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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8944
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:59 am: | 
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Paula - that's an interesting perspective. You don't like an idea, so you deign it "not useful." It was a coherent, serious, useful suggestion. Perhaps if you want unlimited use for one fee, you ought to join a country club.
Tupper - That works out to $41.66 a visit for 3 visits. Glad you think it's well worth it. Please PL me your contact info so that I can contact you next Spring. I'm assuming that you have no problem buying my membership?
My mind is blown by the level of sheer selfishness amongst some of you pool members. I raised a concern. Instead of trying to think of ways that it might work, or the membership can be more inclusive, you not only compete to come up with more ways to shoot it down, you insult the person who raises the issue. "County Club Dilettante". Methinks some of you need a mirror..... |
Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 892
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 2:38 pm: |
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re: flotation devices - this is from my post earlier in this thread:
Quote:The standing policy is that all flotation devices must be certified by the US Coast Guard. You can tell if a particular PDF is certified because it will be sewn or printed somewhere on the PDF. Swimmies and floaties [inflatable devices] are not certified, and are usually clearly marked "Not a lifesaving device". Exceptions are granted to disabled children (those with cerebral palsy, for example) and should be pre-cleared with the management.
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hch
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Username: Hch
Post Number: 338
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:40 pm: |
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Greenetree-
Perhaps it is you that is being selfish? You want special treatment because you will only use the pool a few times per year.
Do you ask the town for a discount on your taxes if you don't use as many services as other people? |
Seagull
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Username: Seagull
Post Number: 163
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:51 pm: |
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Greenetree is getting blasted here and her concern completely dismissed by many posters. She did offer a feasible solution that should at least be considered.
The question I'd ask is how much would one be willing to pay for a 4 visit per season pass? I think there would be a price that could be set high enough to not be taken advantage of- but low enough to allow for occasional users not to purchase a full membership. I also think you'd have to not allow guest passes with this type of ticket purchase.
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sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3695
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 10:18 pm: |
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Good points Seagull (not that I was blasting and I hope that nothing I posted earlier was taken that way.)
They definitely should not allow guest passes along with such a membership if it was instituted. I already know of some people who buy single memberships and then occasionally bring other family members on guest passes, rather than pay for a family membership. I've been tempted by that myself, since it would cost us less than we are currently paying, given our level of use. But, it is really the child who we would want to hold the membership and I think that single memberships are only for adults, or at least for those old enough to visit the pool without an adult. So, we continue to pay for a family membership, even though only one of our kids goes these days, usually with a parent, but sometimes with a friend's family.
Allowing a limited pass (with even lower cost than single membership) to have guest privileges would definitely invite abuse. |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 4471
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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update, my daughter is two steps closer in her quest, it would be interesting for her as well as for me if she can take her quest further (if she even decides too) , apparently this would not be the first time action has been taken against so called adult time that infringes upon the rights of others.
I wish there were people out there other than those as self serving as tupperjo that would make any type of legal action unnecessary, but this isn't always the case, while you may not hear anything this year, it may surface before the next pool season occurs.
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Joe R.
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Username: Ragnatela
Post Number: 526
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:14 am: |
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God help the poor lawyer who takes this "civil rights" crusade on. Maybe the lawyer should run into Court tomorrow with an Order to Show Cause and request for preliminary injunction. After all, there are only 3 weekends left!. A crisis like this must be redressed without delay! |
Claflin Kennerly
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Username: 2cents
Post Number: 35
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:39 am: |
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Boy, am I happy to be a member at the South Orange Pool... |
tjohn
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Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 4679
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:59 am: |
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Monster,
It is sad that you can't channel your daughter's energy and righteousness into to some worthy cause. I may be mistaken, but I do not believe adult swim is the most serious human rights issue in Essex County. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8948
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 10:17 am: |
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Ah, yes. Hch. You are one of "those". Anyone who wants to be treated equally is demanding "special treamtent", according to those comfortable folks who benefit from the status quo. Must piss you the hell off that you don't get the front of the bus to yourself, huh? Think of how lonely you and Paula would be.
