court.
Her name was called out.
I went to defense counsel's table.
She didn't.
Her name was called again.
She stood up, with her baby, bare bottom facing the judge, and diaper in her hands.
Justice was not blind that day.
The case was adjourned.
jd |
Soparents
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Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2325
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 8:33 pm: |
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red
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6533
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 8:46 pm: |
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Valley_girl
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Username: Valley_girl
Post Number: 123
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 9:20 pm: |
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I was in a restaurant this afternoon, and the kid at the table behind us was screeching. Mom was trying to placate him. Dad says, Ah, let him scream. Luckily Mom was smarter than Dad. Even if she did have a lapse in judgment when she chose him. |
Mummite
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Username: Mummite
Post Number: 289
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 10:23 pm: |
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There are hundreds of rules at the pool I'm sure this broke one of them.
I do agree that the table height view on a shared table was very wrong. She should have moved away or could have shielded him from view with a stroller or towel if she couldn't go to the locker area - was she perhaps watching another child in the pool?
If the mother had seen others change their children by the pool she may have figured it was the normal procedure there. There are little kids "getting back to nature" in that area everyday.
As far as airplanes go - there's no excuse changing on a seat - I've changed a baby in one of those restrooms with my other toddler in with us too. Its possible! |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 4190
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 3:00 am: |
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J.B. Junior kracKed me up, tell him Monster says hello, if he remembers me. |
Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider
Post Number: 15126
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 4:10 pm: |
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Hank said: this thread is like a cross between the Bathroom Rant thread and the Nudism thread.
Not at all, to me. Nudists go nude in designated times and places. What's to rant about? Cathy's story is about using a totally inappropriate time and place.
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Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo
Post Number: 76
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Changing a babe's diaper on a plane is tough. Ya gotta make the hike to the lavatory and pull down the changing table.
Once, we were on a bus with a newborn en route to Germany. Our kid took the biggest shat ever. Thank goodness it was winter and we just covered her up with 2 blankets to keep the smell down. It was rugged. Thank goodness she was asleep. There was no bathroom on the bus.
Maybe the said perp was from another country and didn't know better. Hopefully, she'll never do it again.
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014
Post Number: 1718
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:14 pm: |
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If there is a changing table...not all bathrooms in all planes are so equiped, and balancing the child on the toilet lid while getting supplies is really ugly... |
Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo
Post Number: 79
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:20 pm: |
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I've never heard of a plane not having a changing table. You may not have noticed it as you have to pull it down out of the wall. I think it's a law that all carriers must be equipped with one. I've never experienced being on a plane without a changing table. |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3615
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:41 pm: |
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Having flown on several occasions recently, I can tell you that not all planes have lavatories equipped with changing tables and, if they don't, it really isn't possible to change a diaper in that itty bitty space. None of them had them when my kids were in diapers and there really wasn't much choice but to do it at the seat in that case. |
Psychomom
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Username: Psychomom
Post Number: 421
Registered: 5-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:07 pm: |
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"let em yell" I don't think so!
Went out to eat last night to celebrate our wedding anniversary...went to a lovely place in Clinton outdoor dining along the water. When all of a sudden the kid at another table has a major meltdown, screaming, yelling and turning over chairs...luckily the dad stepped up to the plate (kudos to him) and removed the little darling...the mom was embarrassed and apologetic and I felt bad for her. They wound up taking their dinner to go.
At least there was no diapering involved! |
Seagull
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Username: Seagull
Post Number: 149
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:22 pm: |
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Another thing that bothers me at the pool is parents who let their toddlers wear just the swimmy disposable diapers- no bathing suit over them. I know it shouldn't matter to me, but it just seems trashy. Throw a pair of shorts on the kid! |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 5743
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 4:58 pm: |
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I saw a wman this afternon walking near the park with three children of different ages. One, about three or so had nothing but a diaper, socks and sneakers on, the second a little older shorts no short, with sneakers and socks. The third was in between the two. Just a pair of short shorts.
I felt like yelling "Put some closes on the childrn" |
MeAndTheBoys
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Username: Meandtheboys
Post Number: 4252
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:27 am: |
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Right there with ya, Seagull. My kids always have swim trunks over the swim diaper (even up here in the boonies where no one is around to see us). I don't walk around in my underpants, so why should my kid run around in just a diaper, whether it be a regular diaper or a swim diaper. |
Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo
Post Number: 81
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:07 am: |
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I don't have a problem with the swim diapers, sans trunks. They are just babies. What is so offensive about Elmo? |
Seagull
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Username: Seagull
Post Number: 150
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 12:42 pm: |
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I think Me& hit it on the head with the diapers being equivalent to running around in their underwear. You can get a cheap pair of swim trunks at MilkMoney, or even Walmart. If you can afford a membership at a community pool, you can certainly spring for a pair of shorts. If not, let the child have fun in the sprinkler in the privacy of your own yard. |
Tuxedo
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Username: Tuxedo
Post Number: 84
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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Doesn't bother me a bit. |
ina
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Username: Ina
Post Number: 387
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 - 2:59 pm: |
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My background is German, and the philosophy for dressing kids in hot weather is 'not one stitch more than necessary.' In Germany this translates to young children running around naked at beaches and in public parks. I was one of those 'trashy' moms who put ONLY a swim diaper on my kid when she was tiny  . |
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