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Parkbench87
Citizen Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4750 Registered: 7-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:46 am: |
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Since this seems to be the hot topic lately - I want to get your opinions. What do you think about a woman working a full time job? Do you think it is her right or do you think she should stay home and let her husband be the sole bread winner? |
   
buzzsaw
Citizen Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 5323 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:52 am: |
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Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1457 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:59 am: |
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I say let 'em work. But if women really want equal rights, they need to stop accepting special treatement. |
   
mjh
Supporter Username: Mjh
Post Number: 694 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |
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As long as they don't expect to get paid as much as men, and as long as they don't whine, I think it's just great. Oh, and no bossy women allowed. |
   
buzzsaw
Citizen Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 5325 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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Glock - is that a joke? (say yes) |
   
Ceidefields
Citizen Username: Ceidefields
Post Number: 43 Registered: 7-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:14 pm: |
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Let's be realistic about the situation. Given the house prices in any decent neighborhood and the costs of living in general, I think staying at home is really only an option for the better off amongst us. The rest of us need two incomes to keep afloat. And Glock 17, what special treatment? I'm a working mom and I've never encountered special treatment in the workplace in my life. Oh yeah, unless you count the 40% pay cut my employer forced on me after my son was born and I could no longer work a 16 hour day and had to cut back to a ten hour day. That was special treatment. |
   
ken (the other one)
Citizen Username: Ken
Post Number: 424 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |
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If I was married, I would be more than happy to have my wife work full time and I can be Mr. Mom and raise the kids. That, if I was married... Ken |
   
Hoops
Citizen Username: Hoops
Post Number: 1692 Registered: 10-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |
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answering this question could get plenty of men here is big trouble with their spouses. |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8410 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:38 pm: |
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I've been looking for a husband to support me for years. I haven't yet found a guy whom TS would accept, tho. This working thing sucks. I'm not as smart as the men around here and I'm tired of having to work twice as hard to prove myself. When I meet Mr. Right (and he must be a Doctor, Lawyer or Investment Banker) I might work a fun little job so that I can have some Money of My Own and Feel Worthwhile. Excuse me now, Wally and the Beaver are home and I have to fix their lunch.... |
   
Glock 17
Citizen Username: Glock17
Post Number: 1460 Registered: 7-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:16 pm: |
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No, not a joke. A women could easily say a co worker groped her when he never did it, take it to court, and win with absolutely no evidence. You can't flip that situation around. |
   
blackcat
Citizen Username: Blackcat
Post Number: 665 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:23 pm: |
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And if they're not female they can say its a racial, age or ethinic thing, right? Duh... Man, are people bored today?
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crossroads
Citizen Username: Crossroads
Post Number: 152 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:25 pm: |
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My wife has been a PROUD stay at home Mom for 23 years. It worked out well and now that the kids are off to college she's contemplating stepping down to a day job. |
   
Chris Prenovost
Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 1011 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:40 pm: |
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If the woman can bring home the bacon, by all means let her do so. But if BOTH parents work outside the home, be prepared for some serious issues down the road with the kids. |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1125 Registered: 2-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:42 pm: |
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What a stupid question! Why would you think that it is your decision (or why ask for our input) to make. There is only one person who deceides if they go to work or stay at home. I think the average great "bringing home the bacon all by myself" guy should sit down and calculate what he would pay for a cook, a cleaner, a personal secretary, a personal shopper and a nanny. When you covered these salaries then you really are a single provider. Frankly this might sound bitter but I would tell every young mother..stay home for a year but then go back to work...even if its only part time. Your husband can become unable to work or leave you or pass away and then you suddenly will be the single provider for your family. I have seen this and once you are out of the work force for 5 years you can forget coming back in at anywhere close to the money you were making. Why don't we worry about all the lazy assed guys who walk out on their families and do not pay their fair share. There are thousands of single women out there that have to support their families all by themselves with no other half gretting them at the door with dinner ready and the laundry done. The only people that can say they bring home the bacon by themsleves are single parents. Glock: What makes you think that most girls would make that up?? Plus to use one of my favorite posters favorite word. Grope my As* pal and se*ual harrassment charges will be your smallest problem! The american economy would collapse if there were no female workers! |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1126 Registered: 2-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:44 pm: |
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OOOHHHH sorry that was a rant and a half.... Note to self: Check your hormon levels... |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8413 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |
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You mean this thread isn't meant as a joke? There's no way that this is a serious question. Besides, banning women from the workplace won't stop men from being falsely accused of sexual harrassment. Some guy could say that you tried to grab his wanker while he was taking a piss in the men's room. Clearly the only answer is that no one should have any coworkers. It would certainly make the company holiday party much cheaper. |
   
Parkbench87
Citizen Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 4765 Registered: 7-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 2:40 pm: |
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Greentree, I meant is as a joke (see breastfeeding thread). I guess the heat is getting to everyone  |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8418 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:20 pm: |
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With your usual posting style, I thought so. The responses are quite telling..... The next one should be "Sexual Harrassment in the Workplace".  |
   
buzzsaw
Citizen Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 5329 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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Don't worry - Glock's tin foil hat is in the mail.
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red
Citizen Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6434 Registered: 2-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:26 pm: |
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women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen at all times! |
   
argon_smythe
Citizen Username: Argon_smythe
Post Number: 861 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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Women in the workplace is no joke, Parkbench87. For shame! Now women voting, now there's a joke! Especially security soccer moms who drive big SUVs too fast down our tree lined streets!!!
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Lizziecat
Citizen Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 1328 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:29 pm: |
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I thought this was an issue that we decided back in the '60s. Women work. Men work. Equal pay for equal work. Both parents should take care of the children. Both spouses (spice?) should take care of their home. What's so hard? |
   
combustion
Citizen Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 252 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:53 pm: |
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I don't think women should be in the workplace. Now, if I could only convince hubby of that... |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8421 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:55 pm: |
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Combustion - if that were to happen, the backlash against lesbian couples applying for public assistance would be devastating. Ha! I knew that I could find it! A good, solid link between economics and the evils of gay marriage!
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Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1134 Registered: 2-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:15 pm: |
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Now that I think about it...women should be barefoot and naked in the kitchen...with the handsome personal trainer that the "bringing all the bacon home by himself" husband supplied.     |
   
combustion
Citizen Username: Spontaneous
Post Number: 256 Registered: 4-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:55 pm: |
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Ugh, not for me. I like my men a little darker and scruffier. Like this...
I'd stay home and raise his babies!! |
   