Please explain, articulately and cohesively (if you can) why this is "special treatment". FWIW, I am not one of the childless who are demanding that my property taxes be lowered because I have no kids in the school system.
As a matter of fact, I chose to become a member of a community, knowing that I would pay for things that do not benefit me directly. If the Town (and you parents) reject me from participating in the pool, then the tax discount idea is a good one.
My idea would add revenue. I happen to know of lots of abuse - passes get loaned out all the time. I've been offered other people's passes, as a matter of fact, which I have never accepted. Methinks that some of you protest too much. Perhaps the selfishness and vitriol come from fear. Some of you are afraid that examining the current policy would invite such scrutiny that your own little cheating tricks would get caught?
Insults are the last resort of those who have no answers or original thoughts.
I seriously invite someone (who has actual knowledge to provide which has not been retreived from a random orifice) to give me their thoughts on the following:
1. Problem: A limited pass user could "lose" their pass and get another one. What happens when a family/single pass holder loses their pass now? How is someone prevented from getting a duplicate and giving one to someone else?
2. A limited pass holder has their pass punched 4 times and the visits are used up. What are the potential ways that this can be exploited into more visits?
3. What exactly are the concerns of those who are so vehemently against it? How will this harm the pool?
4. How are crowds controlled now? Is there a capacity limit at the pool? Are the number of users tracked? If only X number are allowed in at a time, and a limited use pass user happens to show up one day, how is this person's presence adding to the work load or capacity limit?
5. Are there any rules in place that limit or prohibit guests so that members have priority on high-use days? If not, why not? Are guest passes not more of a source of crowding than limited use would be?
6. What are cohesive, intelligent arguments (this means that one must explain one's objections without name calling) against trying this as a pilot program next summer?
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Albatross
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Username: Albatross
Post Number: 893
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:10 pm: |
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Greenetree:
Answers to your questions are:
1. When a member loses their badge, they are typically given a grace period, after which they are expected to purchase a new badge. Unfortunately, we cannot stop someone from giving their badge to someone else, but if it is discovered by the pool staff the member is subject to confiscation of the badge for the duration of the season and a fine, both at the discretion of the management. Of course, people who are genuinely unaware that badges are non-transferrable are typically not penalized.
2. Sneaking in past the front desk during a particularly busy time, such as doling out guest passes on a hot day. With the current system, a badge is a badge and you either have it or you don't, but four holes punched all look the same to the staff inside.
3. While I'm not necessarily for or against it, it would be significantly more difficult for the staff to determine who belongs and who does not. It would necessitate more close-up checking of passes at the front desk and could lengthen lines at the front.
4. There is no statutory capacity limit for the pool; if the manager deems that the pool is too crowded, he / she could stop more people from entering, but that level of crowding has never occurred. The limit for guests is 100 per day. The number of patrons per day is tracked at the front desk using a clicker.
5. The limit on guests is 100 per day, first-come, first-served. As to whether or not guest passes would be more of a crowding source than limited use, it would depend on the number of limited use passes allowed and the pattern in which they are used; i.e. more people on July 4, Labor Day, etc. Since limited passes have not been tried, it's impossible to say.
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As far as taxes and use of community resources:
Unless I'm mistaken, no tax money goes to the pool. The pool is paid for by the membership fees - i.e., pool members pay extra for use of the pool. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8951
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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I wish that people would stop misinterpreting my statement about being a tax-paying resident as one that tax revenue is given to the pool. I have said that, as a tax-paying resident, I would like reasonable and equal access to the same services as other tax-paying residents.
Alba - thank you for your thoughts. I think that #2 could be handled by the design of the pass and am not sure why #3 is necessarily true (again, if the passes were designed correctly). But, a trial period would certainly answer the questions, methinks.
In terms of abuse and consequences, how many passes have been confiscated this year (so far), last year and the year before? What have been the penalties?
