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Rastro
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Post Number: 3713
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 2:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And we all know how driving a Hummer and shooting guns leads to weight gain.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti, what decides a human scale portion? I am not overweight and I eat a LOT. Must be at least 10k calories a day. I'm a swimmer and I am building up muscle.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 9:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go to any restaurant in Europe, where they don't have TGIF, Olive Garden and Red Lobster. Order some pasta or a piece of meat and a salad. What they bring you is human scale. And it's served in a modest bowl or plate. Not the jumbo slop troughs Americans eat out of. Which is why you don't see as many staggeringly obese individuals over there.

They also drive smaller cars, live in smaller dwellings, and watch TV on a human scale screen. Bigger is not better for most of civilization.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should also add that I eat a lot, and am quite buff.

Now, I don't eat 10,000 calories per day -- which I estimate to be several thousand chicken McNuggets. Activity is the key. Sadly, for those Americans who constantly stuff themselves with cheesy nachos, Biggie size bacon burgers and vats of that wretched Cold Stone Creamery stuff, they have no choice but to exercise almost 23 hours a day or be fat.
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themp
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would happen to you if you ate at the Reservoir every night? I mean that's a feed bucket that they bring you. There are enough BTUs stored in that meal to lift the space shuttle. But oh, that scungilli with garlic, pasta, squid and garlic. And that orange colored sauce. So gooey. So right.



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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would happen?

1. You'd get a two seater all to yourself on the train, every day.
2. Forget bicycling.
3. Couch and bed would eventually collapse.
4. Fire department would ultimately have to extract you from your dwelling and haul you to an appropriate facility.

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Lizziecat
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd give up spaghetti
To shut up Ligeti.
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Wendy
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lizziecat, you're a regular Ogden Nash!
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mem
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I gain weight, I don't blame America, or American restaurants, I blame myself. If you're rich enough to go to places with large, fattening portions, then you are rich enough to know it's bad for you.

Stop patronizing these places and they go away.
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mem
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Burp!

:-)
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Case
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Post Number: 1896
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anyone ever tried Plataforma in NYC?
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mem
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Post Number: 6560
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"But no, I'm sorry anyone who claims the food here is as good as the city either doesn't eat there regularly or doesn't know food. Period."

Oink.
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doctoralissa
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Post Number: 234
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Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I lost 8 pounds in the past six months giving up HFCS. I am NOT dieting otherwise. I did increase my activity as well (I admit I was training for a triathlon...but I had tapered off big time for two months before the race so at least four of those months was not including hard core excercise). HF (as we lovingly call it in my house is a terrible evil substance...not to use hyperbole unnecessarily, but it is BAD stuff)...check this out from the Washington Post

"But increasingly, it's not just the growing consumption of foods with added sugars that concerns some nutrition experts. What has also changed during the past four decades, the USDA figures show, is the type of sweeteners consumed -- a trend that some studies suggest may help to undermine appetite control and possibly play a role in weight gain.

In 1966, refined sugar, also known as sucrose, held the No. 1 slot, accounting for 86 percent of sweeteners used, according to the USDA. Today, sweeteners made from corn are the leader, racking up $4.5 billion in annual sales and accounting for 55 percent of the sweetener market. That switch largely reflects the steady growth of high-fructose corn syrup, which climbed from zero consumption in 1966 to 62.6 pounds per person in 2001."

Hello? Does this EXACTLY track the 40 year weight gain we observe. Link to the full article...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8003-2003Mar10?language=printer

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Rastro
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Case, I'm a big fan (so to speak). Amazingly, you don't see tons of fat people there, though it's all you can eat. So apparently not all of us are required to eat until there is no food left.

And the food is excellent, but more expensive than many of the churrascarias (sp?) in Newark.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just returned from a field inspection in northeastern Pennsylvania. I have never seen such a formidable fortress of junk food establishments and mega-portion offerings. There was little to do in this place except eat donuts, deep-fried meat items, and cheese slathered "vegetables." The people were very friendly and polite -- but, I must tell you, immense.

Not overweight, not chunky, not simply fat (all profiles I enjoy). Gargantuan. Titanic. Mammoth. I don't know where one gets clothes on that scale. Or whether standard-sized plumbing fixtures can be used.

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Abner Aliger
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Must agree with Ligetti; prior to retiring to Paris I lived in S. Orange then moved to the Easton, Pa area. People there are unbelievably "large" as are their off-spring. If you see a "fat" person here in Europe chances are they are from the US!
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Post Number: 849
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Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reject Pennsylvania?
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SO Ref
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

McFat
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kss
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Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 9:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Abner, You must have lived in a different Easton then where my family has lived for over 75 years & where I grew up & still visit. I've not seen anything out of the ordinary weight wise at all. Part of it is probably due to the fact that there aren't many good restaurants.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 779
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a good one, real funny.

Folks, I don't get paid for the reports I prepare concerning health and technology issues. They are my gift to the community.

Reject all who stand in the way of my work as a public safety and nuisance monitor.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Username: Ligeti

Post Number: 789
Registered: 7-2002


Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 2:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The number of kids considered overweight has more than tripled since 1980, according to the Centers for Disease Control. Among those between ages 6 to 19, over 9 million kids -- 16 percent -- are considered overweight.

There is no one single reason for the rise in obesity nor is it an overnight phenomenon, experts say. Changes in eating patterns -- like the portions of food consumed, which have grown over the last 20 years and the types of food now available, like fast food and pre-packaged meals which may be high in fats, sugars and calories -- have played a role in the weight gain, the CDC says.

Modern life has also made Americans more sedentary. "Technology has created many time and labor saving products. Some examples include cars, elevators, computers, dishwashers, and televisions. Cars are used to run short distance errands instead of people walking or riding a bicycle," the CDC says.
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Robert O'Connor
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Post Number: 84
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Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

America is getting larger!


http://www.1stcallmobility.co.uk/Great%20John%201.htm


I've actually installed several of these in a weight loss extended care facility.

Good product!
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Stephanie N.
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know it has been mentioned before, but many communities are not set up to promote walking or much of an active lifestyle. I just got back from visiting relatives in Maryland, and you have to hop on the high way to pick up a gallon of milk.

As far as food is concerned, eating out isn't the only issue. The food industry is continuously coming up with different covenience foods. There seem to be a lot of commercials for Hot Pockets, Jimmy Dean breakfast sausage sandwiches and the like. It takes more work to wash and cut vegetables than it does to open a box.


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