Soparents
Supporter Username: Soparents
Post Number: 2175 Registered: 5-2005

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:58 pm: |
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.....and with a great big weapon too....
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sportsnut
Citizen Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 2497 Registered: 10-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:13 pm: |
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"I think the average great "bringing home the bacon all by myself" guy should sit down and calculate what he would pay for a cook, a cleaner, a personal secretary, a personal shopper and a nanny. When you covered these salaries then you really are a single provider." Wow, where to begin with that one..... Like most families in this area my wife and I share all of these responsibilities - sometimes not so equally. I shop, I do most if not all of the cooking, what little cleaning we do - we share, I take care of 95% of all child related issues (Pick up/drop off, Drs., play dates, birthday parties etc). Not sure what you meant by a personal secretary as my wife and I are pretty self sufficient and we do our own shopping. My wife couldn't afford to pay for what I do and I couldn't afford to pay for what she does so we share doing it. I know this was a joke thread but man some people have some serious issues. |
   
red
Citizen Username: Redy67
Post Number: 6438 Registered: 2-2003

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 6:52 pm: |
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sportnut--I think salary.com or a website similar to that estimated what a housewife would make. It came out to $139,000 a year or there abouts. |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1846 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:51 pm: |
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I love that statistic. Fine, let the average 'housewife' haul her out the door and find that $139,000 per year job. Then she can subcontract her housekeeping duties at home to illegal immigrants at a substantial savings. Even if she subs out the bedroom duties (wink wink) I'm sure she'd still show a clear profit. You never know - the husband may go for this idea whole-hog, as long as he gets to change the 'subcontractor' on a regular basis. Enough with the housewife salary nonsense, please. |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8430 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 9:50 pm: |
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Case, are you actually married to a SAH? |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 2-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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Sportsnut: If you share the duties and you sound like you do a heck of alot more then it doesn't apply to you. Case: I know plenty of housewifes who wouldn't mind the subcontracting deal and have done so for years. This is a thread joke so calm down..... |
   
Peter G. Magic
Citizen Username: Pmagic
Post Number: 172 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:15 pm: |
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Glock, in recent years there have been plenty of sexual harassment cases brought by men. Where have you been? Some of the more interesting ones I remember is the guy who sued successfully for getting groped on a Texas oil rig out at sea ... and then there are the men who sued Hooters for not being hired. Imagine them in those outfits! LOL. |
   
Mr. Big Poppa
Citizen Username: Big_poppa
Post Number: 785 Registered: 7-2004

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:04 pm: |
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Women in the workplace....no problem with that at all....as long as the workplace is a strip joint!  |
   
Bajou
Citizen Username: Bajou
Post Number: 1160 Registered: 2-2006

| Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 11:11 pm: |
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Ohhh Mr. Big Poppa....I have missed your posts LOL |
   
Case
Citizen Username: Case
Post Number: 1847 Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:31 am: |
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Gosh, Bajou, this is a joke? I thought it was 100% serious - thanks so much for letting me know. I'll try to pay closer attention from now on! (Tell me, the country you come from... does it have a lot of overhead power lines or lead in the water supply or something?). And no, my wife works - I think its good for her to have outside interests, so I let her have a job. I know its indulgent, but that's just the kind of guy I am.
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greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8440 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:47 am: |
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How much of her salary do you let her keep? It's not good for a woman to have too much money, you know. |
   
Spinal Tap
Citizen Username: Spinaltap11
Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2006

| Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 4:25 pm: |
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I think whoever earns or has more earning potential should be the breadwinner and if a couple legitimately needs two incomes to make ends meet for their family so be it. You do what you have to do. However, one thing that does chap my behind are people, and we have friends like this, who claim they both work to “make ends meet” but in reality are supporting a particular lifestyle they desire. For example, Lexus instead of Toyota, Viking instead of GE, West Palm Beach instead of Belmar, second hand furniture thrown together versus a living room right out of the pages of Home and Garden. I’m sure some out there will know what I’m referring to. My spouse and I are fortunate that we can live (and save some) on one income that’s a little above the median in Maplewood but we make sacrifices. I don’t know how many times we have had to turn down offers from our dual earner friends for dinner out because we’re broke. Then some of these same people then have the gumption to call my spouse and ask to pick up their child at day-care because the child has a temperature of 102 and the Tylenol they pumped them full of before drop off has worn off. I think in some cases the whole “make ends meet” line is an excuse parents use to assuage their guilt. Also, is the second income really worth it? Once you subtract the increased income taxes, child care, work clothes expenses, commuting expenses, having to eat out more or get take-out because you can’t cook at home as much, etc., etc., is what you’re left with from the second income really worth it?
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notehead
Supporter Username: Notehead
Post Number: 3607 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 4:49 pm: |
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My only problem with letting women work is that if they're earning money then we sorta kinda hafta let 'em vote, too, which is ridiculous. |
   
greenetree
Supporter Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8502 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |
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But if you switch to new-fangled, electronic, gadgety voting machines, we won't understand them so we just won't bother to even try to vote. |