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Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2957
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 1:56 pm: |
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GT, I totally agree that a trial period should be instituted. I can envision a resident guest pass (no need to go with someone else) which costs about 15 dollars and you are given no more than 4. Perhaps one is made to purchase 4 (no more/no less). Therefore one is choosing to save about $65 to use the pool for the few times when you feel you want to as opposed to plunking down the full amount of $125 for a single membership. Of course you'll sign something as the regular pass-holders do agreeing to abide by the pool rules.
Keep up the creative thinking. I think you really have something there and open-minded people will hopefully come to see that. Let me know if I can be of any help. Really! |
lizzyr
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Username: Lizzyr
Post Number: 290
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 3:05 pm: |
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Monster - does your daughter really have a lawyer who supports her cause?
As a former lifeguard, I would argue there is a public safety aspect to mandatory adult swim. Kids in pools often get overtired and hypothermic and do not realize it. Mandatory adult swim is a way to make them rest and allow their body temperature to adjust.
Kids in Maplewood have many options at the adult swim time. THe diving tank and training pool are 2 good examples. I don't see how children are being discriminated by making them get out of the pool. (as I said before, 20 minutes is too long - 10-15 were the standards at the pool where I grew up).
Maybe she should channel her energy into something positive, such as suggesting additional activities or options, such as playground equipment or organized games, that could be made available at adult swim.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8952
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 3:31 pm: |
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Wendy - I was just thinking about something like that. The single day pass would have to be picked up in person, with a limit on the number purchased. Going back to what someone else said, the one-day pass could be preforated (like a movie ticket). Once it's torn in half, it's used. Then, the half-pass could be worn pinned to the person like the other badge.
I also think that your suggested price is fair. |
bettyspaghetti
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Username: Bettyspaghetti
Post Number: 45
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 4:37 pm: |
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Lizzyr those are some great points and ideas you made. I agree with you entirely! |
Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 894
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 4:39 pm: |
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Greenetree: Apologies for the misinterpretation.
re: your question 2 - I could see something like a paper pass with one's name that would need to be presented at the front desk with ID, and the presentee would receive a wristband like guests do. That would take care of the first half of #3, but would be certain to lengthen lines and make the front desk more busy.
re: the first half of my answer 3: if daily passes were designed such that holes were punched in a badge, they would have to be checked and punched at the front desk. Staff inside wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a hole punched a week ago and a hole punched that day.
(Note that the daily passes, like passes now, will have to be worn at all times - perforated paper might not do so hot in the water. :-) ) |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8953
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 4:47 pm: |
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I guess that I don't know what the passes look like.
Whether hole punch or tear-tab, the idea would be that once a hole is punched or tab torn off, it is done.
So, if a pass is punched 4 times, it can't be used anymore. Yes, the desk staff would have to punch or tear when the person first enters the pool that day.
I think that Wendy's idea is better, only a certain number allowed to be purchased. If it's a plastic wristband, there could be an extra long preforated piece attached at the end. The desk person would snap it off. Again, it's good for that day, but once it's used, it's used.
I wouldn't even care if I had to go down to Town Hall and buy it on the day that I want to use it. It could be dated for that day only. The date could be in big numbers.
I suspect that there would be so few of these sold that no one will notice. |
Paula Robinson
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Username: Mph
Post Number: 2
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 5:29 pm: |
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I think that everyone making great suggestions and ideas like the past few posts would be most helpful to both the pool staff and committee.
On a normal weekend the pool usually generates over 2,000 people- plus 100 guests (or more on super hot days).
On a nice or hot week day in July- the pool has between 1500-2000 people- usually more on the hotter days. This is a large crowd to handle and with guests coming in also and not knowing all of the rules, it can be hard for the staff at times.
The 15 minute suggestion to changing adult swim is also a great one... I think that the pool may listen to this and try it out- it is not getting rid of them- but making baby steps towards making the 'majority' happy.
