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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would patronize a restaurant twice as often if they offered half portions of their entrees.

Your reaction.
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John Caffrey
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed. I try to solve the problem by bagging approx. half the stuff and making two meals out of it. This especially works for my lunch stop. Either that or brown baggin lunch also helps.
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ligeti, perhaps you could just bring a friend and split the meal.
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combustion
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From your wording, this may be a joke (twice/half), but I would definitely like that. A lot of restaurants offer HUGE portions. What happens. You leave it there and feel like you're wasting it. You take it home and either forget it in the car, or leave it in the fridge for a week and THEN throw it out. Or you eat it all and feel like a pig for doing so.

Why not have all meals available in two sizes? Not all people are one size, why should meals be that way too? Lets say you went out to dinner with a 6'2" football player and my tiny Italian grandmother. They both want the pasta and meatballs. Do you really think they'd both want the same portion size? How come the kids menu is the only place you can get a different size? A lot of restaurants won't even let adults order off the (usually crappy) kids menu anyway.
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Joan
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Many restaurants serve portions that are two to three times larger than most people are apt to serve themselves at home. This is because the food costs tend to be lower than the labor costs and overhead so some restaurants justify their prices by giving you a lot of food. It is not only permissible but advisable to bring half or more of your meal home for an additional meal(s) at home.

Think of it as one or more additional meals where you don't have to cook.
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SO Ref
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Quote:

Ligeti, perhaps you could just bring a friend and split the meal.




Here is where we hit a snag for LMM.


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Lydia
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I almost always take home a doggie bag when I eat out - protein portions I eat, and soggy veggies go in the dog bowl.

I love leftovers, so much the better if I didn't have to turn on the stove in this hot weather.

The only thing I don't take home are french fries - not even good for the compost pile.
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SO Ref, that was not a very nice things to say.
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SO Ref
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forgive me Jesus. I'm sorry.
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Nashira
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Applebee's offers their salads in full portion or half portion size. The half portion size is still quite large, but the full portion size is enormous.
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ref;

I was going to say the same thing.
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SO Ref
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Which thing - that LMM has no friends or it was a bad thing to say?
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 9:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with SO Ref. Although Tom Reingold is always sticking up for Ligeti.

I love how Ligeti thinks that his portion-size would be the right size for all. If you serve more than the average size portion, you are essentially meeting the needs of most of your customers.

If you don't need to eat all of the portion, don't do it. When will people be accountable for their own actions?!?!?? If you eat like a pig and become overweight...guess what??!??! IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT!!!!
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Lou
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 9:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do wish more restaurants would offer the 1/2 sizes.
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 9:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Average" size American portions far exceed global standards. That's why we are so fat with big butts compared to the rest of the world. Our food is delivered to us in troughs.

Reject America's obsession with slathering cheese all over everything and horse-portions of pasta.
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's why we are so fat with big butts compared to the rest of the world.

Speak for yourself Ligeti.

Also, how do you support the statement that Average size portions "far exceed" global standards? You can't.
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Rastro
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People are not fat because they are given large portions. People are fat because they eat too much for the amount of exercise they do. They eat too much because they either do not know they are eating too much, or they don't care. Anyone who simply eats all they are fed without thinking about what and how much is a glutton.

I am about 10-15 pounds overweight. I know why. I eat too much garbage, and don't exercise enough. But I always know when I'm crossing the line between eating a bit too much, and stuffing my face for the sake of clearing my plate.
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yabbadabbadoo
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like big butts

FF
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ref;

Both.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Report: This thread is pointless.
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combustion
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, so what?
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps Ligeti is just showing spirit for his overweight country by adding to it through the use of laziness. Maybe he is just too lazy to eat a full portion.
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SO Ref
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reject full portions!!!
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Mayor McCheese
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reject half portions!
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Buttercup
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 2:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with this:

"Average" size American portions far exceed global standards. That's why we are so fat with big butts compared to the rest of the world. Our food is delivered to us in troughs."

But not with this:

"Reject America's obsession with slathering cheese all over everything and horse-portions of pasta."

I am proud that I can eat more than most men!
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LilLB
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 7:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm overweight, but not because someone is forcing me to eat large portions of food. Blaming restaurants for making us fat is just shirking responsibility for yourself. I'm very clear that no one is to blame on this one but me and it's all within my control. (Now, if I could only get some of that "control" thing, I'd be fine )

That said, I would love a 1/2 portion option both to resist the temptation of eating more as well as not wasting food when I don't eat it all. Sometimes I doggie bag it, but not always - either because I'm in the city and don't want to lug it home on the train or I'm eating locally and won't be going directly home after.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate when people say "that is why we are so fat with big butts" and stupid stuff like that. If you are fat, speak for yourself but leave me out of it. Because I'm American...and I'm not fat.
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SO Ref
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate when people call me "fat-" because it's really a misnomer. You can be fat and have absolutely no at all.

Check it out the next time you see me around town.
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John Caffrey
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A prime example of this is Parkwood Diner. Now, I like Parkwood and patronize it at least two times per week. Complaint is:

Soup, Large and super large. No "cups" of soup.
Hamburger: The only size is 1/2 pound.