I do wonder however Monster, why you don't talk to the pool management staff and actually have your thoughts heard that way-- rather than blow up the situation? |
Monster©
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Username: Monster
Post Number: 4474
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 6:39 pm: |
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It's not me, it's my daughter, and it's a learning experience.
Out of everything I've read and heard about adult swim, Lizzyr's response is the only one that makes since.
Ot all makes me think of my childhood and going to the pool, this was in both Germany and PA, there was a mandatory time out of the pool every two or so hours, nobody was allowed in the pool at this time, it only lasted for about ten or so minutes.
This of course allowed for kids and adults to warm up, I guess it also helped in letting the lifeguards see if they had missed any drowning people in the pool, obviously giving them a better view to see someone on the bottom.
Another note, it seems that there were always more lifeguards on duty, all stations always had a lifeguard there.
In Germany the pools I went to required one to shower first before getting in the pool, there were numerous shower poles around the pool where one could stand rinse off over a drained area, and then get in the pool, this was also very good for rinsing off after getting out of the pool.
Perhaps the pool committee needs to have an auxiliary committee made up of a few teens and pre-teens that they could talk to/with about what can be done to better improve the quality of the pool experience for children. A little more care and organization is required, because it certainly seems lacking now. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8955
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 7:29 pm: |
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Reach back to your childhood, everyone. C'mon. You can do it. Remember the first time you became aware of something that just seemed so unfair, a rule that made no sense, inflicted only because you were a kid?
It may not have been earth-shattering. You may have been wrong. But it was important to you.
The sense of injustice I felt over the rule that kids couldn't have an ice cream cone on the public bus, but adults could, made my blood boil in 7th grade. Lord knows that it wasn't the most important political problem of 1973, but we saw it as discrimination, nevertheless.
I look back now and understand the rule a bit more. But it was my first lesson in protest against injustice, which has become a bit more refined and wordly over the years.
If Monster's daughter has an issue that she wants to protest, why is it such a big deal? This is indeed a chance for her to learn a lesson. Not necessarily with a lawyer, but a kids' protest or request for meeting with the Pool Committee so that they can have a discussion on the rules will carry her far for the rest of her life. |
Joe R.
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Username: Ragnatela
Post Number: 527
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 8:38 pm: |
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Then it's agreed. Monster's kid will compose and file a formal protest with the Committee. Post a copy when it's done. Let's see what happens.
Greenetree- If they ever do change the rules and come up with the daily pass, we'll know who you are because you'll be the one with the extra long day-glo plastic wrist band training from your arm and the perforated paper passes pinned to your bathing suit. Would you really pay $65 to go to the pool 4 times? |
Wendy
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Username: Wendy
Post Number: 2967
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 8:56 pm: |
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That's $60 dollars, btw. 15X4. It would cost more than $15 in gas, tolls and admission fees to get to the beach I would think. Not to mention the time element. GT said it sounded fair. She knows it has to be more than a regular guest pass to keep this from causing a reduction in pool revenues. We really have thought about this and we're both pretty intelligent, immodest but intelligent. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8956
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 9:52 pm: |
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Wendy: 
Joe - yeah, actually. I would. When I get a random Friday off, it would be such a treat to go to the pool. |
Paula Robinson
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Username: Mph
Post Number: 3
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:49 am: |
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What happens if it rains on that random Friday? You will march back to the Rec department and demand your money back for the unused day? |
hch
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Username: Hch
Post Number: 340
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:32 am: |
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Greenetree:
You do have equal access to the pool, but you do not feel the current membership fees are reasonable. In my opinion, they are more than reasonable. We disagree on this point.
Clearly you have many ideas concerning this subject. I would encourage you to get in touch with the Pool Committee or Roger Brauchli (not through MOL). Use some of that energy to help improve the pool.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8962
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:50 am: |
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Paula- that is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Is that the common practice when it is a particularly rainy, cool summer? Do all the members get their money back? More to the point, is that the best you can do?
I'm still waiting for some real reasons from some of you zealots as to why this is such a horrendous idea. Other than disturbing the status quo, I mean.
H - someone had posted contact info for the pool committee earlier and I will indeed do that. I don't consider MOL an official forum for notifying/requesting anything regarding town services/recreation, etc. |
Duder
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Username: El_duderino
Post Number: 1047
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:26 am: |
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Monster,
I'm not a lawyer, but let me know if your daughter needs any extra signatures for her petition (good for her). My kids aren't old enough to be affected by Adult Swim, but it is one of the stupidest rules/traditions. |
Paula Robinson
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Username: Mph
Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:39 pm: |
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Just got back from a very nice afternoon at the pool. Thought everyone would like to know that I am very pleased with the staff. I was greeted with a friendly 'hello' when I walked in, and all the staff was on target. I made sure to pay attention to the adult swims.. At 3 & 4 there were 'modified' adult swims, one with closing down the shallow end of the main pool and the other with closing the 6 ft portion. They did not call one at 5pm.
Although many people would like to see adult swims end, it was nice to see the managment staff actually paying attention to the amount of patrons at the pool and trying to accompany everyone.
Great job! I hope the weather stays like this for the rest of the summer! |
eliz
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Username: Eliz
Post Number: 1670
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 6:56 pm: |
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OK I'm going to repeat once again - I DON'T WANT THE ADULT SWIMS TO END! People are so afraid something is going to be taken from them!
It's a big pool - there is room for everyone. It only needs to be modified - exactly what you saw at the pool today but on a consistent basis. |
Paula Robinson
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Username: Mph
Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 7:36 pm: |
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Eliz... I was saying this so that the people complaining on this thing could realize that the staff of the pool is trying to keep the best interest of the patrons, and trying to take suggestions and make everyone happy... or at least show you that they are listening.
I think that when they can modify- they do so..... I just wanted to tell you all what I saw today- because I feel like a lot of times people have no actual argument to stand on- just want to complain to hear themselves do so. |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3706
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 9:42 pm: |
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Please don't take any of this as complaints, but rather as observations, requests for clarification and possibly a constructive suggestion or two ...
The complete elimination of the 5:00 pm adult swim threw me for a loop today. I guess I've come to depend on that hourly announcement to keep track of what time it is. I just barely made it to another commitment when I realized what had (or rather hadn't) happened, but by then it was getting close to 5:30.
I guess that some of us are creatures of habit and do set our (internal) clocks this way at times ... especially when we don't have our glasses on and can't see that clock on the building. And many parents use the hourly announcement as the "impersonal 3rd party" reminder for when it is time to go home. Perhaps there should still be something every hour - either a modified adult swim (as happened earlier in the day) or an announcement re why it isn't needed this time.
Did the training pool crowd miss their kickboard opportunity? I know that my kids always looked forward to that when they were that age.
Also, I'm sure that there is a good reason, but I've never really understood why kickboards were allowed during adult swim but not at other times, or why older children never have an opportunity to use them. Is that a safety issue?
Describing/explaining the rationale behind the various rules goes a LONG way toward improving compliance and acceptance of them. It also helps everyone to realize when certain rules may no longer make sense and need to be readdressed. Some of the pool committee responses on this board in this thread and others in recent years have helped me to better understand some of the rules, many of which I never understood for the nearly 20 years I had been a pool member. So, I really encourage the committee to continue to improve communication of not only the WHAT, but the WHY, of the rules and also to keep an open mind toward continued evolution of them, where appropriate. |
Joe R.
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Username: Ragnatela
Post Number: 529
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:17 pm: |
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SAC: I take it you are being facetious when you say you would like an adult swim announcement so that you know when to go home?
I guess the reason there are no kickboards allowed in the training pool all the time is because the sheer numbers of people in the pool when it is not adult swim make that unworkable. As for the older kids, the kickboards are a training tool for young swimmers. Older kids might have fun jerking around with them, but don't need them.
Paula: I'm glad to hear your good report. The pool is a great place. |
Paula Robinson
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Username: Mph
Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 10:20 pm: |
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I know that people are making suggestions and asking questions. Something I said was interpreted incorrectly and I took it to heart.