Now who needs a 1/2 pound hamburger? Scully and I will sometimes split the hamburger but who needs it in the first place?
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ken (the other one)
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They probably offer only larger sizes so they can charge more...
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken - that argument doesn't fly. Jocelyn's was one of my favorite places... european sized portions so that one could eat an appetizer, salad, main course and dessert without feeling at all "stuffed" and needing to roll out of the place. It was a pricey meal, but top quality and a treat for the tastebuds all around.

American's are the originators of the "Super-Size" = better thinking. True, one doesn't have to eat the whole thing, but I'm not a big fan of leftovers, so I tend to leave what I don't eat at the restaurant... seems wasteful.

My 90 year old mother would love to order from the children's menu - appropriate portions for a person her age, some places will let her, others won't so she just orders an appetizer.
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Soparents
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still can't handle "American" portions. I asked in a diner once why they put so much food on the plate and the answer was so that people feel they are getting value/a lot for their money, or they will go elsewhere. I watched a fair few people finish it all, others leave some and more take the remaining food home in a box. I'm not a fan of leftovers, so I always leave the equivalent (to me) of a second serving on my plate!

I would also love to be able to order a half portion but no-one seems to offer this. (Trattoria do kids size pastas.)

This is the diner type place i'm talking about, the fine restaurants seem to have it pretty much right.
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ReallyTrying
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 2:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always say I want the child's portion or a half-portion. In a very nice way, I expect to get the size portion I want. And it's failed only once. I guess I've reached a point where I won't be limited by the menu. Forget what they"offer" - ask for what you want.

I do make exceptions, thugh, at really good restaurants (Ryland Inn, Verjus, e.g.) where I know the chef really cares and plans and tries to innovate, and I'm not going to mess with that.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 2:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SoOrLady, if you have a problem with not eating it all...that's not the restaurants problem...thats yours.
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anon
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Eat everything on your plate. There are children starving in..."


Took me a long time to overcome that hangup.
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you ever noticed the size of the plates most restaurants use? We have an otherwise favorite restaurant (the food and service are really good) that serves its food in dishes so large, they literally don't fit on the table when two persons are seated at a table for two and order separate meals.

A good way to cut down on how much you eat (at home or in a restaurant) is to serve or plate the food on a smaller dish.
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Bob K
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The answer is to go to a buffet retaurant. That way you can pick the size you want. :-)

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Joanne G
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 5:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have several friends who have just returned from visiting your country and they all complain about the size of the over-large 'regular' portions served. I was at an Italian wedding last weekend where everything was generous and over-the-top and was told that was small compared with what you get as 'regular' portions.

Here, you can't ask for take-home parcels of your dine-in food - food safety regulations have worked against reheating the food especially as the proprietors don't know how you will store or transport the food before reheating it. Yet they're still liable if you get sick or die from their food. So now you can't do it - it's chucked out instead, wasted into garbage bins.

I'm finding many friends are expressing ethical concerns over the size of formal meals now: concerns because of world food shortages, water shortages in our own coutnry, concerns over how we on one hand tell people how to maintain a healthy weight and lifestyle then on the other hand shove unhealthy non-balanced 'choices' at them for self-indulgence while charging the earth for the privilege.

If customers don't speak up, proprietors won't change what they do...
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 6:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In our family of four, we rarely order more than three meals and sometimes just two. Even so, we often bring home leftovers.

I do appreciate when smaller portions are available, as at Applebees, and I sometimes take advantage of it. However, due to the same dynamics that lead to the large portions in the first place, you don't save that much money on the half portion (nowhere near half the cost) because the labor is still the same.
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Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why is there so much oxygen in the air? I don't need this much oxygen, but I just can't help breathing it in!!!!

When I go to Disney, I tell them, "Look, don't you just have the 'half-fun' package? I don't NEED to have all your AMERICAN SIZED fun, but I just can't using up all the fun you have to offer!"

I can't go to any business happy hour because I end up getting trashed and puking on my boss. Don't they understand that they are trying to make me drink 10 pints per hour!??!?!?

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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Glock 17
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 8:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Mr. Big Poppa
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a really good restaurant in Summit called Il Pastaria that offers 2-3 different sizes of almost all of their entrees and salads, each priced accordingly. More restaurants should follow this trend... let the people who want more have more and those who don't need as much don't feel wasteful.
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combustion
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't expect a half portion to be half price. I understand that the same amount of labor went into making it. I just want to option of buying less so I don't have to waste food.
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Joshua Pines
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apropos, the Cheesecake Factory just announced that it will be adding a half-portion option as well as a low/no trans fat menu. So where's the closest TCF to Maplewood?!
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SO Ref
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 8:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Willowbrook Mall
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Bob K
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 8:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Cheesecake Factory overdoes it on portion size. I have been there twice and both times I was unable to complete the meal, which for me never, ever happens.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fast food places offer "value menus" with smaller, more cost effective options. So anyone complaining about the size of the portions obviously hasnt been to a fast food place.
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combustion
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 3:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to go to a fast food joint when I want to eat healthy? Yeah, right. Besides, I'm not a teenager. Do you really think I'm going to take hubby out for fast food for a romantic evening? "Put on your good suit, sweetie! We're going to Taco Bell!"
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Ligeti Man Meat
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In case you haven't figured it out, Glock is a teen. At that age, fine cuisine = junk food.

I am glad he got rid of the silly gun moniker.

Probably a good kid, though. I'm lookin' out for him.
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Glock 17
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Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since when did I say fine cuisine=junk food?

Your assumptions sicken me.

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