As a former pool employee, I will do my best to answer your questions:
The managers and guards have been asked by the pool committee to please look at each day as a separate one. They should take note of how many people are in the pool and what the total count is and decide to modify or not hold an adult swim according to that. The weather and time of the day, as well as time of the season also has a lot to do with this.
As far as the kickboards go... The kids are allowed to still use them even if an adult swim is not going on. As long as they ok it with the lifeguard in the stand and are using it during the designated time. I think that they orginally had this policy because adults should be with their kids in the pool and therefore adding kickboards wouldn't make the lifeguards job so hard. I actually think that the kickboard policy should possibly be reversed.. kickboards allowed during non-adult swim times and then put away during adult swim (only because the training pool gets so crowded at times during adult swim).... however, you do raise a valid question as to why older kids don't have any 'kickboard time' and this I cannot answer. I know that the main pool would be difficult to have so many bodies in and then to add kickboards or other floaties would make the pool way too crowded. |
Albatross
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Username: Albatross
Post Number: 895
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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Not to trump Paula, but I am a current Maplewood Pool employee. The standing policy re: kickboards is:
Kickboards are only allowed during adult swim. Very rarely, a manager may elect to provide kickboards outside of adult swim.
The reason that they are restricted to young children is because they are being provided to help those children learn to swim / improve their swimming, rather than as toys. This is also the reason why adults are to accompany their children in the training pool during adult swim; the idea is that parents work with their children to improve their swimming. |
sac
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Username: Sac
Post Number: 3707
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 7:57 am: |
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Nope - not facetious at all. I'm sure I'm not the only parent who prefaces a trip to the pool with something like "we can stay until the x:xx adult swim starts".
And, as Paula notes, the training pool is MORE rather than LESS crowded during adult swims (as the younger children move there from the main pool), so to be consistent with the use of kickboards being for instructional purposes, it would make sense for them to be used at other times, in the training pool, and without the age restriction if a parent was with the child or perhaps at specific times announced by the lifeguards. There certainly are children older than five who are not strong swimmers ... witness all those mentioned above who can't go to the diving tank and therefore have no choice but to be out of the water during adult swim.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 8991
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:53 am: |
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In my childhood pool, kickboard use was goverened by the number of people in the pool (it does obscure view) and manner of use. They could be used as to practice kicking only. Laying on them like a float, bashing siblings over the head, etc. got a whistle blow and time out of the pool.
I don't remember how long those time-outs were for dangerous behavior. But they sure seemed loooooong. |
Brookklyn54
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Username: Brookklyn54
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:27 am: |
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Its amazing to read all of your comments about the Maplewood Pool. Being a resident of Maplewood for 36 years and attending the pool for these years, surviving the adult swims, and all the pool rules is what allows me today to bring my children to the pool. None of you realize that without these rules you would not be attending a pool like this today. Unfortunately the people that are complaining are the people that are making it difficult for others. It once was that when a child got out of control in the water they had a timeout under the stand for 15min. Today that is no longer enforced and I see that it is something that should be. Especially for guest who get out of control. Also it once was you could eat at the babypool area, now it has been restricted because people have become too lazy to throw out there garbage. I hear many complain about no strollers on the upper deck, this always has been a rule for the safety of a child in a stroller not to purposely inconvience the parent. Guest passes once never exsisted this came into effect approximately 5 years or so ago . Also at one time there was a waiting list for the pool, you became a partime member and then a fulltime member.
You know there is much more in town to worry about then that of a 20 min inconvience. Look into the school your child attends, or the gangs that have moved in on Boyden Ave. This is what you really need to worry about. Leave the pool alone its been this way for as long as I can remember and has not changed much in 36 years. I survived and so did my friends, we werent always happy about it but knew that we could go somewhere and have a good time and be safe. |
Joe R.
Citizen
Username: Ragnatela
Post Number: 533
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 9:24 am: |
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A fitting punctuation mark to close the thread (I hope). |
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